Recent Enigma video

[wilbur81]

After Enigma's (insightful at times) "leaked" video last week: I'd just like to say, DCS still has no rival. It will NEVER be bug free (it is WAY too complex and comprehensive), never. Most of the negative comments about DCS underneath his video are absurd to me. The constant comparison to BMS is mind-boggling. If DCS was an F-22, BMS is a Cessna 152 by comparison. The Dynamic Campaign is really very cool, but you're talking about a platform that had one archaic map and one aircraft. Try pulling that off with 50+ high fidelity aircraft, dozens of different maps, with exceptionally high graphic standards, controllable ground vehicles, and wildly compl....oh, wait. ED is ACTUALLY trying to do just that!

My only real criticism has been that they've spread themselves WAY TOO THIN! But I do not fault them for being ambitious. Have they blundered some 3rd party business? Yes, it is impossible to be a business for decades and not burn a bridge now and again. Can they reconcile those differences? Of course. At the end of the day, DCS is the only air combat simulator right now that is cutting/bleeding edge in my book. Period. Dot. 

Keep up the good work, team.

[freehand]

 I have no idea what you are talking about to be honest.

[waterman]

25 minutes ago, wilbur81 said:

It will NEVER be bug free

They have achieved that very well  

Edited September 28 by waterman

[wilbur81]

1 hour ago, freehand said:

 I have no idea what you are talking about to be honest.

That's fine. You'll find it in your YT algorithm eventually.  

[sirrah]

8 hours ago, wilbur81 said:

After Enigma's (insightful at times) "leaked" video last week: I'd just like to say, DCS still has no rival. It will NEVER be bug free (it is WAY too complex and comprehensive), never. Most of the negative comments about DCS underneath his video are absurd to me. The constant comparison to BMS is mind-boggling. If DCS was an F-22, BMS is a Cessna 152 by comparison. The Dynamic Campaign is really very cool, but you're talking about a platform that had one archaic map and one aircraft. Try pulling that off with 50+ high fidelity aircraft, dozens of different maps, with exceptionally high graphic standards, controllable ground vehicles, and wildly compl....oh, wait. ED is ACTUALLY trying to do just that!

My only real criticism has been that they've spread themselves WAY TOO THIN! But I do not fault them for being ambitious. Have they blundered some 3rd party business? Yes, it is impossible to be a business for decades and not burn a bridge now and again. Can they reconcile those differences? Of course. At the end of the day, DCS is the only air combat simulator right now that is cutting/bleeding edge in my book. Period. Dot. 

Keep up the good work, team.

If you're referring to the YT video I'm guessing you are..

Without diving into the actual "discussion", or I'd rather say "reactions" from the community (which for obvious reasons will probably not be allowed on this forum); from what I've observed and without judging, the general consensus in reactions of the community after seeing this leaked video, are definitely not complaints about bugs or comparisons with BMS 

 

But until someone dares to post a link here to said YT video (I don't ) it's unsure if we are talking about the same video.

(My expectations are, that this thread won't have a long life )

Edited September 28 by sirrah

[wilbur81]

6 hours ago, sirrah said:

(My expectations are, that this thread won't have a long life )

This thread doesn't need to be any longer than one single post...my original post. I'm not inviting discussion, I'm planting a flag. 

[Weta43]

It's funny how some people fall obsessively in love with DCS, and then something that was there all along becomes too much for them to bear and causes them to cast it aside - and they become like those people who've divorced their partner, but the anger still dominates their consciousness.

They can't let go, and instead their energy goes into persuading everyone they can that their one-time love is the cause of all the ills in the world.

[MAXsenna]

5 minutes ago, Weta43 said:

and they become like those people who've divorced their partner, but the anger still dominates their consciousness.

The first cut is the deepest.... 

[Aapje]

On 9/28/2025 at 1:42 AM, wilbur81 said:

I'd just like to say, DCS still has no rival. [...] The constant comparison to BMS is mind-boggling.

I would say that this is a big part of the problem. That people are making comparisons to a mod for a 27 year old game, shows how limited the offerings are. If there was a modern alternative to DCS, where that alternative makes different choices, then people who don't like the choices that ED makes, would have an alternative.

In general, I think that having that alternative would be very healthy in a lot of different ways (for players, third party developers, but also for ED).

 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

You don't have to like Apple to use an iPhone. You don't have to like ED to enjoy DCS the way you want to, be it as a digital museum or something else.

[wilbur81]

8 hours ago, Aapje said:

I would say that this is a big part of the problem. That people are making comparisons to a mod for a 27 year old game, shows how limited the offerings are. If there was a modern alternative to DCS, where that alternative makes different choices, then people who don't like the choices that ED makes, would have an alternative.

In general, I think that having that alternative would be very healthy in a lot of different ways (for players, third party developers, but also for ED).

 

There is no question, for me especially, that DCS is painfully lacking in the Dynamic Campaign/immersion arena. But it will come. I'm just pointing out that it is a taller order (within the extremely diverse DCS ecosystem) than a lot of folks give it credit. BMS had almost nothing to do by comparison... but it did that feature extremely well, no doubt about it. 

Edited September 29 by wilbur81

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

16 hours ago, Weta43 said:

It's funny how some people fall obsessively in love with DCS, and then something that was there all along becomes too much for them to bear and causes them to cast it aside - and they become like those people who've divorced their partner, but the anger still dominates their consciousness.

They can't let go, and instead their energy goes into persuading everyone they can that their one-time love is the cause of all the ills in the world.

It really is. One party is completely at fault, one is the poor innocent victim, and they can't be convinced otherwise. 

There's nothing more pathetic than middle aged men playing pretend journalist in regards to a niche video game. If it vexed me so much, I'd just quit and not think about it anymore.

[NineLine]

Sorry guys, I see this is gonna start drifting off. I dont want to see 1.15s and 1.2s, so just gonna clip this one here.

[PeaceDog]

About our beloved sim, seems to reveal a distinct lack of game design on behalf of ED. This is perhaps obvious but is there any discussion around this topic? Why not allow the community to build the 'game part' of this sim? As much as i love DCS i find that my experience on it today is much the same as it has always been going way back to lomac. Pretty disheartening.

 

Regards

[Beirut]

9 hours ago, PeaceDog said:

 . . . I find that my experience on it today is much the same as it has always been going way back to lomac. 

 

Me too. My experience is that I still enjoy flying all the cool planes.

 

And this thread eats a GBU in 5.... 4.... 3.... 

[Silver_Dragon]

10 hours ago, PeaceDog said:

About our beloved sim, seems to reveal a distinct lack of game design on behalf of ED. This is perhaps obvious but is there any discussion around this topic? Why not allow the community to build the 'game part' of this sim? As much as i love DCS i find that my experience on it today is much the same as it has always been going way back to lomac. Pretty disheartening.

 

Regards

Lack of game desight about? Actual DCS World has very improved compared with LOMAC/FC, and ED has working about milestones from some years ago. And about the "Game Part", DCS has more centred on realism, compared with other titles more centred on "fantasy".

Also, it seems like the great work of the community and 3rd parties is being forgotten... on purpose by that person.

And please, let's stop naming influencers, who are just another more. They only want to stir up controversy to get views, when their content is designed to stir up controversy, not to help.

Edited 16 hours ago by Silver_Dragon

[Tom Kazansky]

9 hours ago, PeaceDog said:

Why not allow the community to build the 'game part' of this sim?

I've read this sentence more than twice and still not get it. There are many great campaigns, still growing in number, and LOTS of user made missions. Am I missing the point?

[motoadve]

He only want to stir up controversy to get views, I don't even watch his videos anymore, find them pretty annoying.