Flaming Cliffs 3

[Dudikoff]

You'd actually be surprised in the case of EVE, that most of the people that play are actually very similar in personality tho those that fly in sims. I suspect the main reason is that EVE requires you to use your brain in order to not die. In fact, when I went to Iceland(CCP's EVE Online Fanfest), most of the people I met there were, much to my surprise, pretty much normal people. Though again, the nervewrackingly slow pace of that game requires a decent amount of patience, and therefore maturity, in order to not die/get extremely bored.

 

From what I've seen, it looked closer to World of Warcraft in space with all the endless (read: boring and mind numbing) grinding and stuff so I'd say the players are closer to that group than to flight simmers. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, although I liked some space "sims" (e.g. WC Privateer, Tie Fighter and Starlancer to name a few I consider the most successful ones). Sorry for OT.

 

But IMHO FC3 would do more to enlarge the number of visitors to the forum rather than some new DCS module unless the new module was something extravagant like e.g. the F-22. The FC2 graphics started to look really outdated after the DCS:Warthog.

[124SqZeljava]

Okay, but check this one! I am wondering who are the biggest players in FC2, if we look by nation`s, my 1st thought is the Russians, but you don`t see it in the 1st sight, because most of them don`t speak English, and they go to play on there own servers, with no need to play with other country's and checking other Nation capabilities, except of very few one`s. Can anybody put some list of biggest players by Nation so we can see who are the largest players, if needed we can do it here on forum by signature? is it ok for all of you to do this, maybe the new topic for this is best idea, so that we could have a clean picture, but it would be good that some moderator do this, like some test from ED side. It can be done by Squadron members and one of them to put number for his Country, like China-32, Brazil-21, Mexico-44 etc.

Cheers to all. S!

[GGTharos]

But what will this accomplish? People will still play in private servers. :)

[Pyroflash]

Yes, but now we will know exactly how many people play in those private servers. Which goes a long way to accomplishing something; what, I do not know.

[104th_Crunch]

..But IMHO FC3 would do more to enlarge the number of visitors to the forum rather than some new DCS module unless the new module was something extravagant like e.g. the F-22. The FC2 graphics started to look really outdated after the DCS:Warthog.

 

Although selling sims is a business, and ED are here to make money, at the same time there is a love of the aviation topic by many. Saying that you should make FC3 only because it will sell more is like saying there should only be Britney Spears music and no one should record Punk Rock :D

[124SqZeljava]

But what will this accomplish? People will still play in private servers.

Well yes, i was just wondering, like natural curiosity :)

[Dudikoff]

Although selling sims is a business, and ED are here to make money, at the same time there is a love of the aviation topic by many. Saying that you should make FC3 only because it will sell more is like saying there should only be Britney Spears music and no one should record Punk Rock :D

 

Ouch, Britney comparison is a bit harsh; I said FC3, not HAWX (do people still buy her albums?).

 

Besides, FC3 might be the only chance to fly a Flanker or a Fulcrum with DCS:Warthog graphics for quite some (life)time.

[124SqZeljava]

O my god, u guy`s are looking from ED FC3, FC2 is still new, play and enjoy. I can`t believe u still looking for more...

[Kuky]

O my god, u guy`s are looking from ED FC3, FC2 is still new, play and enjoy. I can`t believe u still looking for more...

 

That's the nature of society... if you see someone/many have bigger house, better car etc etc you will want to have the same... now knowing that DCS A-10C has better graphics then FC2 people want the same :smilewink:

[Boberro]

O my god, u guy`s are looking from ED FC3, FC2 is still new, play and enjoy. I can`t believe u still looking for more...

 

Not only FC 3 but also FC 4 :D

[FLANKERATOR]

Not only FC 3 but also FC 4 :D

 

+1!

DCS1: Ka-50---->FC2

DCS2: A10C---->FC3

DCS3: American fast mover----->FC4

DCS4: Russian fast mover------> Time to say goodbye to FC :cry:

[HungaroJET]

------> Time to say goodbye to FC :cry:

R U a daydreamer ? :crazy: :hehe:

[Krippz]

Please no more further development with the Flaming Cliff's series. Further development on Flaming Cliffs would inherently take away development time from a future DCS module (rob Peter to pay Paul, anyone?). Let's turn to more modules, more engine refinements with the DCS series.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Krippz

[Laud]

Please no more further development with the Flaming Cliff's series. Further development on Flaming Cliffs would inherently take away development time from a future DCS module (rob Peter to pay Paul, anyone?). Let's turn to more modules, more engine refinements with the DCS series.

 

I'd agree, if there wouldn't have been numerous statements by ED-Team members, that such a project would NOT seriously affect the ongoing DCS-Series.

[FLANKERATOR]

I'd agree, if there wouldn't have been numerous statements by ED-Team members, that such a project would NOT seriously affect the ongoing DCS-Series.

 

Exactly, no core development is needed for FC, rather patching to make it run in the DCS engine, also compatible online with DCS modules so we can keep having fun online all together. Not an easy task of course, but nothing ED wouldn't be able to do, that's why we are ready to pay reasonably for it.

[sobek]

I'd agree, if there wouldn't have been numerous statements by ED-Team members, that such a project would NOT seriously affect the ongoing DCS-Series.

 

Plz show me just one.

 

Does nobody remember how the A-10 was delayed by FC2? WTH?

[MemphisBelle]

Plz show me just one.

 

Does nobody remember how the A-10 was delayed by FC2? WTH?

 

Oh yes, I do...

I don´t need a further FC Game. A Compatibilty patch after 4 Modules...OK. Or may be another FC Game after 5 Modules..OK...But I hope there´s no developing time planed to be set on any FC related stuff at the moment.

[Laud]

Wasn't it some of you moderators and testers who said in this thread, that different parts of the teams have a different workload at different stages of product developement/patching, so that one project would not neccessarily affect the other project too much??

 

And honestly, I can't tell, when things are delayed, what's the reason for that. I never knew the A-10C had reasonable delays caused by FC2.

 

If I misunderstood something here, I stand corrected!

[159th_Viper]

Wasn't it some of you moderators and testers who said in this thread, that different parts of the teams have a different workload at different stages of product developement/patching....

 

That is true insofar as that one Dev deals with Avionics, while the other deals with Weapons and another deals with AI and yet another with sound and so on and so on.............As you can see, workloads will as a consequence vary as development/bugs necessitates. The entire team is however needed in the process as a correction to one sector might adversely affect the other and so on.

 

 

....so that one project would not neccessarily affect the other project too much??

 

As above, it most definitely will.

[Dudikoff]

Does nobody remember how the A-10 was delayed by FC2? WTH?

 

But bringing the FC aircraft to DCS standards is MUCH more effort than it should take to bring them from FC2 (e.g. DCS BS) to FC3 (DCS WH).

[sobek]

But bringing the FC aircraft to DCS standards is MUCH more effort than it should take to bring them from FC2 (e.g. DCS BS) to FC3 (DCS WH).

 

So what is your point? That everybody should relinquish flying planes of DCS standard because in less time, he can get FC with better graphics? Doesn't make sense to me. :)

[EtherealN]

If I misunderstood something here, I stand corrected!

 

First off: Testers and Moderators are not ED employees. We do have some additional insight and some additional contact with the devs compared to a "normal" forum user, but the impact of this shouldn't be exhaggerated. We can make educated guesses on things like this, but they do remain exactly that: educated guesses.

 

I would correct your statement thusly:

"that such a project would not necessarily seriously affect the ongoing DCS-Series"

 

I can't say whether it would with any surety. I can say that depending on what has to be done, it is definitely highly possible that the impact can be made minimal. It's also possible (perhaps even likey - I don't have the source code and probably wouldn't understand it even if I did have the source - so I can't say with certainty) that it would be a major problem and might cause significant delays.

[Cali]

Guess we'll have to wait 5+ years to have aircraft like we have now in FC2. This would be a good way to keep people interested, otherwise they might get bored and switch to FPS for a while.

[dok_rp]

I'm sold since page 01. Bring it on ED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly:

[EtherealN]

Guess we'll have to wait 5+ years to have aircraft like we have now in FC2. This would be a good way to keep people interested, otherwise they might get bored and switch to FPS for a while.

 

Nah, everyone will lose interest in FC once the awesomeness that is DCS:AT-802U gets released. :D