Schmidtfire Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc? :pilotfly:
klem Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc? :pilotfly: Balance? klem 56 RAF 'Firebirds' ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F mobo, i7 8086A @ 5.0 GHz with Corsair H115i watercooling, Gigabyte 2080Ti GAMING OC 11Gb GPU , 32Gb DDR4 RAM, 500Gb and 256Gb SSD SATA III 6Gb/s + 2TB , Pimax 8k Plus VR, TM Warthog Throttle, TM F18 Grip on Virpil WarBRD base, Windows 10 Home 64bit
ED Team NineLine Posted September 1, 2016 ED Team Posted September 1, 2016 Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc? :pilotfly: It's a Spitfire? Seriously though, if the other three arent doing it for ya, maybe the Spit wont either.... Personally just trying the most realistic simulation of the Spitfire IXc is enough for me... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Schmidtfire Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Well, I probably end up buying it anyway, got all the other modules :music_whistling: Good thing with the P-51D is that it has been used after WWII, so it can be included in a number of different scenarios, like the Korean War. Don't know if the Spit has been used post-WWII? I like dogfighting in the F86F and Mig-15bis, and they are easy to operate. The ground handling/takeoff/landings of the WWII birds are cumbersome and to be honest, probably a bit more difficult than in RL. But I might give it another shot, especially with the Normandy map and a new damage system. Just waiting for the trailer to win me over :smilewink:
Silver_Dragon Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 The carrier version of Spitfire, Seafire 47 was deployed on board HMS Triumph during the Malayan Emergency of 1949 and during the Korean War in 1950, replaced by the Sea Fury. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Ala13_ManOWar Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Well, I probably end up buying it anyway, got all the other modules :music_whistling: Good thing with the P-51D is that it has been used after WWII, so it can be included in a number of different scenarios, like the Korean War. Don't know if the Spit has been used post-WWII? I like dogfighting in the F86F and Mig-15bis, and they are easy to operate. The ground handling/takeoff/landings of the WWII birds are cumbersome and to be honest, probably a bit more difficult than in RL. But I might give it another shot, especially with the Normandy map and a new damage system. Just waiting for the trailer to win me over :smilewink:Mate, so you just don't like it, that's all. No problem with that, but no need to show off. You say what will bring to us, well as said by somebody, it's a Spitfire!!! Enough for me, but having a choice between allied fighters instead of always and only the Pony may help also. Not to mention once we put our hands into Normandy map Spit is a must regarding planeset. Did I said it's a DCS level Spitfire?? Come on mate. You clearly don't like since your adjective isn't accurate at all, cumbersome? Not at all, they can be tricky, they can be hard to master, but cumbersome? No way. And no mate, real deal isn't any easier, in fact it's even harder just with the help of the seat of your pants lacking in DCS. It's fine you don't like, but let us to be excited about flying such a wonderful aeroplane. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
Schmidtfire Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Well, It is not about like or dislike at this point. I am sure it will be a solid and well made module. The P-47 or Me262 brings something new to the table in form of ruggedness/size and early jet propulsion. Don't really know much about the Spit except that it turns well... How is the ground attack capability? Any bombs or rockets?
Ala13_ManOWar Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Well, It is not about like or dislike at this point.Some people like props, some doesn't. It's fine :thumbup:. Spitfire was a pure fighter, but she could carry a couple bombs, and I know some rocket tests but I'm not sure it was used at all. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
Krupi Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Apparently they did use rockets however I can only find evidence of IXe using rockets :( A lot of WW2 fighter aircraft were flung into the role of ground pounder and I am actually looking forward to doing some cab rank missions either bombing or supporting P-40 Kittyhawk and eventually Tornados as they are on bombing run :D Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Krupi Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Unfortunately until the map/theatre with AI units is released the aircraft might just feel a bit hollow to you. Personally I enjoy flying them right now however I am fed up of the quake wars online and the Spitfire will make it interesting again, however that is only the short-term for the long-term Normandy and missions are key. Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
Talisman_VR Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc? :pilotfly: 1. The Spitfire Mk IX will give us the first aircraft for the Allied side in DCS WWII that will provide cannon armament. 2. For the first time the Allied side will have a choice of 2 fighters instead of 1. 3. I stand to be corrected on this, but I believe it will be the most agile fighter so far, even thought it will be out-performed in many ways, particularly level speed, roll rate and climb rate. 4. It is not in the same technological time-line league as the 109K or 190D (as the Tempest V or Spitfire Mk XIV would be), so we get to experience an aircraft from an earlier technological time-line and pit it against aircraft in the next higher league up on every flight that involves combat with the 109K or 190D. So that should be fun! Happy landings, Talisman
Krupi Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 I think we will be quite surprised by the climb rate it won't be far off the 109. Only in speed and fire power will it be outclassed! Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
klem Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Well, I probably end up buying it anyway, got all the other modules :music_whistling: Good thing with the P-51D is that it has been used after WWII, so it can be included in a number of different scenarios, like the Korean War. Don't know if the Spit has been used post-WWII? I like dogfighting in the F86F and Mig-15bis, and they are easy to operate. The ground handling/takeoff/landings of the WWII birds are cumbersome and to be honest, probably a bit more difficult than in RL. But I might give it another shot, especially with the Normandy map and a new damage system. Just waiting for the trailer to win me over :smilewink: That's fine Schmitty, horses for courses. As a 20 year 'vet' of virtual WWII sims I agree the jets are easier to fly and have some interesting advantages. I'm particularly enjoying the F-5-E at the moment as a bridge between the post war period Sabre/Mig-15 and the later generation cold war jets; it's like a Hawk on steroids. Nevertheless I am really looking forward to the agile Spitfire MkIX with punch so much better than the early marks in CoD and a more comprehensive flight model too. I don't know that the DCS WWII a/c are more difficult than RL but they were a bit of a handful with all that torque and prop wash. Even the experienced RAF pilots that join the BoB memorial flight have to learn how to handle them. klem 56 RAF 'Firebirds' ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F mobo, i7 8086A @ 5.0 GHz with Corsair H115i watercooling, Gigabyte 2080Ti GAMING OC 11Gb GPU , 32Gb DDR4 RAM, 500Gb and 256Gb SSD SATA III 6Gb/s + 2TB , Pimax 8k Plus VR, TM Warthog Throttle, TM F18 Grip on Virpil WarBRD base, Windows 10 Home 64bit
Krupi Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Anyone else jabbing F5 button and crossing fingers? :music_whistling: Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
snowsniper Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I'm afraid that if it's available in "pre order" today, you'll have an other month to wait or more before it is downloadable. :joystick: i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
Brigg Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I'm afraid that if it's available in "pre order" today, you'll have an other month to wait or more before it is downloadable. :joystick: Maybe, but at least we will be one step closer to getting her :)
snowsniper Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) 3 kneeboard pages ready to use, for the Spit IX DCS. my Sunday work, as I'm waiting for the spit...:music_whistling: it's a sumary of the IX pilot's notes you can find on the web. tested it with the 51 it still readable Edited September 4, 2016 by snowsniper 2 i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
Weegie Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Very Cool Snowsniper Many Thanks for the Kneeboard notes
Krupi Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Awesome, I will have to try them out to see if you can read them in VR :thumbup: Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit
snowsniper Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Awesome, I will have to try them out to see if you can read them in VR :thumbup: Hi, I don't think it will be readable in kneeboard with the VR occulus. i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
Friedrich-4B Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Hi, I don't think it will be readable in kneeboard with the VR occulus. Still. thanks for making them available. For interest, here are genuine WW2 Spitfire VII and VIII Pilot's Notes; many of the details are also relevant to the Spitfire L.F. Mk IX.Spitfire VII & VIII PN's a.pdfSpitfire VII & VIII PN's b.pdfSpitfire VII & VIII PN's c.pdf [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
Cripple Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Still. thanks for making them available. For interest, here are genuine WW2 Spitfire VII and VIII Pilot's Notes; many of the details are also relevant to the Spitfire L.F. Mk IX. And here is a copy of the 1944 mk IX pilot notes, which covers the bomb fusing and other such wee nuggets of info... (Cockpit drawings at the end of the section)Section 1.pdf 1 My *new* AV-8B sim-pit build thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3901589 The old Spitfire sim-pit build thread circa '16/17: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=143452
Friedrich-4B Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) And here is a copy of the 1944 mk IX pilot notes, which covers the bomb fusing and other such wee nuggets of info... (Cockpit drawings at the end of the section) An excellent find, and thanks for sharing it. :thumbup: Attached are extracts from the August 1942 Spitfire IX Pilot's Notes (A.P 1565 J Merlin 61) giving the Spitfire IX's leading particulars (dimensions and areas). Also attached is a page from the same document that refutes claims, made by some self-proclaimed experts (based on a NACA document on the Spitfire VA) that the Spitfire IX was longitudinally unstable. Edited September 9, 2016 by Friedrich-4/B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
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