ED's planned price policy

[Maximus_G]

I thought pre-purchase price is bigger (50% bigger than that of Ka-50) because it's a special offer for those who don't want to wait. So they can pay.

And that seems to me to be fair and wise.

Edited October 8, 2010 by Maximus_G

[Cyb0rg]

We say it's expensive and all but in the end we all pay. We pay and pray for the next release.. :smilewink:

:pilotfly:

[Renato71]

Here I can buy 30 pints in pub and about 50 pints in store for a price of Warthog. :D

 

I'm past beer. I calculate in bread loafs, liters of milk, and baby diapers now. For last 7 months I've spent more time changing this last item, then playing any sim. Expected to do so in future.

 

I'm glad for people that are happy with anything about WH, but sorry, not interested in A-10, same old map (for 10 years), cannot afford new hardware... No go.

 

I rather play and pay something else. Like, lately, I'm having more fun playing Tanks Online then FC2. No install, no pay, playing in 10 sec after starting up. What a contrast...

Not to mention that I'm so non-excited when I get shot down in FC2 (for any reason), while I can curse like pirate in TO - just like I did few years back in FC1.

 

If I could spend 60 USD on sim, I would rather pay for a 2-seat helicopter, or a sim with many aircraft to choose from. I pray that Falklands war will be finished by the time I can stop buying diapers, and before I have to start buying school books.

 

60 USD is to much for something that already existed.

If each DCS module is going to cost that much, then finally I will be able to save money for a new car tires.

 

 

@Mower - still waiting for your PM...

[sungsam]

Just my opinion:

 

You people that assume A10C expensive, must be kidding. :)

 

Think about StarCraft II what more it has ? What it really gives you ? it's more expensive, and simultanusly more easy to develop !

Edited October 8, 2010 by sungsam

[SimFreak]

If I go to a shooting range, I can spend that amount in few hours.

A visit to a pub with friends....

A dinner in Japanese restaurant...

Single night and money is gone, but A10 will remain for many nights :D Well worth the admission.

[Chris CDN]

I'd easily pay twice the price for DCS: A-10C. That being said, I'm likely spending the $500 for the TM Warthog HOTAS and a few grand on a shiny new rig to run the sim at max. Thus, after spending $2,500 on hardware the $60 is largely an afterthought. Vote with your money though, if you're not interested in it...don't buy it. I for one will be lining up for the next module cash in hand.

[polomeister]

From a commercial point of view, I think ED made a mistake making BS so cheap. For a specialist piece of software, could easily charge $100 & would still get most of the uptake

[distant]

As for pre order beta version, normally it is at a discount price tag to encourage users to put up the fund for an unfinished product. I wonder this is what ED is doing and would be surprised if the final box version will be cheaper.

[Boberro]

Usually it is better to sell 100 pieces of cake for $1 than 60 for $1.4 ;]

[Renato71]

So many people claim that they will be happy to pay more, yet no one is offering to buy it for other people....

 

Are just bragging about your income or truly appreciating the product?

[Renato71]

Usually it is better to sell 100 pieces of cake for $1 than 60 for $1.4 ;]

 

Hmmmm... that smells like capitalism.

Your criticism of monopoly is dully noted.

:music_whistling:

[Distiler]

I bet if you lower the price for China you'll end getting more money (and more players). Same for other countries with stalling wages (from an already low wages by all standards). Specially when we talk about digital products (copy, storage and distribution costs near zero), I can't see why ED doesen't want to sell it to everyone and their mother (adjusting prices to country realities).

 

But I'm not in the business and it's just an uneducated hypothesis.

 

Gabe Newell (Steam) about this http://www.next-gen.biz/features/valve-are-games-too-expensive

Edited October 8, 2010 by Distiler

[leafer]

Is 60 bucks really is too much for a sim of this caliber when the Sims 3 add-on cost 39.95? If so then you just don't get it because you're either not a fan of the genre or ED. if you're just starting out and this is a sticker shock then let me explain...

 

Most people here think 60 bucks is fair and the reason is we're passionate about our hobby. I don't know but perhaps in this genre we're not just customers but are also contributors to a great cause as well. At least we like to think so. The joke is that simmers are a bunch of zealous overgrown children and it's probably is true, but when duty calls I think we're the most linient, generous and caring bunch. Group hug all around...

 

Here's something to ponder...

 

Steel Best Pro PE costs 200 bucks and it isn't even in the same league as DCS: Black Shark. A flight sim called Back to Baghdad cost 100 bucks in mid 90s.

[BoneDust]

Is 60 bucks really is too much for a sim of this caliber

 

Not at all. My issue is the same product being sold for less depending on your country. I can understand price variances when you have a physical product to ship, but not digital software.

[BoneDust]

So many people claim that they will be happy to pay more, yet no one is offering to buy it for other people....

 

Are just bragging about your income or truly appreciating the product?

 

Seriously dude, since when have you ever seen that type of generosity particularily in 2010 with the me me me mine mine mine generation...:lol:

 

Prove to me you can't afford it and I "might" buy you a copy, but you've got to convince me and your reasons need to be acceptable to me. :)

 

So don't start by saying I really want this sim, or my grandmother needs a new hip :smartass:

[leafer]

I can't afford a set of HOTAS. Please, I need a set of HOTAS...

[leafer]

Seriously dude, since when have you ever seen that type of generosity particularily in 2010 with the me me me mine mine mine generation...:lol:

 

 

Eh-hem...

 

I actually sent my unused set of CH stick and Pro Throttle (can't recall if I sent Rudder as well) to a Russian fella during the Flanker 2 days. I can't recall how or what he had written but I believed he really couldn't afford it and did what I did. Stupid me had forgotten to mark it as gift and he emailed me saying the import tax was too expensive and he had asked the post office to send them back to me. He told me he was going to join the military and few months later he emailed me some pics of him in the military. I felt like shit because he seemed like a decent person.

 

I wonder if he's still around.

 

EDIT: Several forum members here had sent me Flaming Cliffs and Black Shark during my broke-ass-moutain stint. One of them is banned and one is an active mod here.

 

Oh. Around the same time I got the Black Shark CD, another mod PMed me saying he maybe able to help me with the lack of joystick situation. We've got great people here, people!

Edited October 8, 2010 by leafer

[Renato71]

EDIT:

Nevermind

Edited October 8, 2010 by Renato71

[Grimes]

 

Think about StarCraft II what more it has ? What it really gives you ? it's more expensive, and simultanusly more easy to develop !

 

Your statement is flawed at so many levels. So it looks like I get to be the devils advocate for all the other genre's of gaming.... again!

Think about StarCraft II what more it has ? What it really gives you ?

You know, they aren't quite the same type of game, but they do share stuff in common. I'm not going to list the DOZENs of features that SC2 has that are not present within DCS. So let me compare just two areas that are actually shared between SC2 and ED flight sims.

 

1. A world editor that is not simply just a sandbox of a pre-built world, but you can create your own maps and modify several unit properties to drastically change the game you are playing. People have developed countless tower defense games, First (Third) person shooters, rpgs, racing games, and even recreated "RISK" using the SC2 world editor. Lockon/DCS gives you pre-built maps where you just place units. Extra triggers can add depth and variety, but in terms of "making the game play differently" it took 400+ triggers just to create a "King of the Hill" gamemode and even then it was the same game.

 

2. Story telling and everything related. Flight Sims have terrible stories, its practically a requirement within the genre. Also the story telling process is generally lacking. OOOoooohhh a bunch of text in a briefing with some pictures and some audio in the mission itself. You feel incredibly detached from the world within an ED flight sim. When you think about it, there is more story structure in the machinima created by Glowing Amramm or Ruggbutt. I'm not knocking them, I'm just saying that when you put music with expertly edited video you do get a sense of "story" out of it, so much so that it is actually greater than the sense of story found within the game itself. As for story and cinematics in SC2 (or any Blizzard game)... well to compare them to Pixar is not an understatement.

 

it's more expensive, and simultanusly more easy to develop !

 

I reckon it was more expensive to develop because Blizzard has at least 40 times the number of employees to pay than ED does, plus it was in development since 2003. As for difficulty to develop, I wish I worked at blizzard so I could tell you, but I don't, so I'll just take a guess. If making a sequel to one of the most successful and beloved RTS games ever created is an "easy" task, the game would have been out a LOOONG time ago. There is nothing more difficult in creating something than being incredibly successful the first time and then having to live up to the expectations for each subsequent product because of that initial success.

 

There I'm done.

[JG27_Arklight]

I'm past beer. I calculate in bread loafs, liters of milk, and baby diapers now. For last 7 months I've spent more time changing this last item, then playing any sim. Expected to do so in future.

 

Ditto!

[BoneDust]

EDIT:

Nevermind

 

Your post came through anyway bud. My intention was not to insult you.

 

I offered to buy you a copy and joked around a little, but you know what, there's so many people with hostile attitudes today why try to help. Regrettably, your reply was a little hostile to someone who offered to buy you a copy.

 

Forget it. :mad:

[rweaves6]

Seriously dude, since when have you ever seen that type of generosity particularily in 2010 with the me me me mine mine mine generation...:lol:

 

Prove to me you can't afford it and I "might" buy you a copy, but you've got to convince me and your reasons need to be acceptable to me. :)

 

So don't start by saying I really want this sim, or my grandmother needs a new hip :smartass:

 

 

You must be a Toronto Maple Leafs fan to do something that dumb :D

 

(BTW I didn't mean the gesture was dumb. Getting "sucked-in" and arguing with the guy was kinda dumb...:music_whistling:)

[BoneDust]

You must be a Toronto Maple Leafs fan to do something that dumb :D

 

(BTW I didn't mean the gesture was dumb. Getting "sucked-in" and arguing with the guy was kinda dumb...:music_whistling:)

 

Can't disagree dude. :doh:

[metalnwood]

I find the whole thread hard to believe really. You can pay near that for FSX additions like aircraft or scenery.

 

IMO if your only argument is that it's not worth it to you or you can't afford it then just don't buy it and stop telling people who do think it's worth it that it is not.

 

If you would rather buy starcraft there are no doubt starcraft forums for you.

 

If you wan't me to buy you a free copy, no free lunch here I am afraid, I am too busy saving for other things I also think are worthwhile.

[JG27_Arklight]

I find the whole thread hard to believe really. You can pay near that for FSX additions like aircraft or scenery.

 

IMO if your only argument is that it's not worth it to you or you can't afford it then just don't buy it and stop telling people who do think it's worth it that it is not.

 

If you would rather buy starcraft there are no doubt starcraft forums for you.

 

If you wan't me to buy you a free copy, no free lunch here I am afraid, I am too busy saving for other things I also think are worthwhile.

 

You can actually pay more for FSX add-ons. lol