Lonecrow66 Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Something very natural feeling, comfy and sturdy. I had CH's rudder pedals a long time ago they did the job. But it was mainly just one thing you could do. I'd love to find one that you could have heel and toe rudders for wheel brakes etc. Are there any out there that are like affordable and USB based? I've got the Saitek X52 and the twisting rudder mechanism just don't cut it.. --- May your takeoffs equal your landings!
Konovalov Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 I have the Saitek Pro pedals and they are pretty sturdy and IMO good value for money. :) Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
effte Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 I have a hard time imagining anything which could beat the Saiteks. Yes, there are better pedals out there, but they tend to cost three times as much. And the Saiteks do get the job done. I just wish they had stiffer springs, but I can live with that. ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
aaron886 Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Don't want to be "that guy," but they're "pedals," not "rudders." That's like saying, "I plussed 8 and 3," instead of, "I added 8 and 3." I've done this so much lately, maybe I am "that guy..." 1
Lonecrow66 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 I have the Saitek Pro pedals and they are pretty sturdy and IMO good value for money. :) they looks real nice but after taxes and shipping and all that it'll be over $200!! I just bought a trackIR .. that set me back! --- May your takeoffs equal your landings!
S77th-konkussion Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 CH's have toe brake axis- and are very sturdy. The main complaint would be that they are not very well spaced. I don't guess they look like military pedals but they sure do work.. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Succellus Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Unfortunatly there s not many players. Saitek Simped CH Very old gameport based which are a problem but better than CH TM rudders that you will only find on E-bay and probably will need some refurbish. I think the best would be TM RCS + Hall sensors but its have too many "IFs" Tm really blew it not launching RCS USB, they gave the market to the opfor. My Saiteks Pro are on the mail i ll get them tomorrow i choosed them upon testimonials and sex appeal and price, cant speak more than that about them. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Headspace Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Who was it here that made rudder pedals out of two pieces of wood, a belt, and some other parts for $15?
slowhand Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 :megalol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] SMOKE'M:smoke: IF YA GOT'M!:gun_rifle: H2o Cooler I7 9700k GA 390x MB Win 10 pro Evga RTX 2070 8Gig DD5 32 Gig Corsair Vengence, 2T SSD. TM.Warthog:joystick: :punk:, CV-1:matrix:,3x23" monitors, Tm MFD's, Saitek pro rudders wrapped up in 2 sheets of plywood:megalol:
Slammin Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Unfortunatly there s not many players. Saitek Simped CH Very old gameport based which are a problem but better than CH TM rudders that you will only find on E-bay and probably will need some refurbish. I think the best would be TM RCS + Hall sensors but its have too many "IFs" Tm really blew it not launching RCS USB, they gave the market to the opfor. My Saiteks Pro are on the mail i ll get them tomorrow i choosed them upon testimonials and sex appeal and price, cant speak more than that about them. Sure, you'll get them tomorrow. Just like you already said you already had them two weeks ago. And that had me perplexed since you indicated so many Customs problems yet you got them at the same time a USA person got them, but whatever. Just like you said you already got your Hog several weeks ago, but recanted and said it was still stuck in Customs recently, hence your inability to recently identify a USB tag on the cable (which does not exist on mine, btw), probably a photoshopped pic, but you acted like you were familiar with it.. Do you have a Hog or the Saitek peddles? Have you even purchased either? Do you even have a PC? I could post what you post with just my cell phone - if I were so bored. All done. As you were. Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
Renato71 Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Most cost effective rudders? The home build versions. I'm selling MiG-21 activation key. Also selling Suncom F-15E Talon HOTAS with MIDI connectors, several sets. Contact via PM.
WarriorX Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 IMHO the "most cost effective" rudders are the ones that are built to last, with quality components and are ergonomic. The price is a variable that is spread over the lifetime of the device's use, so if the rudder pedals last you say 6-8 years the initial cost takes a different perspective. There is a saying, "purchase quality once, or cheap over and over". 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial
effte Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 There is a saying, "purchase quality once, or cheap over and over". Then again, those who purchased quality a few years ago are now sitting with gameport pedals, frequently without toe brakes, and no effective way to hook them up. Of course, game ports were different, no surprise they went out of style. USB will be around forever, never to be replaced by anything better. And noone will ever need more than 640k of RAM... :megalol: ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
Bucic Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Who was it here that made rudder pedals out of two pieces of wood, a belt, and some other parts for $15? Me for example :smilewink: Hall effect sensor powered! :D F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Succellus Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Sure, you'll get them tomorrow. Just like you already said you already had them two weeks ago. And that had me perplexed since you indicated so many Customs problems yet you got them at the same time a USA person got them, but whatever. Just like you said you already got your Hog several weeks ago, but recanted and said it was still stuck in Customs recently, hence your inability to recently identify a USB tag on the cable (which does not exist on mine, btw), probably a photoshopped pic, but you acted like you were familiar with it.. Do you have a Hog or the Saitek peddles? Have you even purchased either? Do you even have a PC? I could post what you post with just my cell phone - if I were so bored. All done. As you were. As you well said is hard to identify something that doesn t exist. Is sad your anger make yourself such a sad person. Somebody need a hug...But don t worry, i m not the one to deliver it to you, i hope this new bring some happiness to you. Edited February 9, 2011 by Succellus HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Succellus Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Me for example :smilewink: Hall effect sensor powered! :D That would be the best way assuming you know hot to or have the pacience to. But i think the OP was talking about ready to plug and pray.;) HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Feed Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 That would be the best way assuming you know hot to or have the pacience to. But i think the OP was talking about ready to plug and pray.;) OP also balked at a $200 price tag ... You can bolt a few pieces of wood together with a pot or hall sensor hooked up to the PCB of a USB gamepad and have operational rudder pedals for under $20. Assuming rudimentary woodworking skills, they're not likely to look (or feel) great. http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/08/diy-rudder-pedals-on-the-cheap.html# If you want something ready to plug in for less than $100, you'd better start watching eBay for a good deal. The CH pedals are really the cheapest contenders (unused), AFAIK.
Bucic Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 You can bolt a few pieces of wood together with a pot or hall sensor hooked up to the PCB of a USB gamepad... Don't. Gamepads may have a "hard coded" wide dead zone on every axis :joystick: F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Succellus Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 OP also balked at a $200 price tag ... http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/08/diy-rudder-pedals-on-the-cheap.html# LOL !! AWESOME!!!:thumbup: but you need to thinker some more if you want toe brakes.:book: HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Sokol1_br Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I think the best would be TM RCS + Hall sensors but its have too many "IFs"Well, Simped already have HALL sensor and your USB circuit allow response curves adjust (linear, exponential, logarithmic ), some models include toe brakes, you center system spring (similar to one used motorcicle gear pedal, and in Saitek, WKB pedals...) is more logical than one used in RCS, with torsion spring, that tend do break over time. Simped is made in sturdy plastic (similar do CH products) - RCS is aluminum frames and plastic pads. So, what RCS have more? Sokol1_Br
Feed Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 OP asked about most cost-effective rudders, and the point is that it comes down to how much you're willing to spend for what sort of capability. If all you're looking for is a way to work the rudders for as little as possible, then spend $20 and some time hacking together your own set. On the opposite end of the spectrum are probably the top-end Simpeds, built to last with a USB interface and integrated toe-brakes. As I understand it, they're great - but they'll cost you.
Succellus Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Well, Simped already have HALL sensor and your USB circuit allow response curves adjust (linear, exponential, logarithmic ), some models include toe brakes, you center system spring (similar to one used motorcicle gear pedal, and in Saitek, WKB pedals...) is more logical than one used in RCS, with torsion spring, that tend do break over time. Simped is made in sturdy plastic (similar do CH products) - RCS is aluminum frames and plastic pads. So, what RCS have more? Sokol1_Br The same for TM RCS hall sensed by cubby, but they are gameport and you only will find them from time to time on E-bay, you won t know their quality so the "IF". Simped is the more secure, optimal non cheap option. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
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