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One problem I am finding is that I do not have the ability to lean forward and back. My head does not move forward in the cockpit. Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Also, the mouse does not work when I am in the aircraft with the DK2. So I cannot make menu options.

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DK2 won't move in "z" (lean forward and lean sideways)

 

Hi - Everything works great on my machine except I cannot lean forward and sideways with the DK2 when flying the intro Mustang. As I lean, the whole screen moves forward or sideways instead of my head. Is there a setting or a fix for this that I may be missing?

 

Thank you.

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Check your sync cable, the one that looks like a headphone jack and goes between the camera and the little box near the usb connector, and that the camera is detected in the oculus config.

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Thx Hadwell - you gave me the idea to check it in the Oculus config utility and when I ran the demo scene there it would not lean forward either. So I did a re-boot and it fixed it. Thx for the help.

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I repaired this by restarting the oculus using the Oculus config utility

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I received my Dk2 yesterday, at last! (ordered in august) and for the sake of my life I can't make it work with DCS. Monitor flashes, Rift shows nothing, the graphics card's driver stalls and resets itself... I updated DCS, the Oculus runtime is latest, nvidia drivers is latest. Maybe compatibility is broken with last DCS update. I wonder what is that so weird that DCS is trying to do to the Rift that is the only application I've tried so far that has problems.

 

By the way, I love the way LFS handles the Rift. The virtual screen for menu, in-game options HUD, etc works fantastic. I hope ED takes note.

 

 

1) You may or may not have to stop the Oculus service (via oculus setting). IIRC, the latest update negates the need to do this.

2) Run DCS in windows mode

3) In Oculus setting, turn off Direct HMD mode (wording is something like that)

4) In DCS, set it to auto detect Rift.

5) You may or may not have to set the Rift monitor to portrait/landscape. On mine, I had to switch it from on to the other.

 

that ought to do it.

 

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Maybe double check your cabling and power? If not, uninstall Rift, repair DCS and give it a shot again.

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IDK, if anyone else has this bug but my mouse when the menu is on the rift only reaches halfway and hits an invisible wall like the edge of the monitor. Does anyone know a work around to this problem?

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Well, it appears to me that I'm finally able to fly in DCS multiplayer with the DK2 Rift; without having to disable rift service and without putting Rift at primary monitor.

 

The controls, however, are a little buggy (e.g., taxiing to runway - steering is a bit hectic but clears up).

 

Is there a teak for clearing this up?

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I've got it figured out.. I was going into 'the pit' too fast and not allowing the program & oculus to sync, during the start of Multi-player. I made some adjustments in the 'options' menu; Also, I increased the waypoint font in the F-15 HUD display along with changing the HUD color (R-CNTRL/H). Pixelation is not much of a problem, but can still improve. I'm sure that will be fixed when the consumers edition of oculus is out. This DCS/Oculus is awesome!!!

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I've got it figured out.. I was going into 'the pit' too fast and not allowing the program & oculus to sync, during the start of Multi-player. I made some adjustments in the 'options' menu; Also, I increased the waypoint font in the F-15 HUD display along with changing the HUD color (R-CNTRL/H). Pixelation is not much of a problem, but can still improve. I'm sure that will be fixed when the consumers edition of oculus is out. This DCS/Oculus is awesome!!!

 

How do you change the default hud font? It's tooooo small for the Rift...I can't read any of it :(

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Just wanted to share my lessons learned with you guys. I've been having stuttering issues with DK2 and DCS. I stumbled upon an article for dk2 where guys were recommending using Dxtory. It is a program that I believe is for image and video capture but it has a great FPS limiter. Before this I was trying to use Nvidia inspector with no luck. Dxtory works very well and makes the DCS cockpits almost as smooth as the oculus utility demo. Just download it and set the fps under the CPU tab to 75. Enjoy!

 

Just the note though, I still have a distinct vertical jutter only on one eye. Not sure what causes it.

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About Oculus...

 

Hey folks,

 

Been thinking a lot recently about the Oculus and DCS. I had a shot of Dk1 quite a while back now and wasnt immediately quite as amazed as I was expecting to be. Mostly due to the crummy resolution and partly because the first couple of minutes turned my stomach; but the more I played though the more I lost track of the poor resolution and got into it.

 

Anyway... DK2 is out and I haven't tried it - but the word on the street is the resolution still isn't good enough to read your gauges and switchgear without leaning in.

 

Edit: for some reason my original post didn't include the most important paragraph:

 

With Crescent Bay on the horizon I will be first in line to buy it IF someone can convince me that it's possible to get a detailed enough image out of such a small screen. I understand they are rumoured to be 1440 screens... But I just can't see how the pixels can be so small and accurate that my eyes (no glasses/contact lenses needed) will be able to make out the instruments...

 

Otherwise I'll probably be looking at superwide monitors and TIR5 (I have TIR4 at the mo but it's on its last legs)

 

Thanks for reading and I look forward to your replies!

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I have heard the same about guages. I will find out first hand in some weeks, but at the least the resolution has increased from DK1 along with reduced latency and improved head tracking which should help with the puke factor. I got to try the DK1 and DK2 and the 2 has noticeably better resolution. My hope is CV1 ups it even more.

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Anyway... DK2 is out and I haven't tried it - but the word on the street is the resolution still isn't good enough to read your gauges and switchgear without leaning in

 

Which is one of the reasons Oculus cautions people not to buy it unless they are developer's (or at least understand that it is not ready for prime time).

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Which is one of the reasons Oculus cautions people not to buy it unless they are developer's (or at least understand that it is not ready for prime time).

 

Heh. I wonder what percentage breakdown is of consumer vs developer of the DevKits. I would reckon majority consumer who saved their pennies for a glimpse of the future.

 

The question still remains - is it physically possible to produce a detailed enough image from such a small screen?

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Well one of the Oculus team(forgot who) mentioned that they would need 8k per eye to get the same visual density of a monitor. As to the resolution of monitor he is mentioning I would think 1080p.

 

I think for something like DCS it will be a wait and see kind of thing.

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The question still remains - is it physically possible to produce a detailed enough image from such a small screen?

 

There's the one thing that is easy to overlook around here. Oculus/FB will still have a winner even if you can't quite read the gauges, which I suspect may end up being the case for CV1, since there will still be so many games that it will work extremely well with.

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Even if they had the display resolution to enable you to see all the switches and gauges (8k, is it?), you'd need a $10K PC to drive it... at least for today. Give it a few years.

 

The interesting thing is that the human eye doesn't even have that great of resolution for the majority of it's FOV, it's just that your central vision is so sharp & your brain is so good at filling in the gaps, it just *feels* like you have good resolving power.

 

It's really seems to be a waste to have to drive a whole display at these high resolutions just to satisfy that tiny, but super important, portion of overall vision. I wonder if it'd be feasible to use eye-tracking to only render the full resolution in the area where the eye is pointing, and downscale the peripheral areas on the fly. Of course, hardware wise, you'd need to have the full resolution available to the whole display, but it'd help with the processing power.

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Well i am a lucky owner of oculus DK2 and to be very honest with you i dont think it will ever be any good for a hard core flight sim. You need as you need to see your controls. Now using oculus on something like a sim racing is a different story all together. And i just feel that we need so much more resolution to make it really usable and i dont think the technology is there yet.

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Doesnt setti g a slider to zoom work with OR? Is doing that asking for a puke fest? I use this a lot with a monitor already and cant really see why it'd hurt unless its diorienting...

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The plugin for prepared has a quick zoom and it is quite functional, no side effects.

 

This is my take on the gauges. you can't really read them. Who knows what sort of resolution will be required or if it will happen with the CV1. Secondly, depending what gauges you are talking about depends if you need to read them. I can glance at some gauges and clearly see where the needle is pointing. I don't need to know what value it is as I basically know from where the needle points.

 

 

Thats the gauges, the next question is does it matter too much for gauges? Depends what planes you fly as to how important they are.

 

A lot of flight simming can be done without having to know the miniature of what your gauges are doing, if you are a VFR flyer then only a couple gauges are really necessary and you can tell by needle position if you are in ballpark.

 

So some planes and some type of flying may not be the best but that doesn't rule out flight simulation as a good experience in the rift. It may just rule it out for some of you flying some particular planes, fair enough but that doesn't cover the flight sim genre as a whole by a long shot.

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