Tailgate Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Is P-51 vs Toad possible now in MP? Would like to see some vids. Who'd you think would win?
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 Is P-51 vs Toad possible now in MP? Would like to see some vids. Who'd you think would win? The better pilot. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
joey45 Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 The better pilot. Nate This. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
TurboHog Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Is P-51 vs Toad possible now in MP? Would like to see some vids. Who'd you think would win? I've tested this several times with a friend... And we found out that it not only depends on the better pilot... The P51D wins... It simply wins when both pilots are just as good or when the Su25 pilot is better. The P51 won't leave a Toad's tail because the P51's turn radius is superior. When I was flying Su25 I found out that the only way to get him of my tail is a 90 degree pitch up manoeuvre and wait for the P51 to stall first. Or, use your speed to move away from the P51 and turn around for a head-on. With your 30mm you will have a good chance in a head on engagement. But the P51 wins in 'CQB'. Looking forward to P51 vs A10... 'Frett'
Boberro Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 The better pilot. Nate Agree. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
cichlidfan Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 I've tested this several times with a friend... And we found out that it not only depends on the better pilot... The P51D wins... It simply wins when both pilots are just as good or when the Su25 pilot is better. The P51 won't leave a Toad's tail because the P51's turn radius is superior. When I was flying Su25 I found out that the only way to get him of my tail is a 90 degree pitch up manoeuvre and wait for the P51 to stall first. Or, use your speed to move away from the P51 and turn around for a head-on. With your 30mm you will have a good chance in a head on engagement. But the P51 wins in 'CQB'. Looking forward to P51 vs A10... I have a suspicion that the A-10 will not be able to shake the P-51 at all and those big engines are not going to like the .50 cal rounds coming right in through the back. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 6, 2012 Author Posted May 6, 2012 I've tested this several times with a friend... And we found out that it not only depends on the better pilot... The P51D wins... It simply wins when both pilots are just as good or when the Su25 pilot is better. The P51 won't leave a Toad's tail because the P51's turn radius is superior. When I was flying Su25 I found out that the only way to get him of my tail is a 90 degree pitch up manoeuvre and wait for the P51 to stall first. Or, use your speed to move away from the P51 and turn around for a head-on. With your 30mm you will have a good chance in a head on engagement. But the P51 wins in 'CQB'. Looking forward to P51 vs A10... What I tend to do is extend and then circle over the P-51 just high enough for him not reach me, and then wait until the pilot makes the inevitable mistake and swoop. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
TurboHog Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 What I tend to do is extend and then circle over the P-51 just high enough for him not reach me, and then wait until the pilot makes the inevitable mistake and swoop. Nate We tried everything... He couldn't catch me when I made use of my higher energy potential or speed. But the dogfight was endless as I couldn't catch him either. In other fights I won some head-on's, but when we tried to dogfight the traditional way (trying to turn and get behind opponent at roughly the same altitude), he won. Everytime. None of us made the mistake, or didn't took the advantage. I think. The missiles were effective, though :P 'Frett'
ED Team Wags Posted May 6, 2012 ED Team Posted May 6, 2012 Once heat management is fully functional and players cannot run around at 61" MAP all day, things may be a little different. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
cichlidfan Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Once heat management is fully functional and players cannot run around at 61" MAP all day, things may be a little different. Good point! ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
gunterlund21 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Well I am thoroughly enjoying the SU-25 these days. Its a challenge to fly with all the ordnance on board and a challenge to find targets but with a little practice it can be done. Ive finally got my cougar set up to handle all the intricacies of the plane. I would love to see this aircraft looked at again in the future and brought up to DCS standards. Id be the first in line to buy. I was in Art of the Kill D#@ it!!!!
Gunnergolly Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Agreed the SU-25T is a fantastic plane, once you have the autopilot mastered. The only problem that i have with the "Toad" is that once i have finally found the target with it's forward facing Shkval.........i'm often nearly on top of it !!!... At least with the A-10C you can circle and take your time searching with the TGP.. My only real complaint with the current Su-25T is that it currently has no fire suppressant system fitted to it's engines.... Looking forward to the SU-25 "Froggie" when she comes.... Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, Pimax Crystal, Quest Pro, Realsimulator FSSB R3 ULTRA, Virpil/Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS combo, MFG Crosswind Pedals.
Wichid Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 I flew the SU-25T with the ricardo cockpit mod tonight for the first time. It's a heap of fun and really easy to learn the basics. It's a great lost leader to get people into DCS World and playing with others! Lyndiman AMD Ryzen 3600 / RTX 2070 Super / 32G Ram / Win10 / TrackIR 5 Pro / Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
Gunnergolly Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 If your using Track IR have you tried Ducky's 6DOF mod ??..... http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1448485&postcount=46 Works pretty good.. 1 Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, Pimax Crystal, Quest Pro, Realsimulator FSSB R3 ULTRA, Virpil/Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS combo, MFG Crosswind Pedals.
fzfq3m Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Learning... I must say that so far I'm loving the "toad" Last night I tried to take down the USS Carl Vinson using a KH-58 and the Phantasmagoria ELINT pod... the carrier fired two missiles at me just before I was able to launch both kh-58 just seconds before my toad was broken in half... LOL I thrown everthing at those missiles from chaf, flares, tomatoes... god even the virtual helmet :huh: Wondering if the Hog can put a GBU on carl's deck deck from high altitude and scape without scratches?:pilotfly: Compuer Specs Intel Core i7 920 D0 @2.6Ghz Asus P6T7 WS rev2 6GB Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 2xHP 300GB 10K SAS RAID 1 Corsair AX1200 Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 3GB Water Cooling Specs: Koolance CPU-360 Koolance ASP6T7WS 2xSwiftech MCP655 with EK D5 Dual Top 1xBlack Ice GT S 360 XFlow 1xPhobya Xtreme 400 Tubing:Tygon 2001 1/2" 2xBitfenix Spectre Pro 230mm Swiftech MCres Rev1
Revelation Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Wondering if the Hog can put a GBU on carl's deck deck from high altitude and scape without scratches?:pilotfly: Nope... Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
joey45 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 What was your altitude? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
tflash Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 The Toad is faster than the A-10. That means a lot I do find. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
fzfq3m Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 I still want to sink that sucker... :spam_laser: I think I really need to improve my evasive maneuvers:D Compuer Specs Intel Core i7 920 D0 @2.6Ghz Asus P6T7 WS rev2 6GB Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 2xHP 300GB 10K SAS RAID 1 Corsair AX1200 Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 3GB Water Cooling Specs: Koolance CPU-360 Koolance ASP6T7WS 2xSwiftech MCP655 with EK D5 Dual Top 1xBlack Ice GT S 360 XFlow 1xPhobya Xtreme 400 Tubing:Tygon 2001 1/2" 2xBitfenix Spectre Pro 230mm Swiftech MCres Rev1
tflash Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Well, I once did manage to sink a heavy warship, by flying very low in the Toad armed with ARM missiles. So, I skimmed the sea at about 50-60 meters with the autopilot and launched Kh-58 and then Kh-25. I was killed in the process however. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MadTommy Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Just loving flying the Toad in DCS. With the 6dof mod & Ricardo's cockpit mod its a gem have available in DCS. Personally i quite like the fact it is of lower fidelity than true DCS airframes.. nice and easy to get you head around the systems but still a challenge to master and fly well. i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Gizmondo Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Can somon adapt the beczl rocket launchers and other bombs for the Toad pleaaaase???!! http://www.virtual-aaf.com
RodBorza Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Just loving flying the Toad in DCS. With the 6dof mod & Ricardo's cockpit mod its a gem have available in DCS. Personally i quite like the fact it is of lower fidelity than true DCS airframes.. nice and easy to get you head around the systems but still a challenge to master and fly well. I agree. I'm loving to fly the Toad. I fell a litle guity to say that I'm loving it a little bit more than the A-10. The Toad has not the same advanced systems as the A-10. But it is more maneuverable. And it can do SEAD. A-10 can't. 'Nough said.:D This is an amazing sim! 'Nuff said!:pilotfly: YouTube: SloppyDog
Harke Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Can somon adapt the beczl rocket launchers and other bombs for the Toad pleaaaase???!! +1
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