no news on other WW2 addons?

[porky_pig]

I never saw anything of the sort.

Just because you didnt see it, doesnt mean it wasnt.

[PFunk1606688187]

Just because you didnt see it, doesnt mean it wasnt.

 

Awesome!

 

So, tell me, how far along is HL2 Episode 3?

[porky_pig]

Awesome!

 

So, tell me, how far along is HL2 Episode 3?

That an episode of Star Wars? Because Im not a Steven Spielberg fan.

[Echo38]

That an episode of Star Wars? Because Im not a Steven Spielberg fan.

 

Ha-ha, nice! : D

[Echo38]

Just because you didnt see it, doesnt mean it wasnt.

 

Well, until a link is provided, this is just a rumor. (I did a forum search and found nothing, by the way.)

 

I am just of the preference that ED should make a modern fighter a priority, because they do such great work, and I am not sure if others can match them.

 

It is precisely because of the fact that E.D. does such great work that I would prefer that they make it a priority to recreate a fighter from the 1940s or '50s. I don't trust any third parties to get it right, because I've been in the flight sim world for twenty-four years, and so far E.D.'s just about the only developer I've seen which hasn't screwed things up horribly. WWII fighters are ever so much more exciting than modern jet fighters; if nothing else, WWII fighters take so much more flying skill to fly. These and other reasons are why I would much rather see E.D. make a WWII fighter.

 

That an episode of Star Wars? Because Im not a Steven Spielberg fan.

 

Ha-ha, nice! : D

Edited November 14, 2012 by Echo38

[porky_pig]

Well, until a link is provided, this is just a rumor. (I did a forum search and found nothing, by the way.)

You ever watch Breaking Bad? In the words of Saul Goodman, "Lets just say I know a friend, who knows a friend...who knows a friend." Just act surprised when they do announce it. :thumbup: And if the concept of the F-86 seems irrelevant, just remember that out of the blue they did the Mustang, then the UH-1H. Its more than feasible.

[hegykc]

Also, I don't see any WWII sim fans speaking against a modern jet, yet almost all of the modern jet fans are against a WWII plane being developed, even though they said a separate team developed the P-51 and it didn't take away any resources from the modern jet development.

 

Have you modern jet fans even tried flying the p-51, or dogfighting in another WWII plane in COD maybe? When you see how much skills it takes just to keep it on optimal power settings, or flying it without breaking it, I don't think you'd be all that much against a WWII plane. I won't even mention the gunnery skills one needs to develop to hit a moving target, without a gyro sight even...

[104th_Crunch]

Also, I don't see any WWII sim fans speaking against a modern jet, yet almost all of the modern jet fans are against a WWII plane being developed, even though they said a separate team developed the P-51 and it didn't take away any resources from the modern jet development.

 

Have you modern jet fans even tried flying the p-51, or dogfighting in another WWII plane in COD maybe? When you see how much skills it takes just to keep it on optimal power settings, or flying it without breaking it, I don't think you'd be all that much against a WWII plane. I won't even mention the gunnery skills one needs to develop to hit a moving target, without a gyro sight even...

 

Many people, like me, enjoy combat aviation from all eras. I don't think that this is so much about different groups of people going against each other. You're right though, there are people who prefer one over the other. Really it takes skill for any era of combat simulation. On the flip side, BVR is not about pressing a button to shot a missle, and you are done. There is a ton of tactics behind successful BVR, just as much as WVR.

 

Those of us that have bought every ED release since Flanker 1, and then bought LOMAC, were ecstatic when the concept of DCS was announced, however many years ago. We have had to wait through the releases of Ka-50, A-10C, P-51D, FC2 and FC3. All these releases with no DCS Modern Fighter. That is why there is a little impatience, regardless of parallel work.

 

Now I love all those releases, and bought every last one of them, but when you look at what has been released, why should there be another DCS level WWII era plane from ED, when one has been released and yet there is no modern jet? I am sure in time, there will be lots for all, and I look forward to the future.

[NineLine]

Well, until a link is provided, this is just a rumor. (I did a forum search and found nothing, by the way.)

 

This is a good mindset, I mean I watch shows on TV saying there is bigfoot running around the woods, but I havent seen one yet so I am going to wait till some one captures one :)

[Spetz]

I posted this ages ago and it does not indicate that there is any new WW2 aircraft being made, BUT, looking at the shadows and lighting if the picture, it was almost 100% taken within game. Hopefully this just arrives on our doorstep at some point..

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1558519&postcount=29

[Echo38]

Actually, official word is: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1578574&postcount=174

[leafer]

Many people, like me, enjoy combat aviation from all eras. I don't think that this is so much about different groups of people going against each other. You're right though, there are people who prefer one over the other. Really it takes skill for any era of combat simulation. On the flip side, BVR is not about pressing a button to shot a missle, and you are done. There is a ton of tactics behind successful BVR, just as much as WVR.

 

Those of us that have bought every ED release since Flanker 1, and then bought LOMAC, were ecstatic when the concept of DCS was announced, however many years ago. We have had to wait through the releases of Ka-50, A-10C, P-51D, FC2 and FC3. All these releases with no DCS Modern Fighter. That is why there is a little impatience, regardless of parallel work.

 

Now I love all those releases, and bought every last one of them, but when you look at what has been released, why should there be another DCS level WWII era plane from ED, when one has been released and yet there is no modern jet? I am sure in time, there will be lots for all, and I look forward to the future.

 

May I remind you all

 

Wags,

 

5- The next US fixed wing jet DCS aircraft is being worked on in parallel.

 

I don't see modern in there.

[Echo38]

I do hope the next E.D. jet is indeed the Saber! That would be way cooler than anything made after the Korean War.

[leafer]

I do hope the next E.D. jet is indeed the Saber! That would be way cooler than anything made after the Korean War.

 

You and me both, brother. Sad news is the "modern" mob is going to level all of ED bases hence no Mig-15 module. :(

[mjeh]

Actually, official word is: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1578574&postcount=174

 

 

Keep in mind though, this post talks about - AI aircraft -

[nick10]

Wot about those b-17s we saw?

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

There would be nice with some more WWII aricrafts but I think the battle for the customers is lost now to the IL2 BoB.

 

(HJ)

 

i dont think so...im coming from IL2 CLOD,....maddox games seems to be dead.

so is their sim..ähhm game i mean.

and exactly here is the big difference....in my honest opinion, if DCS,ED would produce more WWII warbirds, people would soon switch.

 

i just did, even although i dont even really like the P51.i just switched, because IL2 CLOD, feels just like a kids toy compared to DCS sims.

if DCS,ED would produce 1 german fighter, an oponent for the P51,...then i honestly think that masses would switch from IL2 to DCS and never look back again.i think a 109 or 190 would be a big seller!

DCS,ED are the only guys who offer real simulators and not games.they seem to be the only ones out there, who have the knowledge and skill to produce real sims....so they should have the balls to make WWII sims as well.im really convinced, that they would succeed big time, and crush their oponents with ease, only with adding 1 oponent for the P51.better two planes realistically simulated, than a docent half arsed, bugged toys, where you hit the I button to start the engine.

 

 

EDIT: oh and dont get me wrong,...what i meant is, i never liked the P51 up until now....learning to fly and even start up this crate in this sim, is the most immersive experience ive ever had in a pc simulation.thx ED!in fact its the first sim i fly :)

Edited November 30, 2012 by 9./JG27 DavidRed

[hegykc]

i dont think so...im coming from IL2 CLOD,....maddox games seems to be dead.

 

+1

 

And with the communication as it is, it's like they're trying to run the customers away.

[billeinstein]

At least the CloD have a better water effect and bomb effect.

[Cedaway]

so is their sim..ähhm game i mean.

and exactly here is the big difference....in my honest opinion, if DCS,ED would produce more WWII warbirds, people would soon switch.

 

The answer is in your statement: It's a sim, not (only) a game. And it's very complicated and time consuming to produce such detailed aircraft as the P-51d.

As you can read across the forum, there are MANY projects to be implemented into DCS-World (1st and 3rd parties) but those need time to be completed and validated before release.

 

For exemple of what projects are under development, check this thread

(Unofficial List of Upcoming DCS Aircraft)

 

You can check the advance of all the projects in the 'Third Party Projects' part of the forum.

The most advanced one seems to be the DCS: Mig-21bis by Beczl (also has its own website)

 

On an other hand, ED is continuously updating their product (with a great follow-up) and current projects are:

- A 'U.S. fixed wing jet' (unknown by now) at DCS level

Commonly reads for 'DCS level' of fidelity: Advanced Flight Model, 6DOF pit, Fully clickable pit, all systems fully simulated (hydraulics, electric, system and sub-system dependencies, fuel management, electronics,...), enhanced 3D model with all moving parts animated,...

By now, those aircraft are called "'DCS: (aircraft)'" as opposed with "'Aircraft' for DCS World" (Simple Flight Model, non clickable pit,...)

 

- A whole new rendering engine coming along with the upcoming Nevada map. (No estimated time to release so far)

 

 

EDIT: And Welcome aboard:)

Edited November 30, 2012 by Cedaway

[recoilfx]

i dont think so...im coming from IL2 CLOD,....maddox games seems to be dead.

so is their sim..ähhm game i mean.

and exactly here is the big difference....in my honest opinion, if DCS,ED would produce more WWII warbirds, people would soon switch.

 

i just did, even although i dont even really like the P51.i just switched, because IL2 CLOD, feels just like a kids toy compared to DCS sims.

if DCS,ED would produce 1 german fighter, an oponent for the P51,...then i honestly think that masses would switch from IL2 to DCS and never look back again.i think a 109 or 190 would be a big seller!

DCS,ED are the only guys who offer real simulators and not games.they seem to be the only ones out there, who have the knowledge and skill to produce real sims....so they should have the balls to make WWII sims as well.im really convinced, that they would succeed big time, and crush their oponents with ease, only with adding 1 oponent for the P51.better two planes realistically simulated, than a docent half arsed, bugged toys, where you hit the I button to start the engine.

 

 

EDIT: oh and dont get me wrong,...what i meant is, i never liked the P51 up until now....learning to fly and even start up this crate in this sim, is the most immersive experience ive ever had in a pc simulation.thx ED!in fact its the first sim i fly :)

 

 

Actually, we have a pretty good active community at ATAG, we regularly have more people flying Cliffs of Dover than ALL the servers combined at DCS, at least for eastern US night hours. For the Russians, there is the Repka 4 server which is usually packed too at the other time zone....

 

For the whole multiplayer package, CloD is pretty good. I don't know when DCS will get there, though I wish for soon.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

well honestly you dont have to tell me about CLOD.i know it too good.

and dont tell me about atag.unfortunately so far its the only popular server, cause their missions are cr..(in my view)

the good thing is, we have the storm of war campaign.

in CLOD weather is not working, even the few clouds, which still cause serious stutter, are a joke, as you see contacts through them.

 

on rebka, as soon as there are more than 15people online, serious lags and stutters and warping planes are the result.

 

contacts disappear in midranges....

the list of this mess goes on...

 

for my taste, two years after release, and 6years of development, this game has far too many game braking bugs.im sick of it.and im sick of hitting the I button.especially now that i can experience a real sim.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

The answer is in your statement: It's a sim, not (only) a game. And it's very complicated and time consuming to produce such detailed aircraft as the P-51d.

As you can read across the forum, there are MANY projects to be implemented into DCS-World (1st and 3rd parties) but those need time to be completed and validated before release.

 

For exemple of what projects are under development, check this thread

(Unofficial List of Upcoming DCS Aircraft)

 

You can check the advance of all the projects in the 'Third Party Projects' part of the forum.

The most advanced one seems to be the DCS: Mig-21bis by Beczl (also has its own website)

 

On an other hand, ED is continuously updating their product (with a great follow-up) and current projects are:

- A 'U.S. fixed wing jet' (unknown by now) at DCS level

Commonly reads for 'DCS level' of fidelity: Advanced Flight Model, 6DOF pit, Fully clickable pit, all systems fully simulated (hydraulics, electric, system and sub-system dependencies, fuel management, electronics,...), enhanced 3D model with all moving parts animated,...

By now, those aircraft are called "'DCS: (aircraft)'" as opposed with "'Aircraft' for DCS World" (Simple Flight Model, non clickable pit,...)

 

- A whole new rendering engine coming along with the upcoming Nevada map. (No estimated time to release so far)

 

 

EDIT: And Welcome aboard:)

 

thx!:)

 

and thx for the links as well!

 

and i agree with everything you said, and i dont say that DCS should rush their products out of the door too early...all i say is, i would love to see a 109 or 190 in DCS....then 1c would never see me again as a customer i think.

[recoilfx]

well honestly you dont have to tell me about CLOD.i know it too good.

and dont tell me about atag.unfortunately so far its the only popular server, cause their missions are cr..(in my view)

the good thing is, we have the storm of war campaign.

in CLOD weather is not working, even the few clouds, which still cause serious stutter, are a joke, as you see contacts through them.

 

on rebka, as soon as there are more than 15people online, serious lags and stutters and warping planes are the result.

 

contacts disappear in midranges....

the list of this mess goes on...

 

for my taste, two years after release, and 6years of development, this game has far too many game braking bugs.im sick of it.and im sick of hitting the I button.especially now that i can experience a real sim.

 

heh, sounds like I touched a nerve there... Of course, it's not every one's cup of tea, but my point was it's not as dead as you were pointing out initially, and still caters to many people (just not you), and in fact active still.

[HiJack]

i dont think so...im coming from IL2 CLOD,....maddox games seems to be dead.

so is their sim..ähhm game i mean.

and exactly here is the big difference....in my honest opinion, if DCS,ED would produce more WWII warbirds, people would soon switch.

That's good to know and I sure hope there will be more WWII aircrafts to make a good fight but as others point out there is a need for other map's than the Caucasus one also. Making a new map is a big big project! But it's allowed to hope :D

 

Jack