Zomba Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Is there any way to disable trimmer for the pedals so it behaves the same way the Huey does in that regard? I don't test for bugs, but when I do I do it in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I would like to know as well. Anyone? i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmp Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yup, it would be awesome if I could do that. That's how I have my huey trimmer set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 +1 :thumbup: In the Shark I really liked the rudder being trimmed along with the cyclic, but ever since I've flown the Huey that feels sooo weird. Would be great if there was an option just to disable/enable this feature just like with the Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 there is no rudder trim on Mi-8 I think. The pedals return to center... Only Autopilot has some authority. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Central pedestal, AFCS control panel. Three green lights. The first from the left is AFCS YAW ON OFF. Green light off, no YAW trim. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Can anyone confirm this? Haven't bought the Hip yet but would like to know before I do. EDIT: Sniped by mirmidon. I guess that confirms it. Edited September 5, 2013 by IonicRipper i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Yes you can control the trim selections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) So if I understand correctly, the AFCS defines which controls you can trim? Edited September 6, 2013 by IonicRipper i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboHog Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Central pedestal, AFCS control panel. Three green lights. The first from the left is AFCS YAW ON OFF. Green light off, no YAW trim. But rudder is still affected by force trim... This is only the heading autopilot channel. 'Frett' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker0ne Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The PeterP's method??? He call it "Unchain Rudder from Trim". It is for Ka-50 but maybe is ok also for the Mi-8. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Some people are saying there's rudder trimming, some say there's not... Which one is it? i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboHog Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I do what mirmidon sais (you want to turn it of anyway if you are manoeuvring): I deflect my rudder, hit the trimmer and the rudder stays there. So because my physical rudder does not have force feedback I have to center it quickly or the helicopter will be over the place. 'Frett' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 All I can tell you is that in effect the trimmer on the MI-8 feels like the operation of the Huey not like the KA-50. You relieve the pressure required on the stick but you retain full control. You can still operate the pedals and alter roll and pitch easily at will. Stick will re-center to your last trim position till you re-trim. It does not "feel" like an "autopilot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Problem is, with rudder pedals, its really annoying to have to recenter the pedals after trimming. i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) The rudder pedals are not necessarily affected by the trim function. For being able to relax your grip on the stick you just need to light the center roll/pitch function on the auto stabilization. Edited September 6, 2013 by lorenzoj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Problem is, with rudder pedals, its really annoying to have to recenter the pedals after trimming. I haven't seen it yet, but I would have assumed that the Mi-8 would have the same rudder trim option (check box) that the Huey has. You decide whether you want the rudder trimmed or on. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonicRipper Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The rudder pedals are not affected by the trim function. For being able to relax your grip on the stick you just need to light the center roll/pitch function on the auto stabilization That's great news! Thanks for reassuring me. i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomba Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'ma bit tired and maybe my reading comprehension is not what it should be, but can the rudder be decoupled from the trimmer system? I don't test for bugs, but when I do I do it in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboHog Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Lorenzo, yes of course you have authority over you rudder after trimmer. But that is not what Ripper is asking for. IonicRipper: The rudder is part of the trim system and is subject to force feedback. That is, when I deflect my rudder to an off-center position and hit the trimmer, it will stay there. Thus, you will have to center your pedals unless you have a force feedback pedals. At this moment there is no option to uncouple the rudder from the trim system, only to enable or disable a certain percentage of autopilot authority. The HDG channel does only determine whether autopilot has some authority over rudder or not (in order to maintain heading). 'Frett' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Sorry. Since I never feel the need or desire to trim with the rudder depressed I was not comprehending the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexej21 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Guys, You couldn't explain it more confusing :doh: Autopilot ruder on/off - YES Be able to disable rudder from trim - NO Do we need the same option as in UH1- YES :smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] .....Vladimir, let's go to Sukhoi....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzoj Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Well at least we all understand the word "Beta" right :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexej21 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Did I say that I'm not happy with the current status on the Beta Mi-8 or did I post any complains to Belsimtek ? I said that this thread has 3 pages about thing which could be explained in 10 seconds. PS: Don't take it so seriously and enjoy the Flying Bus :smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] .....Vladimir, let's go to Sukhoi....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Arrow Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Well, I have a force feedback stick and the rudder is not affected by the trim. So probably for FFB users, it is unchained from the trim system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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