TOMCATZ Posted July 19, 2009 Author Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Hi Mitch! That great texture looks:shocking: great! wow... I`m not pretty sure if still fixed it last weekend. So please send me your E-Mail adress so I`ll be able to fresh up the model version. I worked at the fuselage nose and tail sections. At the tail is a difficult section where the missile rails end and the nozzles begins. Sometimes I realized to late that some aircrafts have very complex fuselages. A F-104 Starfighter would be much easyer to build. However, think in this case I pushed my level a little step higher as before... I had (still have) some problems about the look about the fighter course I used many different blueprints and looked over about hundreds of photos. (feel like thousands). I really dont know why I have some little different results about some centremetres. Well, I know that some versions and parts of them (special germans) builded in licence by MBB and some other concerns. All Phantoms in the world got many upgrades just like better avionics and stoff like that. And last I`m not pretty sure if all resolutions about all photos in the web are correct.... "] I had to correct many vertexes arround the canopy, the intakes and the tail section. Special the intakes I have to compare it on more time again. So I go forward step by step to a good looking Phantom... "] I´m not pretty sure about the colour sheme course I can use 2 slots only. Of course I use one for German Luftwaffe. For the second I can see a Greece, Turkish or Iraelian Fighter. Think the Turkish "Terminator2020" can be interesting. I started with "Holloman AirForce Base" corse German fighter pilots started their training there and learn the basic tactics. "] Okay- I have arround 20.000polys right now and I`m pretty sure that it is enough. So there is some reserve for a little damage model, tac. numbers and stoff like that. I realized that some people wondered why I build so quick. I think I didn`t. The real reason is that I stopped smoking:smoke: since 1 month. Before I smoked 2 packages at one day and it become a little bit to expensive for me. And since this time I can`t slep. Mostly I slep two or three hours and them I lay in the bed :suspect:... ****ing cigarretes.. Okay- Sorry for my long story and if it was to boring.. So well, My best wishes, TOM PS: I will not to be the reason for some controverse discussions in here, please. So thanks for all critics, defendings and supporting words. Edited July 19, 2009 by TOMCATZ Born to fly but forced to work.
hitman Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Why do you have to be so offensive? you too? wtf is wrong with some people around here? :huh: even if you think is a model isn't as correct as you'd like it to be, can't you guys at least be a bit more encouraging? someone once said "this community is akin to someone who eats their own kind" they weren't wrong :( I agree 100%. Anything that someone else puts out is a vast improvement over the stock models, lest anyone forget about that. What happened to constructive criticism?? If your 2 yr old kids showed me a drawing and they werent any good at it, how would you like it if I pointed at it and laughed, and called your kid stupid? Some ppl disgust me. 2 golfsierra2 2 shaggy Each person have the right for own opinion and for a freedom of speech, even if this opinion is negative. Is not it democracy? The author should study, study and study You just lost my respect. You of all people should know that this takes time to learn, and mocking the artist isnt constructive at all, but destructive. You should be ashamed. Edited July 19, 2009 by hitman 2 Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
shaggy Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Great work tomcatz! Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
Rambo Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Some ppl disgust me. You just lost my respect. You of all people should know that this takes time to learn, and mocking the artist isnt constructive at all, but destructive. You should be ashamed. :thumbup:
BrumTx Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 keep up the excellent work Tomcatz Remember the 346 Fire Fighters, Medics & Police who died on 9-11....... Selective memory is a wonderful thing, especially when certain posts simply disappear into the ether never to be seen again, unless I have a copy of the original post copied and pasted into word documents and saved .... just in case :) Am I an abusive idiot ? Due to physical incapacity my Wife types my post's for me
monotwix Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Some people simply jump into 3d discussion with disregard to the development. Now when it comes to discussing the 3d which is a technical stuff it appears to be either like a gallery of criticism or appreciation. So we have 2 in 1 and there’s no need to wine about it, it‘s a cool feature. I lay my fingers on modelling now and again and I have some experience doing it and like any thing related: first it gets created and then it goes modified, please believe me… (but to come in and say it’s crap, should you? Should I? I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
Kuky Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Tomcatz, say if you make your 3d model based exactly as shown in some pic that's suposed to be blueprint then accuracy of the model can only be as good (or worse) then the pic you are making it from. In many cases when people have some photo that they call blueprint they actually are not, they are just drawings someone made as the name itself says, blueprint should be blue color paper and all lines/text on it are white of which actual aircraft parts are made ;) Now one thing I can tell you straight off without having to look at any drawing is that your canopy is not correct. Reason is the canopy frame for example can never be at 90° to the fuselage as then the canopy would not be able to be closed, it always has to be at some angle, and on your model it's not. So again, even you make the model exactly as per the drawings, they can only be as good as drawing you are using. Edit: I should make one correction on my comment, angle of the canopy frame actually depends on where the hinge is, if it's on top, like on the F-4 then front of the canopy frame has to be angled forward. Edited July 20, 2009 by Kuky PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
BS01_WinteR Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 hmmm... WinteR | Virtual Smokey Bandits | Virtual Czech MiG-15UTI Solo Display
Mitch Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/f-4_home.htm good place to see details http://www.mitch-janssen.de
Ells228 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Superb model Tom. I have always loved your work bud.
TOMCATZ Posted July 21, 2009 Author Posted July 21, 2009 Hi, ...what can I say... I used a print more:book:: ...but it looks much better now. It`s pretty difficult to make it correct.... "] Hope that Mitch can use it for his great textures. My best wishes, TOM 1 Born to fly but forced to work.
shaggy Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 Looks really good :) Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
Szelma Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 Tomcatz, day after day your Phantom looks better and better... :thumbup:
borchi_2b Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 jup, it looks better now ;-) http://www.polychop-sims.com
Mitch Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 I`m working on a Tamplate for the Bird...... http://www.mitch-janssen.de
Vekkinho Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 Looking great both model and the skin... BTW what's the R on the intakes?! 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
borchi_2b Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 it is the squadsign. the squad is called "Richthoven Geschwader" named in honour of a WW1 fighter Ace of the german air force. the R stands for his name http://www.polychop-sims.com
czarnyolek Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 I gotta backtrack on my own words. I will be replacing stock f-4 model with this one now :)
Szelma Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 I will be replacing stock f-4 model with this one now :) I agree with you Czarnyolek - now stock ED Phantom sucks :megalol: God job Tomcatz :thumbup: We need some U.S Navy skins for your Baby - maby Sundowners ?
Esac_mirmidon Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 I think it is time to appreciate the great work of TOMCATZ once and for all. Not all the post had been very kind with him and his work time ago. Thanks for your efforts mate. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
czarnyolek Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Just look at the number of Yourt post above Esac Are You sure You dont want to send us some twisted information wich is really evil hidden under nice words for Tomcatz? :) 1
Esac_mirmidon Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Yesssss I want to dominate the world trough kind posts full of nice comments ¡¡¡ XDD " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
Vekkinho Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 it is the squadsign. the squad is called "Richthoven Geschwader" named in honour of a WW1 fighter Ace of the german air force. the R stands for his name Thanks Borchi, I knew I heard it somewhere but I wasn't sure if R stands for Richthoven! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
51GRIZZLY Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Better known as the "Red Baron" Manfred von Richthofen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_von_Richthofen
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