DCS World 2.0 and New Maps Discussion Thread

[NineLine]

There is one: CryEngine from CryTek.

 

Of course, but others compare other engines, like Arma3 and Frostbite, it was a more generalized comment, not completely directed at you.

 

 

 

Not now, yes. When EDGE is released we however will have a basis for comparison and it is indeed my hope that when such time arrives that we can compare and seek answers in a constructive, meaningful manner rather than hiding behind respective boulders throwing clay at the opposing faction, calling oranges apples and apples oranges :D

 

When EDGE comes out I am ok with discussing suggestions to make it better for our needs here, if it needs it, but until someone is doing a high fidelity sim with maps the size of what we are expecting in DCS World and the amount of combat being simulated throughout that map, the comparison remains apples and oranges IMHO.

 

I must be too easy going because the level of detail of the screenshots has me really pumped up, yes it looks like they dont have much life in them yet, but they look like a screen shot of an aircraft model in the model viewer or in 3D studio, those still get me excited even though they dont have all the fancy effects and life plugged into them.

[Cornbread]

I for one think the Nevada screens look great; I am looking forward to more in the very near future.

 

Wags, please don't let the naysayers wreck it for the rest of us; I usually just scroll past their posts anyway.

 

Thanks!

[flanker1]

sorry guys, but i love the georgian map und details of the environment. . . it is done with much passion and love to the detail. nevada is not a big deal for me. i love the russian hardware. and desert is quite boring for me. . .

 

will the georgian map migrated to edge?

[NineLine]

sorry guys, but i love the georgian map und details of the environment. . . it is done with much passion and love to the detail. nevada is not a big deal for me. i love the russian hardware. and desert is quite boring for me. . .

 

will the georgian map migrated to edge?

 

The Georgian map will continue to work, but not be rebuilt or benefit from the improvements of EDGE.

[flanker1]

The Georgian map will continue to work, but not be rebuilt or benefit from the improvements of EDGE.

 

ok, thank you very much for the quick answer and the guarantee. means that all new stuff will be compatible with old georgian map "engine" and upcoming edge?

 

will there be a european edge theater?

 

will improvements / updates for the old engine stop when edge is coming?

[Teknetinium]

The Georgian map will continue to work, but not be rebuilt or benefit from the improvements of EDGE.

 

That Is sad since many of us don't want to be transferred to Nevada. I would rather see the existing area grow to Turkey and so on.

Edited September 13, 2013 by Teknetinium

[NineLine]

That Is sad since many of us don't want to be transferred to Nevada.

 

 

I am sure Nevada wont be the only map... and you can stay in Georgia if Nevada is that disappointing to you.

[NineLine]

I dont know what new maps are coming, and assume the old engine will cease to exist... the old map will work with the new engine.

 

ok, thank you very much for the quick answer and the guarantee. means that all new stuff will be compatible with old georgian map "engine" and upcoming edge?

 

will there be a european edge theater?

 

will improvements / updates for the old engine stop when edge is coming?

[Teknetinium]

I am sure Nevada wont be the only map... and you can stay in Georgia if Nevada is that disappointing to you.

 

Any new maps are more than welcome, Since we already have a region it would be logical to build on it as ED did before by adding more of Georgia. Some parts of Turkey close to the Black sea would cover everything a simulated war scenario needs. We could have two carrier groups on each side of the Black Sea.

Edited September 13, 2013 by Teknetinium

[NineLine]

The issue is you cant add on to the current map and have it benefit from edge, you would have to rebuild Georgia then add on what you wanted to add, if you see what I mean. Not to say someone wont do it, just right now ED doesnt seem to have any plans to.

 

Any new maps are more than welcome, Since we already have a region it would be logical to build on it as they did before by adding more of Georgia. I opinion is that some parts of Turkey close to the Black sea would cover everything you need in a simulated war scenario.

Edited September 13, 2013 by NineLine

[Silver_Dragon]

Last Phantom photo, P-51D over Las Vegas Bay and Las Vegas Lake

 

[VincentLaw]

but maybe we see a french aircraft carrier in the Golfe de Calvi and not a russian ship (too far on that screenie)

 

If I had to guess, I would say Clemenceau. Images in the left side in descending order are EDGE Carrier, Charles de Gaulle, Kuznetsov, Carl Vinson, Clemenceau Class.

 

My lines and angles are not perfect, but you can see that Kuznetsov and Vinson definitely have their bridges too far astern, and the CdG bridge is too far forward.

 

[Rotorhead]

Last Phantom photo, P-51D over Las Vegas Bay and Las Vegas Lake

 

From this altitude, it looks absolutely stunning, almost like a real photo. :thumbup:

[cichlidfan]

From this altitude, it looks absolutely stunning, almost like a real photo. :thumbup:

 

Old Nevada had it's nice spots, but you don't want to see the entire shoreline of that lake.

[Blaze]

Last Phantom photo, P-51D over Las Vegas Bay and Las Vegas Lake

 

 

That's my screenshot, from a LONG time ago. May 01, 2012 from my screenshot folder. Beta terrain, not EDGE. Carry on...

Edited September 13, 2013 by Blaze

[Silver_Dragon]

The clemenceau was very flat..... I think this is the ship that is in the bay.

 

[SkateZilla]

The clemenceau was very flat..... I think this is the ship that is in the bay.

 

 

Agreed

[NineLine]

This thread is about EDGE, not Crytek, please keep all discussions of other engines in their own threads...

[EtherealN]

Now we are comparing a Granny Smith apple (EDGE) to a Golden Delicious apple (CryEngine) and unless there is evidence that disproves the allegation that the CryEngine can indeed cater for the viewing distance needed by DCS then the comparison suddenly becomes valid. Is there?

 

:)

 

You just reversed burden of proof.

 

You can find it in your own post, I'll highlight:

 

"unless there is evidence that disproves the allegation" (Though it should be "assertion". :P )

 

You are saying that an "allegation" will stand by default unless proven false.

Only way to prove it false is to do it. So... Cryengine can do it by default, and the only way to change this perception is to make someone actually implement this on cryengine? Shouldn't it be the reverse; that Cryengine will have proven it's capability of doing this when someone actually does it.

 

I can allege that I can run 100 meters faster than Usain Bolt; the only way to make this not so is if you can bribe me into running 100 meters on your stopwatch. Which I won't do. So... yeah, please consider me the fastest man in the world. :)

 

As you can see, that kind of argument doesn't work, so let's please keep that out of this. You can always open a different thread in Other Sim News or something when some other product or engine shows something you feel is worth discussing.

[EtherealN]

How come? Would the unrealistic replies/illogical comparison shots that some people are giving offend ED or some thing? Why couldn't they just ignore these posts? I really hope that is not the case. :dunno:

 

Ed knows that what they are showing is WIP....so..?

 

Anyway, thanks for the screen shots Wags. Looking forward to this one for a long time!

 

We appreciate that the majority are thankful for the pictures and understand the context in which they are given. Thankyou to all of you.

 

The problem is that there is a loud minority that, whenever such materiel is published, instantly create a LOT of extra work for moderators and administrators. Not a big deal, just a question of deciding where it is worth spending our resources. :)

[159th_Viper]

....that Cryengine will have proven it's capability of doing this when someone actually does it....

 

That's the thing - they have.

 

And no, I do not want to continue with this discussion. I am however necessitated to do so, twice now, by the likes of your and other posts calling me out, thus necessitating a reply clarifying previous submissions made.

[cichlidfan]

Must find popcorn popper!!

 

;)

[NineLine]

Pretty sure I saw one in one of those Nevada screenshots :)

 

Must find popcorn popper!!

 

;)

[TimeKilla]

Yeah screenshots are nice!

 

 

Edited September 13, 2013 by TimeKilla
Master of changing topics

[EtherealN]

That's the thing - they have.

 

And no, I do not want to continue with this discussion. I am however necessitated to do so, twice now, by the likes of your and other posts calling me out, thus necessitating a reply clarifying previous submissions made.

 

I'm curious, let's get a thread in Other Sim news or wherever. I've been quite busy lately so clearly I have missed something in the greater gaming circles.