Krupi Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) What is the best (most suitable) DCS module for use with the Rift? Looking for comments from those who use a rift version (DK2 or CV1) with DCS. The A-10C is my favorite, but I am worried about the resolution and inability to read displays adequately... Is the CV1 resolution be good enough to use/fight the A-10C? Thanks As an owner of an owner of a DK2 I can tell you the Screen Door Effect made it unplayable to dogfight in DCS. CV1 has supposedly fixed the Screen Door Effect (Sde) so that should not be an issue. However I am personally concerned that the resolution will not be high enough to spot targets or the SDE solution creates too much blur hindering the spotting... I would like ED to answer these questions as if it does I will cancel my preorder! Regarding aircraft IIRC the Fw190 and P-51 worked very well, with more detailed cockpits aka Mig21, Mi8 the framerate suffered however that was in 1.2. I would love to try 1.5 and 2.0 however my DK2 is in America with my brother :( Edited January 21, 2016 by Krupi Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Revelation Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Under 1.5 and 2.0 DK2 has been running just fine. The performance increase since 1.5 was amazing. Stuff can still be challenging to read, displays, etc.. It's not as bad as some make it out to be. Spotting aircraft is still a challenge. when you are close in - doing dogfights, it's not bad and your SA awareness goes up compared to TrackIR. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
Chivas Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 According to these leaks, they did plan to release CV1 with front facing camera. Why they ditched the camera and bundled Xbone controller is anybody's guess. http://www.slashgear.com/gleaning-information-from-the-oculus-rift-cv1-leak-10387717/ The Xbox controllers were added because 99.9% of the VR content was made for that type of controller. It cost Oculus very little, as it was part of a very limited partnership deal with Microsoft. I doubt Oculus paid anymore than ten dollars for the controller, and would have very little effect if any on the price of the Rift.
Chivas Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) The inclusion of the xbox controller made most VR content developers very happy, it didn't cost Oculus anything to do it, and it didn't cost the Rift buyers anything. If you already have one sell the controller to offset the Rifts price. A failure NOT. Edited January 21, 2016 by Chivas
Chivas Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Redundant fail. Last minute add on to try and make up for high price and lack of controllers. Last minute??? The vast majority of VR content has been made for Xbox type controllers for the last few years. Your obvious dislike of anything Oculus has clouded your perception of reality.
TomOnSteam Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Before the pre order opened I was very reluctant to buy the DK2. I thought that once the CV1 is out, the DK2 will become worthless. Now that I know the price and how long it will take to get a CV1, I'm thinking that maybe a second hand DK2 is viable anyway, just to get a taste of VR. Question to anyone out there with a DK2: Do you think it's worth getting a DK2 for this reason at this time? I can get a good deal on a second hand DK2. Less than 1/3 of the price that I would have to pay for CV1. What about future support from Oculus? Will it work with future games and runtime releases? Having tried the DK2. it's not a product you'd want to use all of the time. It's fine as a taster, but having tried it, it feels very much like a prototype and has many limitations. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode
brindle Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I may be a little late, entering in on this conversation... I too, wear glasses when I read. Now that I'm 50, I wear glasses when I drive. I purchased the DK2 2-years ago. It came with a pair of "A" lenses (for normal sighted people), and "B" type lenses (for those less fortunate). To this day, I wear no glasses while 'strapped into the rift', and the "A" lenses work perfectly! I just pre-purchased the (consumer's edition) of Oculus due in about March - May of 2016.
Brisse Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 They threw the Xbone in at the last minute after postponing the controllers and jacking up the price. I'm just calling it like it is. Last minute? Haha :) Xbone controller bundle was announced last summer (June) at the same time that the Touch controllers were announced. That's not "last minute".
SkateZilla Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I understand that completely I would use the camera maybe to grab a drink something along those lines I'm gonna stick with the Rift I just wanted thoughts. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Who needs cups, lol http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bell-Hydration-Pack-1.5-Liter/34038257 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
SkateZilla Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Last minute? Haha :) Xbone controller bundle was announced last summer (June) at the same time that the Touch controllers were announced. That's not "last minute". They threw the Xbone in at the last minute after postponing the controllers and jacking up the price. I'm just calling it like it is. Yup, Bundle was announced a while ago, as MS is going to support Rift As Well on XBO. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Frusheen Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Last minute??? The vast majority of VR content has been made for Xbox type controllers for the last few years. Your obvious dislike of anything Oculus has clouded your perception of reality. Don't feed the troll. Icarus has said he's not buying a rift yet continues to post in this thread to knock it every chance he gets. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051
dot Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 How can anyone call themselves a member of the pc master race :D and say that a non-tracked, puny console controller is the best thing Oculus (and Facebook wallet) can bring us in 2016 :joystick: ? At least valve is trying to come up with something new with their steam gamepad, oculus is simply being lazy. The only way they can redeem themselves to me, is to squeeze Microsoft to release new and much improved Sidewinder Force Feedback 3!:P
Frusheen Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Yup, Bundle was announced a while ago, as MS is going to support Rift As Well on XBO. Not directly! To clarify the xbo will be able to stream games to the PC which can then be played in the rift on a virtual big screen but not in full VR. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051
Chivas Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Don't feed the troll. Icarus has said he's not buying a rift yet continues to post in this thread to knock it every chance he gets. Yes its been patently obvious for years, but some people actually believe his constant misinformation. I don't have a problem with him preferring the Vive as its a very good HMD, but he usually has to throw in some misinformation about the Rift to support his Vive argument.
cichlidfan Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Who needs cups, lol http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bell-Hydration-Pack-1.5-Liter/34038257 Gamers would snatch those up in a heartbeat if they kept Mt. Dew cold. :P ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
SkateZilla Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Not directly! To clarify the xbo will be able to stream games to the PC which can then be played in the rift on a virtual big screen but not in full VR. Correct, VIA the Windoss 10 Xbox App. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
SkateZilla Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Gamers would snatch those up in a heartbeat if they kept Mt. Dew cold. :P Mine keeps cold cold for at least 5 hours, also keeps your back cool. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
vicx Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 The A-10C is my favorite, but I am worried about the resolution and inability to read displays adequately It is my experience that most dials and switches in the cockpit are rendered with sufficient detail to be readable and usable. The navigational MFDs "can" be harder to read small text on so that is the weakest point in the VR cockpit ... IMO. For these reasons I found the Mi-8 to be the most VR ready cockpit. All the dials and switches I can be read and you can fly all non-combat missions without any problems and "many" combat missions can be flown too. It is a shame that the Kneeboard does not work in VR. We really NEED the kneeboard for VR.
S3NTRY11 Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Yes its been patently obvious for years, but some people actually believe his constant misinformation. I don't have a problem with him preferring the Vive as its a very good HMD, but he usually has to throw in some misinformation about the Rift to support his Vive argument. Hilarious. Your Oculus love spamming the Vive thread with misinformation has been constant. 1 Slip the surly bonds of Earth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Core i7 2600k@4.5||Z77 Extreme 6||16GB RAM WIN 10||HTC Vive ||G940||1080Ti
TOYKILLA Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 The Oculus Rift is the best choice for a Single Seat Simulator in 2016. I think I will Order the Vive to,but only for Holodeck Games. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator
dot Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I'm liking the front facing camera, Vive can actually project your joystick into the the lower part of your viewport|: [ame] [/ame] (scroll to 8.05) Edited January 22, 2016 by dot
Athlonic Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Apple's innovation, as usual ... right ? ^^ HW : 4790K @4.6 / GTX 1080ti 11GB / 16 GB / Asus ROG Formula VI / Acer Predator 32" 4K Gsync / X-55 Rhino / Oculus Rift-S / TrackIR Combined Arms/Supercarrier/Nevada TTR/Persian Gulf/Normandy F-16C/FA-18C/AV-8B Harrier/F5-TigerII/SA342-Gazelle/M2000-C/L-39 Albatros/C-101/MiG-21/F-86F Sabre/Mi-8MTV2/UH-1H Huey/A-10C Warthog/Black Shark 2/Flaming Cliff 3/Hawk T1A(RIP) WWII : Spitfire/Bf-109 Kurfurst/Fw-190 Dora/P-51D Mustang
=DECOY= Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Apple's virtual reality plans revealed: Firm hires industry expert in bid to take on Oculus and Google http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3412811/Apple-s-virtual-reality-plans-revealed-Firm-hires-industry-expert-bid-Oculus.html for once they are really late to the party, unless they can bring something out quickly and really cheap. they shouldn't bother Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2
Krupi Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 for once they are really late to the party, unless they can bring something out quickly and really cheap. they shouldn't bother For once.... They are constantly copying and refining old technology and seemingly manage to make everyone believe that they invented it! :noexpression: Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 for once they are really late to the party, unless they can bring something out quickly and really cheap. they shouldn't bother I wouldn't be so sure. Both OR and Vive have limited resolution screens; certainly nowhere near a "retina display" level, and that's what the goal should really be. If Apple can develop a higher quality display then they've differentiated themselves from the competition.
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