reported More Cockpit Language Options

[Badger1-1]

see title

in menu its set to native

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Hello,

As mentioned before in other threads and on YouTube, *language* options should be independent from *units* in my opinion.

With Avionics Language set to Native, Units set to Metric and cockpit in the special options set to English, gauges are calibrated in feet and knots instead of metres and kilometres per hour.
We've had comments from ED staff that there is a way to have metric units in the English cockpit (such as it currently is in for example Mi-24 and Mi-8), but if Native Avionics, Metric Units and English cockpit doesn't do the trick, I'm at a loss as to what does...

[Derbysieger]

This shouldn't be marked as correct as is imho. It should be dependant on the special options tab for the module or dependent on setting the avionics language to native, not dependant on whether my units is set to metric or imperial. Switching the setting every time dependant on the module you want to fly is not a good solution

[Derbysieger]

The unit option in the gameplay options should not influence the units on cockpit instruments as well. This belongs in the special tab for each module, not in the general gameplay settings. 

I don't want to switch to metric every time I step into a russian cockpit and then back to imperial when I'm flying a western aircraft.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Indeed. It may be “working as intended”, but it definitely isn’t “correct as is”.

[szcz13]

So, can it be set it to metric?

[Derbysieger]

Yes, change the units in the gameplay settings to metric.

 

Imho this needs to be changed asap. Binding it to the native avionics option or putting it in the special options tab as a separate option are acceptable solutions to me. The units set in general gameplay options shouldn't effect cockpit instruments of individual modules.

[MickV]

Doesn't work the other way - English cockpit but metric units in gameplay settings leaves the cockpit in Feet/Knots

[MickV]

Wags was asked this exact, specific question re: English cockpit with metric units, and answered that it would be an option.

It would be nice to get clarification if Wags misunderstood the question, and there are no plans for English cockpit/metric units, or if it is something we can expect to be updated in the future.

[Drona]

ED, please have metric units with English cockpit implemented as soon as possible. Thanks.

[YoYo]

6 hours ago, Derbysieger said:

The unit option in the gameplay options should not influence the units on cockpit instruments as well. This belongs in the special tab for each module, not in the general gameplay settings. 

I don't want to switch to metric every time I step into a russian cockpit and then back to imperial when I'm flying a western aircraft.

Good idea. 

[Slice313]

So if I understand correctly, English plus metric is not possible right now?

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

4 hours ago, Derbysieger said:

Yes, change the units in the gameplay settings to metric.

This used to only affect the mission editor and F10 map. 
This change is a huge step in the wrong direction, since as MickV said, it doesn’t work the other way around which feels really weird.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

7 minutes ago, Slice313 said:

So if I understand correctly, English plus metric is not possible right now?

It is not.

[Badger1-1]

Yeah I feel the same, I have it now set to metric, the US jets are still in feet as far as I know but not sure about the other FC3s. Should be connected to native settings in the gameplay tab.

 

Also my english Cockpit now shows NM instead of KM but the rest is Meters and KMH....come on ED

Edited 16 hours ago by Badger1-1

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

5 minutes ago, Badger1-1 said:

Also my english Cockpit now shows NM instead of KM but the rest is Meters and KMH....come on ED

Yes it’s messed up. I made a separate thread about the opposite problem to this one here: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/378967-english-cockpit-with-metric-units/

 

[Fran11player]

Want to point out as well that the altitud warner and the fuel range are yet displayed in feet and NM respectively no matter if you chose imperial or metric. 

Thing to fix.

[gabuzomeu]

Hello, 

there is a number of discussions on the subject. 

As a wish, subject to others suggestion:

- cockpit language , avionics language and displayed unit shall be possible to select separately (ie any combination)

- these choices should be available at the aircraft options level, superseding if need be the choices made for the full game (units).

Obviously, some of it is already available.

And it should be implemented the same way for all the aircraft (eg the Voggen seems to behave differently than the Mig)

Does not seem to be so complex to modifiy the aircarft options menu this way, but, one never knows

[Mainstay]

Agreed

[Dača]

2 hours ago, Fran11player said:

Want to point out as well that the altitud warner and the fuel range are yet displayed in feet and NM respectively no matter if you chose imperial or metric. 

Thing to fix.

You can change this in general measurements option. Switch everything to Russian.

[Fran11player]

hace 53 minutos, Dača dijo:

You can change this in general measurements option. Switch everything to Russian.

Then I guess is a problem with metric system and english cockpit.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I think it's best to keep the default options the way they are for other Russian ED modules, and optionally add a convenience option to have imperial units for those who so desire (I personally find that more immersion breaking than an English cockpit but that's just me).

[Dača]

17 minutes ago, Fran11player said:

Then I guess is a problem with metric system and english cockpit.

Not sure since I use full Russian+metric. Never tried different. You need go convert all measurement settings to native/russian and metric. Then it will work. And full English+ imperial if you want opposite. Mixing tends to create something wierd.

[draconus]

Until the update I had game units set to imperial but when flying soviet birds (except 29G) I still had them in native units and all was fine.

Now I have to change between units depending on which aircraft I fly?

Edited 11 hours ago by draconus

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

2 hours ago, draconus said:

Now I have to change between units depending on which aircraft I fly?

So it seems, until ED gets both feet on the ground again.