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ok, before i get flamed for not using search, im making this thread, because when i do search, all i keep getting is a list of possible next DCS modules, NOT actually being developed module..

 

SO MY QUESTION IS..

WHAT IS MOST LIKELY THE NEXT DCS MODULE that is in development, which will be slated after A-10C?

 

before the Ka-50 release, it was stated that the AH64A was after the Ka50, which later changed to the A-10A, to the A-10C.

 

i have seen AH-64A cockpit models, and they have mention AH64A was more or less unclassified? i mean what aircraft is there that info is available for a high fidelity sim, and again, i am just wondering what is the next module being develop in which DCS has info, etc to make the next module possible..

 

i have the feeling im going to get the inevitable, "when they announce, that is what it will be".

 

would be great if it was AH-64A wich dual pilot copilot gunner operation

F-16.. classified or not? on top of F-18, F15, etc.. so lets be real..

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Yep, you're getting the inevitable.

 

A-10C isn't even out yet ... focus now is on A-10C.

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The last I saw on this subject from Wags is that ED have no idea at present what aircraft will feature in the next module. My opinion is that once A-10C released and any compatibility patch that may be needed for Blackshark, and perhaps FC2, is completed ED will focus their efforts on the next module.

 

In short, I don't think we'll hear anything on this subject until next year.

 

 

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Even if it is in production we probably won't hear anything about it until well after the A10C. No point saying one thing then having to backtrack if things change. Me? I just can't wait for the hog startup producer notes.....mmmm switchology ;).

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The sounds of those turbo fans coming to life will bring me much joy....much joy indeed. Canopy will be up for startup just to make sure I don't miss a beat! ;)

 

I just love the navada terrain for training, I think that's brilliant for the dcs guys tl feature in game.

 

I'm dying to throw her into a spin as well, curious to know how the hog spins. Learning to fly this thing is going to be faneffingtastic. Sorry off topic, just hard for me to see beyond the A10C right now.

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Now that A-10C is being made to such high standards (A-10C Desk Top Simulator for Air National Guard), must the next DCS instalment match it? Will we have to wait for Eagle Dynamics to make another professional military simulator first?

 

Air National Guard also operates F-15C, F-16C/D (and apparently even F-16E/F, Tucson International Airport, Arizona, for training United Arab Emirates pilots) and... F-22A (Langley Air Force Base, Virginia) and B2 (Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri).

 

Hint, hint, nudge, nudge... :music_whistling:

 

Seriously, can the DCS make another aircraft simulation without military contract, if they want to adhere to such high standards? How did they obtain info for the Ka-50?

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Well, I think DCS: A-10C will also have some components of A-10C Desk Top Simulator for Air National Guard removed or changed, due to their classified nature. I understand that, and I don't assume that after playing DCS Ka-50 or A-10C I could just jump into the aircraft and hijack it.

 

What I'm wondering is, could the next DCS module be made without inside military information? Outside information (books, articles, declassified manuals) is often very sparse, and up until now we have been content with the "guesswork" of game developers. I would love to see a multirole aircraft in DCS suite, either F/A-18 or F-16. So many things to do...

 

But to think that insanely realistic A-10C simulation with all the new avionics and weapons will be available this year... Can't wait!!! Ctrl-Y, Ctrl-Y, Ctrl-Y!

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Seriously, can the DCS make another aircraft simulation without military contract, if they want to adhere to such high standards? How did they obtain info for the Ka-50?

 

Probably not! Unless ED has a connection to "someone" that will give all the required info for free...

 

ED obtained Ka-50 info from a military contract and is said that ED has very good relations with Kamov.

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Contract with Kamov for pilot training software.

 

Maybe I forgot details, but why have Russians ordered Ka-50 software training if they have only dozen ka-50s and they prefer Mi-28N with Ka-52? Shouldn't be it eee hmmm "smarter" to get simulator for future national chopper than this one which is only past and is not good to do task more complicated than killing Chechen huts ?

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Maybe I forgot details, but why have Russians ordered Ka-50 software training if they have only dozen ka-50s and they prefer Mi-28N with Ka-52? Shouldn't be it eee hmmm "smarter" to get simulator for future national chopper than this one which is only past and is not good to do task more complicated than killing Chechen huts ?

 

Maybe the task of killing Chechen Huts is in higher demand then we could guess?

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Because it costs less money to do mission training in a flight sim than it does to actually fly the helicopters. This way the pilots can remain in top shape in terms of being mission qualified without increasing their flight time in the helicopter.

It also helps when you set up terrain you'll be flying over for familiarization without having to fly there.

And just because they got a Ka-50 simulator doesn't mean they haven't got one for the other helis.

 

Maybe I forgot details, but why have Russians ordered Ka-50 software training if they have only dozen ka-50s and they prefer Mi-28N with Ka-52? Shouldn't be it eee hmmm "smarter" to get simulator for future national chopper than this one which is only past and is not good to do task more complicated than killing Chechen huts ?

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Maybe I forgot details, but why have Russians ordered Ka-50 software training if they have only dozen ka-50s and they prefer Mi-28N with Ka-52? Shouldn't be it eee hmmm "smarter" to get simulator for future national chopper than this one which is only past and is not good to do task more complicated than killing Chechen huts ?

 

...and who said that "hut hunting" isn't important? Probably Russia plans to use Ka-50 instead of letting it rot!

 

You see more and more "asymmetric warfare" in recent days. Ka-50, as it is, may see action again an again, it isn't decommissioned yet. "Older" equipment may not be so good at a modern full scale war but in asymmetric warfare technology alone won't make you prevail(see A-stan war). Today you see more use of the cannon instead of sophisticated Hellfires, you 'll see more use of a retro-fashion helis, like Ka-50, rather than state of the art F-22 or F-16CJ.

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Talking about the A10C, it brings quite some changes and additions apparently.

 

Which i like, though i am curious if the multitasking of DCS is being worked on as well?

I think it could be quite a nice performance improvement if things like the Skhval/abris/mfd's would run in a separate thread like the sound engine does??

 

(have there been any release notes published yet? if yes where to find them)

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