Oculus Rift and DCS World Discussion

[hannibal]

i just want to say a big thank you to MATT WAGNER for validating everything i have done with the last 7 years (control hardware building). i remember my first time getting Lockon to work on triple screen. it was cool to look at, but i couldnt get immersed into the setup where even on a descent system, i had to turn everything on low-med to get descent frame rates. using the hat switch for view control was lame, and as much as i tried trackIR, it was un-natural for me, let alone having this annoying IR clip attached. it was a waiting game when the A10C was announced, as i drooled over the detail systems.

 

But then came along the oculus rift. which from the first kickstarter concept was introduced, i felt it would be something and believed it will be a viable means over a cave-like system.

 

DCS continues to evolve with the recently vamp graphics engine to bring good performance to computers of this day.

 

i cant wait to play DCS on CV1, along with the continued optimzation of both DCS, windows, and graphics drivers, and the oculus runtimes.

 

great days are coming.

i think the fully develop multi-seat features / implementation will be the next big milestone ( and the CV1 release of course)

 

i one day like to fulfill a dream of running DCS tandem seat attack helo, with my custom controller hardware and chairs with multiseat functional with my friend as the co-pilot gunner wearing oculus rifts in a mutliplayer server to fly with other multiseat online players... :D

 

thanks Matt, keep the good news coming!

[hansangb]

hansangb

 

The comments were made by Matt Wagner on Froggles VBLOG I don't know what Matt has for computer specs. I have a Titan X 5 GB card but do not have a Rift so you may be misunderstanding. I do get 120 plus FPS on World 2

 

Ah...I missed that part. Got it...thanks.

[Enduro14]

That is by far the best news ever with dcs world I'm so happy they are taking Vr serious as its so amazing even with crap screen dk2. It being a night day difference with cv1 has totally reassured my cv1 purchase!! Awesome times and hurry up April!

[Vladdo]

Wonder how far away a runtime for SDK 1.0 is? I've been running DK2/DCS 2.0 for a couple of weeks now and have been absolutely amazed. For the most part I get relatively little judder, and it's only really bad when I use the huey, mi8 & mig 21 and if I fly downtown in nevada. I'm running a 6700k @ 4.5ghz & 2x 980tis..

 

I hope that sdk 1.0 runtime isn't too far away as asynchronous timewarp would be simply awesome..

 

I use a g940 & a logitech touchpad.. for the most part it's pretty good, as the touchpad is very intuitive to use in VR..

 

[Legolasindar]

Nice video Pete, a few comments regarding DCS + Rift:

1- Keypad 5 re-centers view

2- We now have DCS 1.5/2.0 working great in the CV Rift with 1.0 RC runtime. Night and day compared to DK2 with 0.8.

3- The big item we are now working on is better mouse interaction with the cockpit while in VR.

4- For Rift CV you will ideally want 90 FPS; however, we have "timewarp" working great now. So, even at less than 90 FPS, the experience is very smooth

 

 

Matt,s comments on Froggle Vblog

I hope that the solution for the mouse, it's that I mentioned a few years ago, or something better :music_whistling:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=112641

[Frusheen]

I'm so happy to hear that timewarp is coming. Since finishing overclocking my current settings which allow smooth judder free flight over downtown Vegas in Rift equate to 200 to 220fps on the desktop (single monitor 1080p). With timewarp it may mean I won't have to turn down settings for CV1 with its higher res and higher refresh rate. This along with further graphics optimizations may see a target desktop framerate of 180fps resulting in smooth VR performance rather than the current 220fps.

 

 

I hope they can further optimize shadows as that is the one thing missing in the VR environment for me. I can't run with them on due to judder.

[j0nx]

Wonder how far away a runtime for SDK 1.0 is? I've been running DK2/DCS 2.0 for a couple of weeks now and have been absolutely amazed. For the most part I get relatively little judder, and it's only really bad when I use the huey, mi8 & mig 21 and if I fly downtown in nevada. I'm running a 6700k @ 4.5ghz & 2x 980tis..

 

I hope that sdk 1.0 runtime isn't too far away as asynchronous timewarp would be simply awesome..

 

I use a g940 & a logitech touchpad.. for the most part it's pretty good, as the touchpad is very intuitive to use in VR..

 

 

You should try DCS with just a single 980ti enabled. Something with DCS is broken big time with SLI and causes a lot of stuttering and no increase at all in fps when 2 cards are enabled in SLI. Performance for me is way better with a single card than with two at least until they fix the SLI issues with this engine. I'm betting any jutter you get in VR will go away if you play with just one card and overall smoothness will increase greatly.

[Frusheen]

Wonder how far away a runtime for SDK 1.0 is? I've been running DK2/DCS 2.0 for a couple of weeks now and have been absolutely amazed. For the most part I get relatively little judder, and it's only really bad when I use the huey, mi8 & mig 21 and if I fly downtown in nevada. I'm running a 6700k @ 4.5ghz & 2x 980tis..

 

I hope that sdk 1.0 runtime isn't too far away as asynchronous timewarp would be simply awesome..

 

I use a g940 & a logitech touchpad.. for the most part it's pretty good, as the touchpad is very intuitive to use in VR..

 

Runtime 1.0 will be released to us at the end of March.

[Krupi]

Nice video Pete, a few comments regarding DCS + Rift:

1- Keypad 5 re-centers view

2- We now have DCS 1.5/2.0 working great in the CV Rift with 1.0 RC runtime. Night and day compared to DK2 with 0.8.

3- The big item we are now working on is better mouse interaction with the cockpit while in VR.

4- For Rift CV you will ideally want 90 FPS; however, we have "timewarp" working great now. So, even at less than 90 FPS, the experience is very smooth

 

 

Matt,s comments on Froggle Vblog

 

Where are these comments, I can't find them?

[Frusheen]

Where are these comments, I can't find them?

 

They are in the comments on the frooglesim video posted earlier.

 

Edited January 19, 2016 by Frusheen

[Abburo]

You should had a point "Not interested" ;)

[dot]

Wonder how far away a runtime for SDK 1.0 is? I've been running DK2/DCS 2.0 for a couple of weeks now and have been absolutely amazed. For the most part I get relatively little judder, and it's only really bad when I use the huey, mi8 & mig 21 and if I fly downtown in nevada. I'm running a 6700k @ 4.5ghz & 2x 980tis..

 

I hope that sdk 1.0 runtime isn't too far away as asynchronous timewarp would be simply awesome..

 

I use a g940 & a logitech touchpad.. for the most part it's pretty good, as the touchpad is very intuitive to use in VR..

 

 

Compliments on an excellent hotas choice :)!

Too many people these days are happy with using joysticks with springs, which makes me sad :(

[Krupi]

They are in the comments on the frooglesim video posted earlier.

 

Ah thank you!!! I thought comments were disabled for some reason...

 

Well I have asked Matt a few questions, hopefully he answers them!

 

1)Have you personally tried the CV1?

 

2)If you have how does the screen compare to DK2, are the pixels still an issue?

 

3)I plan on using it for DCS WWII where obviously you need a decent resolution when spotting aircraft, do you think CV1 will work in this scenario?

[Burnerski]

I may be tarred and feathered but I believe DCS should charge for Rift implementation.:music_whistling:

 

 

R/

 

Daniel

[Enduro14]

I may be tarred and feathered but I believe DCS should charge for Rift implementation.:music_whistling:

 

 

R/

 

Daniel

 

Go sit in the corner, ED will make good sales because of VR. It is already evident all over the web people are hungry for this. Speaking of Matts comments on that youtube channel. Just those comments have the internet a buzz in excitement because its going to be freaking awesome.

[vicx]

Youtube will be filled with videos of people playing DCS in VR and then the VR horde will descend over these boards.

[=DECOY=]

I may be tarred and feathered but I believe DCS should charge for Rift implementation.:music_whistling:

 

 

R/

 

Daniel

 

 

oh dear lol someone get this guy a bench....a time out bench hehe

[hannibal]

 

i plan to be a serious VR heli driver.. :D

 

but i am curious about the improve mouse functionality..

[X93355]

Is this the "I've pre-ordered" section?

 

Just ordered. What was $599 USD turned into $699 USD when I selected I was in NZ.

Then shipping (which will be from China) was another $138 USD on top of that.

All that equates to $1355 NZD

Then when it arrives in NZ, it will be stung with import duties and GST which will equate to approx a further $200 which makes the rift $1555 NZD

 

Yep - maybe a little buyers remorse right there. Have never used any of the DK's so I am hoping this will be mind blowing for the cost!

[=DECOY=]

Is this the "I've pre-ordered" section?

 

Just ordered. What was $599 USD turned into $699 USD when I selected I was in NZ.

Then shipping (which will be from China) was another $138 USD on top of that.

All that equates to $1355 NZD

Then when it arrives in NZ, it will be stung with import duties and GST which will equate to approx a further $200 which makes the rift $1555 NZD

 

Yep - maybe a little buyers remorse right there. Have never used any of the DK's so I am hoping this will be mind blowing for the cost!

 

 

I promise it will blow your mind.. your gaming experience just reached the next level.

 

 

the cost will be a blur my friend :thumbup:

[Vladdo]

Is this the "I've pre-ordered" section?

 

Just ordered. What was $599 USD turned into $699 USD when I selected I was in NZ.

Then shipping (which will be from China) was another $138 USD on top of that.

All that equates to $1355 NZD

Then when it arrives in NZ, it will be stung with import duties and GST which will equate to approx a further $200 which makes the rift $1555 NZD

 

Yep - maybe a little buyers remorse right there. Have never used any of the DK's so I am hoping this will be mind blowing for the cost!

 

Yeouch.. and I thought we Aussies were getting it bad.. $1140AUD..

 

That said, having been playing with a DK2 in DCS, I can't play it on a standard monitor anymore. It quite literally transforms the experience. On a monitor DCS feels like a video game. On a HMD it feels like I'm flying a plane. Even simple stuff like opening the canopy, popping your head out of the window and looking at the flames belch from the exhaust on the p51 is just so cool. Let alone flying around with an open canopy just so you can admire the view sans glass.

[hansangb]

I hope you have the requisite fan blowing on your face! :)

[Krupi]

I promise it will blow your mind.. your gaming experience just reached the next level.

 

 

the cost will be a blur my friend :thumbup:

 

Glad you are confident, I have had a DK2 and the screen resolution/pixel density was way too low. CV1 needs to be a huge step up, that said I still have preordered one! :lol:

[Vladdo]

You should try DCS with just a single 980ti enabled. Something with DCS is broken big time with SLI and causes a lot of stuttering and no increase at all in fps when 2 cards are enabled in SLI. Performance for me is way better with a single card than with two at least until they fix the SLI issues with this engine. I'm betting any jutter you get in VR will go away if you play with just one card and overall smoothness will increase greatly.

 

No difference for me. Plays perfectly out in the desert with no judder, but when las vegas, constant judder.

[Frusheen]

No difference for me. Plays perfectly out in the desert with no judder, but when las vegas, constant judder.

 

I manage no judder with a 980ti. Are you trying to use max settings?