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I am eager to fly a carrier aircraft. I currently own both DCS and FSX, because FSX caters to my love of commercial aviation. I really badly want a very realistic and good looking +well performing carrier aircraft. The F/A-18C by ED or the F/A-18E by Coretex Designs are obviously the most promising ones, but it could take a very long time for these to be released, and I might already be in college, which would mean I won't have any time at all.

 

My question is, should I go for the VRS F/A-18E or is it worth waiting for the F/A-18's for DCS?

 

Thanks in advance!

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According to Wags, it's going to be a year until ED even start talking about the F/A-18C, let alone releasing it. With those sorts of time scales in play, you should probably go for the VRS Superbug as a stopgap.

 

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What about the F/A-18E from Coretex Designs?

 

I don't have any info on that project, but most of the 3rd party modules still seem to be a long, long way from seeing the light of day.

 

Even Beczl's Mig 21 which seemed like it might make it out late last year is still a way from being finished.

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Also keep in mind that, at least apparently according to Wags' most recent update, the new Su-33 model may be accompanied by carrier ops.

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You could go for the superbug, although I personally don't really like the VRS superbug, but rather due to limitations of FSX (some problems w/ taxiing on the ground and I also don't like the flight control sensitivites with my joystick).

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VRS Superhornet rocks and the freeware T45C is also good by Dino. BTW with vLSO you will have the most realistic training for carrier landings because it rates your approaches compared to real life carrier ops.:thumbup:

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Yes get the VRS Rhino. Amazing aircraft!

 

EDIT: i also recommend tac-pack.

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I'm in the same boat,I think I'll go ahead and get VRS also,I'm betting we wont get so much as a screenshot from DCS for 2 years.

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It appears that there will be WWII planes, Helos, and FC style planes released before DCS F-18. That is fine. That is what some customers want. Eventually DCS FA-18 will come out and be the best sim ever released :)

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It's sad that people accept the VRS Superhornet as a benchmark, but that's the state of flight sims. It's riddled with compromises and the handling qualities of the flight model are presently wildly inaccurate, but it's really the only recent publicly available Hornet. (Super or otherwise.) If you are impatient and have the dough, why not. If you are very discerning (demanding?) I would wait for the "real thing."

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If you are very discerning (demanding?) I would wait for the "real thing."

 

I think that's what I'm going to do. I just watched a video on the VRS Superbug and I felt pretty underwhelmed.

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It's sad that people accept the VRS Superhornet as a benchmark.

 

Well, when most people come from Arma and BF3 and few have heard of DCS, what do you expect? I still see tons of people commenting in DCS YouTube videos going "what game is that!?". I myself just stumbled across it one day, looking to see if there was anything more modern and realistic than Falcon 4.

 

DCS really needs some advertising.

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It's sad that people accept the VRS Superhornet as a benchmark, but that's the state of flight sims. It's riddled with compromises and the handling qualities of the flight model are presently wildly inaccurate, but it's really the only recent publicly available Hornet. (Super or otherwise.) If you are impatient and have the dough, why not. If you are very discerning (demanding?) I would wait for the "real thing."

 

how do you know vrs isn't worthy as a benchmark?

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It appears that there will be WWII planes, Helos, and FC style planes released before DCS F-18. That is fine. That is what some customers want. Eventually DCS FA-18 will come out and be the best sim ever released :)

 

It most certainly will. ;)

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I have both the VRS F18 and TP.

 

As a long time Falconeer I can say this: as a combat sim it is essentially useless right now. Only good for practicing traps with AI Ships and the vLSO addon.

 

When (or if) we see FSX@War available, maybe, MAYBE, this will morph into a quasi-useful tactical combat sim. But until then...

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I know that DCS is by far the best combat sim available, and the F/A-18C by ED and F/A-18E by Coretex Designs will be much more advanced, but I just want to perform carrier ops really badly (in an american fighter jet). My 2nd favorite fighter jet is the F/A-18, and I just cannot wait to fly it. And I will most likely be in uni by the time the F/A-18 for DCS is released, which means I wont have any time for flight simulation at all.

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how do you know vrs isn't worthy as a benchmark?

 

Because I own it? As a long-time simmer, content developer, Hornet enthusiast, and pilot; I have made a personal judgement of the VRS Super Hornet. It's a great attempt to make FSX into something it's not, but that's about it. Herculean effort better spent elsewhere. Seven G is a far superior technical representation of the Hornet/Super Hornet, and ED's product will most likely be even better.

 

I know that DCS is by far the best combat sim available, and the F/A-18C by ED and F/A-18E by Coretex Designs will be much more advanced

 

Do be aware that ED and Coretex Designs are completely separate entities, and their Hornet/Super Hornet are not related projects. It's worth noting that ED's modules will almost always be superior, because they have the ability to adjust the engine to suit their needs. (No offense, Coretex Designs.) 3rd parties must generally use existing methods.

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I know that DCS is by far the best combat sim available, and the F/A-18C by ED and F/A-18E by Coretex Designs will be much more advanced, but I just want to perform carrier ops really badly (in an american fighter jet). My 2nd favorite fighter jet is the F/A-18, and I just cannot wait to fly it. And I will most likely be in uni by the time the F/A-18 for DCS is released, which means I wont have any time for flight simulation at all.

Speaking as a college student in upper level bio classes and a part time job, this isn't true. You can always make time for DCS, assuming you don't need any sleep ;)

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Because I own it? As a long-time simmer, content developer, Hornet enthusiast, and pilot; I have made a personal judgement of the VRS Super Hornet. It's a great attempt to make FSX into something it's not, but that's about it. Herculean effort better spent elsewhere. Seven G is a far superior technical representation of the Hornet/Super Hornet, and ED's product will most likely be even better.

fair point, but you are missing the point, a benchmark is a standard point against anything else that already existed not something that is yet to exist.

 

so is VRS better than something like Jane's F/A-18? and keep in mind that actually I'm asking about the plane fidelity only, not the sim/environment in which it plugged in... with this, even based on what I only saw I think it's safe to say that VRS is of a superior fidelity than Jane's or any previous F-18 sim so with that alone it's quite worthy as the benchmark for now.

 

I do agree though that they should've ported the VRS into DCS :(

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Speaking as a college student in upper level bio classes and a part time job, this isn't true. You can always make time for DCS, assuming you don't need any sleep ;)

 

Well right now I hardly have any time at all, but that's probably because I'm doing IB at an International School. A lot of pressure, I have to admit. Grads from my school who are in Stanford said their first and second year were quite easy in comparison to 11th and 12th grade IB, so I might have more time. Who knows.

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