SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) I don't know what is the point of buying CV1 if you got DK2? The increase of performanse is not that big at all. Basically you go from 400PPI to 460PPI screen solution for 600$, in EU for 750€. Upgrade kit with new screen 2560x1440 530PPI cost 250$ and ofer much more gain 1280x1440 resolution per eye. I think this could be better option for DK2 owners than buying new CV1. it's more than that TBH from seeing posts from friends. Also, the Toshiba TC358779XBG MIPI / DSI Controller Chip in the DK2 wouldnt support that resolution. it supports up to1920x1080, 24 bpp, IE Here's the Chart I Posted Earlier, Updated Based off MIPI DSI Model: [TABLE] MODEL | TOTAL RES. | PER EYE | PPI | Maximum Res. Screen Supported | NOTES DK1 | 1280x 800 | 640x 800 | Px Density of 215 PPI | 1920x1080 |Single 7' Display HDP | 1920x1080 | 960x1080 | Px Density of 314 PPI | 1920x1080 |* DK1 w/ HD1080P 7' Screen CCP | 1920x1080 | 960x1080 | Px Density of 388 PPI | 1920x1080 | *Early DK2 Prototype w/ 1080P 5.5' OLED Screen, Introduced new Tracking System DK2 | 1920x1080 | 960x1080 | Px Density of 386 PPI | 1920x1080 | *Screen Assembly from Samsung Note 3, 5.7' 1080P, Retains New Tracking System, Removed Ext. Control Box CBPA | 2560x1440 | 1280x1400 | Px Density of 543 PPI | 3840x2160 | *Rumored Specs, Never Publicly Stated, Introduces New Lenses and Dual 3.5' Screen Arrangement CBPB | 2160x1200 | 1080x1200 | Px Density of 456 PPI | 3840x2160 |*Rumored Specs, Never Publicly Stated, Introduces New Lenses and Dual 3.5' Screen Arrangement CV1 | 2160x1200 | 1080x1200 | Px Density of 456 PPI | 3840x2160 |New Lenses and Screen Setup from CBP, Clearer Retail Assembly, Less Hot Glue [/TABLE] from People I've talked to that moved from DK2 to CV1 already: - Clearer Picture, Easier to Read smaller Fonts / See Smaller Details / Extremely Reduced SDE. - Better Tracking - Better Vision w/ New Lenses - Lighter / More Comfortable Now, DK2 is a 5.7 Screen Divided in half with some centerline Px not being used. Per eye is more like 945/1080 CBP / CV1 use separate screen w/ Dust Sealed Shrouds to Each 3.5 Inch Screen w/ a PPI of 456 Each. Edited April 1, 2016 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
ED Team Glowing_Amraam Posted April 1, 2016 ED Team Posted April 1, 2016 Not to mention that the CV 1 is also more comfortable to wear. Plus the camera has a wider FOV for tracking. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgJRhtnqA-67pKmQ3A2GsgA ED youtube channel https://www.facebook.com/glowingamraam My facebook page
dot Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I don't know what is the point of buying CV1 if you got DK2? The increase of performanse is not that big at all. Basically you go from 400PPI to 460PPI screen solution for 600$, in EU for 750€. Upgrade kit with new screen 2560x1440 530PPI cost 250$ and ofer much more gain 1280x1440 resolution per eye. I think this could be better option for DK2 owners than buying new CV1. Where can you buy a 2560x1440, 250$ upgrade screen for DK2? Is it also 75 hz?
SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Where can you buy a 2560x1440, 250$ upgrade screen for DK2? Is it also 75 hz? I seriously doubt it's work, the Ribbon Cable will be incompatible w/ the MiPI DSI Board in the DK2. And the MiPI DSi Board for that resolution is a goof $150 by itself, for 60Hz. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Frusheen Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 http://techfrag.com/2016/03/31/oculus-rift-side-effects-include-oculus-face-and-rift-rash/ I speculate this is not a big problem, but I would love an opinion from someone who has used the CV1 for hours at a time. Absolutely is not a problem. New video from tested addresses it as well as a lot of other things. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051
SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) http://techfrag.com/2016/03/31/oculus-rift-side-effects-include-oculus-face-and-rift-rash/ I speculate this is not a big problem, but I would love an opinion from someone who has used the CV1 for hours at a time. Lol, Cant be any worse than my Hockey Helmet and Helmet Hair.. Which I wear for about 12 Hours combined on the Weekends alone: Edited April 1, 2016 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
dot Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I seriously doubt it's work, the Ribbon Cable will be incompatible w/ the MiPI DSI Board in the DK2. And the MiPI DSi Board for that resolution is a goof $150 by itself, for 60Hz. Yeah, it sounded too good to be true...
_Acoustic_ Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Another addition we'll need. Pretty sweet. [ame] [/ame]
dot Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Eve Valkyrie review: http://www.destructoid.com/review-eve-valkyrie-350672.phtml
Frusheen Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Another addition we'll need. Pretty sweet. Samsung announced a set of headphones with similar tech a while back. Maybe it will appear in CV2! __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051
KLR Rico Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I had a hard time adjusting the CV1 to be both comfortable and clear. I eventually got a good position and was able to play P3D for an hour straight, but I still think it's a little off. At one point while I was trying to find the sweet spot, I took a minute to dig around in the box some more to see if there were extra "facial interfaces" that might be a better fit (there aren't any). As far as "rift face" goes, I'm not worried or surprised. You'd get the same thing wearing ski goggles all day. i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
cichlidfan Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 As far as "rift face" goes, I'm not worried or surprised. You'd get the same thing wearing ski goggles all day. Everyone, in my college chemistry classes, had 'rift face' on a regular basis. :lol: ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
j0nx Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Read today that people who are supposed to get a March delivery haven't even received their 1-3 week shipping email yet. Oculus is apparently being very tight lipped about their shipping issues and a lot of folks are not happy as you can imagine. At this point it's anyone's guess as to when you will receive your rift. There's some kind of delay that they aren't fessing up to seems to be the general consensus on the reddit forums. Not good... ROTORCRAFT RULE GB Aorus Ultra Z390| 8700K @ 4.9GHz | 32 GB DDR4 3000 | MSI GTX 1080ti | Corsair 1000HX | Silverstone FT02-WRI | Nvidia 3D Vision Surround | Windows 10 Professional X64 Volair Sim Cockpit, Rift S, Saitek X-55 HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, Microsoft FF2, OE-XAM Bell 206 Collective, C-Tek anti-torque pedals UH-1, SA342, Mi-8, KA50, AV8B, P-51D, A-10C, L39, F86, Yak, NS-430, Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf
SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Everyone, in my college chemistry classes, had 'rift face' on a regular basis. :lol: My Middle school class as well, we had to buy those $8 green safety goggles, I hit up ebay and bought a case of 100 for $150 and re-sold them for $5 each. and got suspended for 7 days for "unethical abuse of students trust" or some crap, I think they were just hurt that I undercut their price by $3/Unit and still made $350 Profit on the exact same item. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
LuSi_6 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 todays open beta: Oculus 1.3 support? :pilotfly: Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pedals, Oculus Rift :joystick:
Brainling Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Got my Rift today and got it all setup. DCS World still doesn't appear to be working with "direct mode" :( So you have to do the extended monitor stuff to make DCS run on the Rift right now, unless I'm missing something.
SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Got my Rift today and got it all setup. DCS World still doesn't appear to be working with "direct mode" :( So you have to do the extended monitor stuff to make DCS run on the Rift right now, unless I'm missing something. DCS Has not been updated to the 1.3 Release Version Runtimes yet... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
vracan Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Got my Rift today and got it all setup. DCS World still doesn't appear to be working with "direct mode" :( So you have to do the extended monitor stuff to make DCS run on the Rift right now, unless I'm missing something. To go back to extended mode would you not have to uninstall oc drvr 1.3 and re-install 0.5/0.6??
Brainling Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 To go back to extended mode would you not have to uninstall oc drvr 1.3 and re-install 0.5/0.6?? No idea, I've had my Rift for 45 minutes, and never had a DK2. I guess I'm waiting for them to update to the 1.3 runtime if that's the case :(
vracan Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 No idea, I've had my Rift for 45 minutes, and never had a DK2. I guess I'm waiting for them to update to the 1.3 runtime if that's the case :( Yeah guess I'll have to wait too cuz I don't want to go back to judder!
Mango Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 The more I read, the less enthused I am. Guess the good old TrackIR will be sticking around on my monitor for another year or so. ;)
Chivas Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 FOV....there is a big debate in reddit about the difference in FOV between the Rift and Vive. Measurements are showing the Vive having a wider and higher FOV measurement, while in practice its harder to see much difference in FOV of the two headsets. With most accredited reviewers suggesting its a non-issue. The probable reason that people aren't seeing much of difference is they both could have the same viewable area. The circular viewing area of the Vive might be a little wider and higher, but it loses viewing area with no corner quadrants, that the more square viewing area of the Rift has. I've received the 1 to 3 week email, but haven't bought into the rumoured Oculus ineptitude in the shipping department. Thousands of units have already been shipped, and received, with thousands more being readied for shipment. People's impatience, not knowing exactly where they stand in the queue has got the best of them, not mention peoples love for conspiracies. In other news, Team Fusion and Cliffs of Dover are now suggesting that their Version 5.0 update could have Oculus Rift support. They've reiterated that there are no promises as there are still issues that have to be fixed, like the sims ability to Zoom IN and OUT that could conflict with OR implementation. The update is still scheduled for sometime this summer, and its going to be huge.
ED Team NineLine Posted April 1, 2016 ED Team Posted April 1, 2016 The more I read, the less enthused I am. Guess the good old TrackIR will be sticking around on my monitor for another year or so. ;) I said the same thing until I got to try a DK2 version flying the Me 109K-4, now the only thing holding me back is the Canadian Dollar and the wife's hold on the funds :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
vracan Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I said the same thing until I got to try a DK2 version flying the Me 109K-4, now the only thing holding me back is the Canadian Dollar and the wife's hold on the funds :) Same here!
vracan Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 The more I read, the less enthused I am. Guess the good old TrackIR will be sticking around on my monitor for another year or so. ;) I suggest then you don't try one (even with the issues they still have today)!... cuz once you do..theres n.o. g.o.i.n.g. b.a.c.k....
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