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While I see both sides of the argument, I personally believe we should get the FAST packs in one way or another during or after EA as a low priority item at the very least.

While FAST packs weren't used much outside of the 57th FIS and Elmendorf, it still is listed in the -1 (at least my copy of the 1986 TO 1F-15A-1) along with its basic operation + stores limitations so it should still be possible and on the books for something that could be added to the F-15C that ED is modeling. It certainly wasn't as rare as the F-15Es without CFTs that people were asking for prior to the F-15E's EA release.

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1 hour ago, DSplayer said:

While I see both sides of the argument, I personally believe we should get the FAST packs in one way or another during or after EA as a low priority item at the very least.

While FAST packs weren't used much outside of the 57th FIS and Elmendorf, it still is listed in the -1 (at least my copy of the 1986 TO 1F-15A-1) along with its basic operation + stores limitations so it should still be possible and on the books for something that could be added to the F-15C that ED is modeling. It certainly wasn't as rare as the F-15Es without CFTs that people were asking for prior to the F-15E's EA release.

So ED should create 2 different flight models for an almost non-existent in-game effect (still relatively small map sizes)? I don't think so. Especially as ED has already said "no".

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26 minutes ago, felixx75 said:

So ED should create 2 different flight models for an almost non-existent in-game effect (still relatively small map sizes)?

I'd be ok with just added drag, mass and CG. No need to make new FM around it. The map size has nothing to do with aircraft config but we do already have big maps.

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According to -1 and -34, all F-15C/D's have the ability to use Fast Pack.

Also MER and Mk80 series, CBU are all certified by the manual too.

At last it all comes down to development choice. All the requests are realistic, but are not planned. DCS is just a game, probably featuring the most common things but not minor oddies.

I do want them anyways, considering the Eagle probably charges 80 dollars.

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On 1/28/2025 at 5:19 PM, felixx75 said:

Actually, that's almost laughable. With the F-15E people wanted removable CFT's to improve performance in air combat because it's not an F-15C and now people want CFT's because the F-15C we're getting doesn't have them...
I can only repeat myself, we always want what we don't have or don't get.

Sums it up perfectly. If the E and the upcoming C had two FM each and the CFTs were removable, the threads would be about wanting something else with the same traffic and the same engagement.

People are addicted into watching the neighbors grass 24/7.

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4 hours ago, draconus said:

I'd be ok with just added drag, mass and CG. No need to make new FM around it. The map size has nothing to do with aircraft config but we do already have big maps.

 

It's almost naive to think that a little more drag would be ok, not to mention ED's claim to deliver the most accurate simulations possible (hence my doubts about the F-35). Besides, it's nice that it would be ok for you, but it wouldn't be for me.
But it doesn't matter what anyone thinks is ok or not, ED has already decided.

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17 minutes ago, Czar66 said:

Sums it up perfectly. If the E and the upcoming C had two FM each and the CFTs were removable, the threads would be about wanting something else with the same traffic and the same engagement.

People are addicted into watching the neighbors grass 24/7.

I think most of the drive is simply from the fact that FAST packs are part of the C's equipment. Not getting them is like not getting AIM-120's.

 

I'd like to see them eventually, if not part of the original module then perhaps as additional development later in the life cycle.

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46 minutes ago, Exorcet said:

Not getting them is like not getting AIM-120's

I would say that's complete nonsense, and why didn't anyone demand that for the FC F-15C as an equipment variant, which we've had for years...
But anyway, the answer from ED is “no” and I'm out.

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