Any news on producing 1.2?

169th_Moose · July 7, 2005

Any advancement on 1.2 with the Ka50? Are we, ever going to see that day?

I know patience is vertue.

Any news in its production would be greatly appreciated, if possible of course...

VMFA-Blaze · July 7, 2005

Honestly, I don't think that were going to see any information on this untill they're ready to release it....

As it stands Ed still has a patch to deliver on 1.1 .....

But because of the way the community acts regarding any advanced notice I dought if there will be any...

And if you want proof of how the sim community acts just check out Frugels forum tonight, it seems that the news is that the new Falcon release is not going to allow any community mods, and the guys are absolutley livid ......

~S~

Blaze

Dmut · July 7, 2005

I can't say much about it... but:

1) it's in development, and of course we are going to see _that_ day :)

2) it will be very realistic, even more hardcore then Su-25T. They contacted with Ka-50 pilots and you wouldn't believe how many technical details are discussed last month. I'm afraid that even most hardcore simmers will have to use some arcade options to skip away all that ramp-start mess.

3) all 6 axis of head movement in cockpit are already introduced

4) true collimation HUD are announced

5) _clickable_ cockpit mentioned, but not officially featured.

can't remember every new features mentioned, but those above are enought to threat new add-on as "kick-arse" product :)

ZoomBoy27 · July 7, 2005

The inaccurate semi-true scuttle-butt is that the Ka-50 has had it's art done and the flight model is roughed out at least. But for the Environment, they are going to have to upgrade a lot of the ground stuff - including some infantry(1 bit seen in the Real weapons Mod(Grenader)). Xmas is a good date for its release but so is any other time between now and the beginning of next year. Some sort of French plane(Mirage) is being evaluated for possible addition but only as an AI non-flyable. There's been no official discussion of a dedicated server or any fancy schmancy extra bit.

In the short term, there is a 95% probability ED is working on a large patch to cover a lot of issues - but no one will confirm, deny, or deign to answer. The 1st noise had it coming out in June, but now it should be the classic "when it's done". It should be like the 1.02 was: a patch to get as much covered as possible. Check the Bugs forum to see the issues that have been brouht up and are likely to be evaluated for inclusion.

None of the above is essentially wrong or essentially true. My feeling is they might add extra system/bits to 1.20 but they'd have to be tested 1st before a peep comes out of anyone.

juan_mol · July 7, 2005

I can't say much about it... but:
1) it's in development, and of course we are going to see _that_ day :)
2) it will be very realistic, even more hardcore then Su-25T. They contacted with Ka-50 pilots and you wouldn't believe how many technical details are discussed last month. I'm afraid that even most hardcore simmers will have to use some arcade options to skip away all that ramp-start mess.
3) all 6 axis of head movement in cockpit are already introduced
4) true collimation HUD are announced
5) _clickable_ cockpit mentioned, but not officially featured.
can't remember every new features mentioned, but those above are enought to threat new add-on as "kick-arse" product :)

WOW!!! :D

I can't believe it. ED will be my heroes if they pull this off (specially the clickable cockpit part). Maybe the Ka-50 can snatch the crown from Longbow 2 ;)

King_Hrothgar · July 7, 2005

I hope they take into consideration current PC's. Mine is mid grade but I am lucky to get 20fps in the Su-25T at low level at truely minimal detail. With the TV/LLTV on I get about 10fps. I get 40+ fps in all other planes but the Su-25T and to a lesser extent the old Su-25 bring it to its knees. Hopefully they will make the Ka-50 work better. Reducing view range would help. It won't go anywhere in a hurry so I don't need to be able to see beyond 30km. Now yeah I am aware that I can reduce the visibility in the mission builder but I've found that has zero effect on performance.

In any case assuming mid grade PC's can give acceptable fps (>25fps) then I look forward to the Ka-50. It's been the one chopper I've always wanted in a flight sim and never gotten. It will be so nice to be able to use an AT missle and still keep my distance rather than being forced to fly almost straight over my very pissed off victims.

Pilotasso · July 7, 2005

They will have consideration for your PC, but they will also considerate the ability to turn on extra detail on future more potent PC's. ;)

Lets be patient. We got 1.1 even now and as I see it it could be up to a year to get 1.2 . Dont expect predicted dates of this fall to come true, so you wont be disapointed.

Right now I want the 1.1 patch more urgently than 1.2 so I can enjoy my fav plane as it should be. :D

kam · July 7, 2005

2) it will be very realistic, even more hardcore then Su-25T. They contacted with Ka-50 pilots and you wouldn't believe how many technical details are discussed last month. I'm afraid that even most hardcore simmers will have to use some arcade options to skip away all that ramp-start mess.

:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :cool:

I can't wait!!! :D

Dmut · July 7, 2005

me too :D

btw, about upcoming patch for FC - besides of fixes, you will see many A-A and A-G weapons in a brand new shape and colour :)

most of new weapons modells were created by 3rd-party enthusiasts.

Galaad · July 7, 2005

Great news for the ka50, but actually for lomac it is important to increase replayability, immersion, and war ( mini conflict) environnement.

oh ....and realistic navigationnal system.

Any news for that ?

VapoR · July 7, 2005

4) true collimation HUD are announced

What does this mean??

Olgerd · July 7, 2005

What does this mean??

Floating HUD picture - you are moving your head, the HUD picture moves as it is focused in infinity (actually at 25-30 meters). ;)

VapoR · July 7, 2005

VERY NICE!! That is impressive Olgerd!! ED never ceases to amaze . . .

DarkSoul · July 7, 2005

:) cool!! 1.2 seems to be great "addon" for lomac :)

i cant wait to get it :p

ACUTech · July 7, 2005

WOW how great is this? Can`t wait!

Witchking · July 7, 2005

when can I preorder ? :p

ED have already made me keep the 1.2 money aside. :D

SuperKungFu · July 7, 2005

btw, about upcoming patch for FC - besides of fixes, you will see many A-A and A-G weapons in a brand new shape and colour
most of new weapons modells were created by 3rd-party enthusiasts.

Besides the new AA and AG weapons, any news on new modeled planes? Hopefully someone could remake the Su-27/33, and the F-15 Please? Those three fighter jets are the backbone of the game. Well...Sortof...just saying that to convince someone in ED to make one :p

SUBS17 · July 7, 2005

Floating HUD picture - you are moving your head, the HUD picture moves as it is focused in infinity (actually at 25-30 meters). ;)

Yet again you'll be making history, no one has ever modeled colimation for a flightsim.

SUBS17 · July 7, 2005

There is one aspect of lockon that must be addressed for 1.2. Your stock sound pack features piston engined helicopter sounds off MASH. The Ka50 has a twin turboshaft powerplant, theres a significant difference. Maybe you guys should get zzzspace to visit a Ka50 SQN and get some better Ka50 sounds.

AndyHill · July 7, 2005

I'm just wondering if a true collimation HUD focused at 25-30 meters will work properly for weapons aiming?

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Lock on MUST have toe brake functionality with differential braking

Olgerd · July 7, 2005

Yet again you'll be making history, no one has ever modeled colimation for a flightsim.

F-15E (don't remember wich one - Janes or Microprose) had some very limited implementation. Il-2 has it now. ;)

The new feature will be the implementation of indication visibility limits, it is an circle projected on the angled HUD glass (two glasses on some HUDs). The symbols are visible only inside the circle projection as you are moving the head.

Olgerd · July 8, 2005

I'm just wondering if a true collimation HUD focused at 25-30 meters will work properly for weapons aiming?

It is common way of implementation of collimated picture.

It gives very little errors and only at a sides of HUD picture. I think it is about 1-3 mils in a worst case. Even projection nonlinearity could give equal or more error (in my vision).

Olgerd · July 8, 2005

There is one aspect of lockon that must be addressed for 1.2. Your stock sound pack features piston engined helicopter sounds off MASH. The Ka50 has a twin turboshaft powerplant, theres a significant difference. Maybe you guys should get zzzspace to visit a Ka50 SQN and get some better Ka50 sounds.

We are trying to get them. ;)

Witchking · July 8, 2005

do we get functional ground crew ?

do we also get new 3d models for the well deserved darling sukkhoi flanker family ? :p

*fingerscrossed*

Cobra360 · July 8, 2005

The Flankers are the true stars of the series. It's like time moved on and forgot them.

The MiG-29 3d model, I think is excellent. It was the best till the Su-25T came along.

If the Flanker family could be brought up to a similar standard as the MiG-29 model, well it would be sweet.

I think ground crew are a long way off. One game stands out, F/A-18 Superhornet. The carrier deck crew giving you hand signals as you taxied to the catapult for launch were great. It gave the game extra immersion.

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