Mike Busutil Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 Is there somewhere I can find the settings for MAX Graphics Settings? Or is this just as simple as setting my options to "High"? Thanks for any info :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
Mike Busutil Posted September 5, 2012 Author Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) I just got a new system and would like to see if it can keep up at MAX settings.... Anyone have any thoughts on this setup? Specs: Base Unit: Dell Mobile Precision M6700 Processor: 3rd Gen Intel Core i7-3920XM(Extreme 2.9GHz. Memory: 32.0GB, DDR3-1600MHz SDRAM, 4 DIMM. Keyboard: Internal Backlit English Keyboard. Video Card: NVIDIA Quadro K5000M with 4GB GDDR5. Hard Drive: 512GB 2.5" (SATA3) Mobility Solid State Drive. Display: 17.3" UltraSharp FHD (1920x1080) 3D Vision Pro. Operating System: Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit. Operating System: Windows 7 Edited December 23, 2013 by Mike Busutil [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
joey45 Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 I have no idea if there is a hidden tweak in the lua files... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Cookie Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 Anyone have any thoughts on this setup? I have never heard of that video card, the rest of your system should be fine though. Check out my system specs (behind the spoiler in my sig), it is somewhat similar to yours and I run absolutely everything at max (except for the engines´s heat blur, which I personally don´t like) and pretty much never go below 40 frames even with a lot of stuff going on around me. Under normal conditions 100+ frames is quite normal, so your system should be running the sim just fine as well. - Two miles of road lead nowhere, two miles of runway lead everywhere - Click here for system specs
ED Team NineLine Posted September 5, 2012 ED Team Posted September 5, 2012 Its a workstation video card, suited more for CAD applications and such... not sure how well it will do with computer sims and games. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
lrdangel Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 Go to the link below, I linked the page where PeterP talks about his solution and I believe has a sample file to download that I am using. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=71639&page=10 Otherwise start from page 1 and read through the threads for more information but PeterP refers to DCS World. This modification does help increase max visibility without losing too many frames. Hope this helps! ~ LA ~ LA [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core Haswell i5-4670K OC @ 4.2GHz | Asus Z87-Plus mobo | 16GB DDR3 @ 1600 Ram | Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 OC w/ 8GB memory | Oculus Rift w/ Touch Controllers | 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD | Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack | Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG |Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | TrackIR 4 Clip | Helios Black Knights Squadron Member
Mike Busutil Posted September 5, 2012 Author Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) I was told this video card would have ZERO problems running this sim. But I would like to be the last word on that... At $2400 for a video card It shouldn't have a problem! http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-k5000.html#pdpContent=1 Edited September 5, 2012 by Mike Busutil [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
Cookie Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 2400 bucks? Holy cow.... :shocking: That´s more than I paid for my entire system... - Two miles of road lead nowhere, two miles of runway lead everywhere - Click here for system specs
joey45 Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) I was told this video card would have ZERO problems running this sim... Who by?? :lol: That's a dedicated workstation GFX* card and a bit overkill for a gaming rig. *Those GFX cards are mainly used by people who work in programs like 3DS Max/ Cinema 4D and probably video editing software aswel. Dramatically improves geometry performance across a broad range of CAD, DCC and medical applications, enabling you to work interactively with models and scenes that are an order of magnitude more complex than ever before. Unless you are a 3D artist then great. But a Nvidia 680 / AMD 7979** would of been better. **no idea what the AMDs one are.. Edited September 5, 2012 by joey45 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Mike Busutil Posted September 5, 2012 Author Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Yeah I don't know about any of that. :D I just told Dell I want the top of the line labtop maxed out to run my sims without any FPS issues. They were happy to take my money. :joystick: Oh, I do kick ass at Adobe After effects.... Edited September 5, 2012 by Mike Busutil [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
joey45 Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 If you didn't need or want it you could complain and get some money back. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Mike Busutil Posted September 5, 2012 Author Posted September 5, 2012 If it's as awesome as they make it out to be I'll be pretty happy with it. I am looking forward to the DCS Mig 21 so I know full throttle with that beast will put a little strain on the FPS, I want to be prepared so I went all out with this PC :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
Geert Hooghe Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I have never heard of that video card, the rest of your system should be fine though. Check out my system specs (behind the spoiler in my sig), it is somewhat similar to yours and I run absolutely everything at max (except for the engines´s heat blur, which I personally don´t like) and pretty much never go below 40 frames even with a lot of stuff going on around me. Under normal conditions 100+ frames is quite normal, so your system should be running the sim just fine as well. Question : is there a way to actually see the framerate when in game ? Thnx
winchesterdelta1 Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Yeah I don't know about any of that. :D I just told Dell I want the top of the line labtop maxed out to run my sims without any FPS issues. They were happy to take my money. :joystick: Oh, I do kick ass at Adobe After effects.... That’s the reason i left Dell... My co-workers there did this to all customers just to get a additional bonus. I'm refusing to sell people computers/hardware they totally don’t need for the type of work/games they do on it. Never ever tell a computer company like Dell that you want a top of the line PC and you have enough money. They will scr*w you over big time. If people calling me they ask for a honest opinion because they can’t know everything about computers. And i will never ever miss use that just to make some stupid bonus. Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer.
Mike Busutil Posted September 6, 2012 Author Posted September 6, 2012 Sooooo Are you saying with the specs I have on that computer I got "Screwed over big time"? I just need it to smoothly play DCS.... I did pay alot for this system ($5,472.03 ) but I have had many computers in the past that was "Just enough" or not good enough for my sims and they sucked, so this time I wanted to get more computer than I needed. If it turns out this setup has a hard time with DCS which I doubt, I know I will have fun playing Farmville at max settings with it! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
HiJack Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Question : is there a way to actually see the framerate when in game ? Thnx Yes. RCTRL + PAUSE Shows more statistics when pressing the key sequence once more. (HJ)
lokitexas Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Sooooo Are you saying with the specs I have on that computer I got "Screwed over big time"? I just need it to smoothly play DCS.... I did pay alot for this system ($5,472.03 ) but I have had many computers in the past that was "Just enough" or not good enough for my sims and they sucked, so this time I wanted to get more computer than I needed. If it turns out this setup has a hard time with DCS which I doubt, I know I will have fun playing Farmville at max settings with it! :D The fact that someone sold you a workstation GPU, for gaming, is very suspect in my book. Even if you went top of the line in GPU with say a 690GTX, you would have saved over $1000 dollars. Thats a new joystick, monitors, trackir, and headphones, etc. etc. If you do a little research, you can see that a beast of a gaming PC can be built for sub $1500. It sounds like the guy who sold it to you either doesnt know about a gaming PC, and just looked up the most pricy "Graphics Card", or knew he could get away with it. So to sum up, unless you are doing intense CAD work or other productivity on a large scale, yes, you got screwed. i5 3570k @ 4.3 560ti GTX 2gig 8gig RAM Intel SSD Win7 64bit
KLR Rico Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Yeah, unless you have workstation requirements, you won't gain anything from a workstation gfx card. They're virtually identical to their gaming counterparts, but they are manufactured from the best components in a production run to provide the most stability possible, along with carefully developed drivers (also to ensure stability). I'm gaming on an old workstation and one of the first things I did was sell the nvidia quadro to buy a standard gaming card. i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
Aries Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 A little on performance of this Quadro K5000M card: http://web.eurocom.com/ec/ec_GetReleaseB(142) On this up link it says this: "NVIDIA Quadro K5000M Benchmarks in EUROCOM Panther 3.0: 3DMark11 (1280x1024): P4329 3DMark Vantage (1280x1024): P20139 Unigine Heaven 2.1 FPS (1920x1080): 45.8 Unigine Heaven 2.1 Score (1920x1080): 1154 CineBench 11.5 OpenGL Test (fps): 70.2" And on this one: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000M.76905.0.html it says: Performance "The performance should be above at the level of the older Quadro 5010M and more or less similar to a GTX 680M (gaming)." And here is a pic of a 3DMark Vantage Performance Preset score comparison: So if we consider the P score, it's like close to a GTX 570, maybe a little stronger... ...make the conclusion youselves... :smartass: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining...
Geert Hooghe Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Yes. RCTRL + PAUSE Shows more statistics when pressing the key sequence once more. (HJ) :thumbup:
fzfq3m Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 The fact that someone sold you a workstation GPU, for gaming, is very suspect in my book. Even if you went top of the line in GPU with say a 690GTX, you would have saved over $1000 dollars. Thats a new joystick, monitors, trackir, and headphones, etc. etc. If you do a little research, you can see that a beast of a gaming PC can be built for sub $1500. It sounds like the guy who sold it to you either doesnt know about a gaming PC, and just looked up the most pricy "Graphics Card", or knew he could get away with it. So to sum up, unless you are doing intense CAD work or other productivity on a large scale, yes, you got screwed. +1 For about the same price he could have bought an Alienware M18x with Dual Geforce GTX680M and enjoy it with games that are SLI enabled... or if the laptop is just for DCS then save money by buying it with only one GTX680M and spend the rest in something else. AFAIK both the Quadro K5000M and the Geforce GTX680M are based on Kepler's GK104 chip so they are almost the same card, but the former is more expensive becuase they have a special support service and a driver optimized for stability and performance in 3D CAD (as previously stated by other forum's users) Anyway, if you cann't return it then enjoy it... Compuer Specs Intel Core i7 920 D0 @2.6Ghz Asus P6T7 WS rev2 6GB Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 2xHP 300GB 10K SAS RAID 1 Corsair AX1200 Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 3GB Water Cooling Specs: Koolance CPU-360 Koolance ASP6T7WS 2xSwiftech MCP655 with EK D5 Dual Top 1xBlack Ice GT S 360 XFlow 1xPhobya Xtreme 400 Tubing:Tygon 2001 1/2" 2xBitfenix Spectre Pro 230mm Swiftech MCres Rev1
Mike Busutil Posted September 6, 2012 Author Posted September 6, 2012 Soooooooooooo If a graphics card like the K5000M is a High end card optimized for stability and performance in professional applications like CAD or DCC, OpenGL performance. Why would running a flight sim be a problem? Or are you just saying it is a good graphics card but I just paid too much for it and it's over kill? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
PeterP Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Running a flight Sim is no problem. Yo will be fine. But look at it like this: You went to a car-seller to buy a car that can transport a little more. - so a pick-up would be ideal. But he sold you a truck for 30tons.
Aries Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Soooooooooooo If a graphics card like the K5000M is a High end card optimized for stability and performance in professional applications like CAD or DCC, OpenGL performance. Why would running a flight sim be a problem? Or are you just saying it is a good graphics card but I just paid too much for it and it's over kill? It's not overkill... by the scores... http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4269814 Take it back if you can and insert a GTX 680M if you can, enjoy the 2000$ or less that remain... :smilewink: Edited September 6, 2012 by Aries [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining...
fzfq3m Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Soooooooooooo If a graphics card like the K5000M is a High end card optimized for stability and performance in professional applications like CAD or DCC, OpenGL performance. Why would running a flight sim be a problem? Or are you just saying it is a good graphics card but I just paid too much for it and it's over kill? It's not like you will have problems running games on the Quadro, what we are trying to say is that they sold you a GFX that is optimized for a different thing than gaming and is about twice expensive... Quadro's are more stable and have better support... yes... but they are not certified for gaming As a "simple" example: Let's suppose that the latest and greatest <put your favorite game tittle here> suffers from a performance drop (or FPS drop) due to an issue in the geforce driver with the Geforce GTX680M... there will be geforce users complaining about it and Nvidia will have solve the problem asap because the Geforce is their "gaming product". In other hand if the same issue is suffered with the Quadro's driver well, Nvidia can just reply to the issue something like: Quadro's are not meant to be used for gaming and we will not be adding gaming optimizations to Quadro's drivers Anyway, take what I stated before with a bit grain of salt. I have no relationship with Nvidia or Dell and I'm not computer guru... but I'm quite sure they sold a laptop that is not for gaming... regards Compuer Specs Intel Core i7 920 D0 @2.6Ghz Asus P6T7 WS rev2 6GB Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 2xHP 300GB 10K SAS RAID 1 Corsair AX1200 Nvidia Geforce GTX 580 3GB Water Cooling Specs: Koolance CPU-360 Koolance ASP6T7WS 2xSwiftech MCP655 with EK D5 Dual Top 1xBlack Ice GT S 360 XFlow 1xPhobya Xtreme 400 Tubing:Tygon 2001 1/2" 2xBitfenix Spectre Pro 230mm Swiftech MCres Rev1
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