DCS: Spitfire Mk LF IXc Discussion

[Schmidtfire]

Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc?

:pilotfly:

[klem]

Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc?

:pilotfly:

 

Balance?

[Brigg]

and probably a lot more players

[NineLine]

Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc?

:pilotfly:

 

It's a Spitfire?

 

Seriously though, if the other three arent doing it for ya, maybe the Spit wont either.... Personally just trying the most realistic simulation of the Spitfire IXc is enough for me...

[Schmidtfire]

Well, I probably end up buying it anyway, got all the other modules :music_whistling: Good thing with the P-51D is that it has been used after WWII, so it can be included in a number of different scenarios, like the Korean War. Don't know if the Spit has been used post-WWII? I like dogfighting in the F86F and Mig-15bis, and they are easy to operate. The ground handling/takeoff/landings of the WWII birds are cumbersome and to be honest, probably a bit more difficult than in RL.

But I might give it another shot, especially with the Normandy map and a new damage system. Just waiting for the trailer to win me over :smilewink:

[Silver_Dragon]

The carrier version of Spitfire, Seafire 47 was deployed on board HMS Triumph during the Malayan Emergency of 1949 and during the Korean War in 1950, replaced by the Sea Fury.

[Ala13_ManOWar]

Well, I probably end up buying it anyway, got all the other modules :music_whistling: Good thing with the P-51D is that it has been used after WWII, so it can be included in a number of different scenarios, like the Korean War. Don't know if the Spit has been used post-WWII? I like dogfighting in the F86F and Mig-15bis, and they are easy to operate. The ground handling/takeoff/landings of the WWII birds are cumbersome and to be honest, probably a bit more difficult than in RL.

But I might give it another shot, especially with the Normandy map and a new damage system. Just waiting for the trailer to win me over :smilewink:

Mate, so you just don't like it, that's all. No problem with that, but no need to show off. You say what will bring to us, well as said by somebody, it's a Spitfire!!! Enough for me, but having a choice between allied fighters instead of always and only the Pony may help also. Not to mention once we put our hands into Normandy map Spit is a must regarding planeset. Did I said it's a DCS level Spitfire?? Come on mate. You clearly don't like since your adjective isn't accurate at all, cumbersome? Not at all, they can be tricky, they can be hard to master, but cumbersome? No way. And no mate, real deal isn't any easier, in fact it's even harder just with the help of the seat of your pants lacking in DCS. It's fine you don't like, but let us to be excited about flying such a wonderful aeroplane.

 

S!

[Schmidtfire]

Well, It is not about like or dislike at this point. I am sure it will be a solid and well made module. The P-47 or Me262 brings something new to the table in form of ruggedness/size and early jet propulsion. Don't really know much about the Spit except that it turns well... How is the ground attack capability? Any bombs or rockets?

[Ala13_ManOWar]

Well, It is not about like or dislike at this point.

Some people like props, some doesn't. It's fine :thumbup:.

 

 

Spitfire was a pure fighter, but she could carry a couple bombs, and I know some rocket tests but I'm not sure it was used at all.

 

 

S!

[Krupi]

Apparently they did use rockets however I can only find evidence of IXe using rockets :(

 

A lot of WW2 fighter aircraft were flung into the role of ground pounder and I am actually looking forward to doing some cab rank missions either bombing or supporting P-40 Kittyhawk and eventually Tornados as they are on bombing run :D

[Krupi]

Unfortunately until the map/theatre with AI units is released the aircraft might just feel a bit hollow to you.

 

Personally I enjoy flying them right now however I am fed up of the quake wars online and the Spitfire will make it interesting again, however that is only the short-term for the long-term Normandy and missions are key.

[Talisman_VR]

Let's put fanboyism aside. Let's put aside the fact that the Spitfire is a legendary fighter. Let's forget all the pretty screenshots we have seen. What will make the Spit more FUN to fly than P-51D, Kürfurst or the Dora? Trying to get excited, but Im afraid that most of the time, it will be left in the hangar like the other three WWII modules... What does the Spitfire bring to the table in terms of making WWII flying in DCS interesting? Any unique payloads, characteristics etc?

:pilotfly:

 

1. The Spitfire Mk IX will give us the first aircraft for the Allied side in DCS WWII that will provide cannon armament.

 

2. For the first time the Allied side will have a choice of 2 fighters instead of 1.

 

3. I stand to be corrected on this, but I believe it will be the most agile fighter so far, even thought it will be out-performed in many ways, particularly level speed, roll rate and climb rate.

 

4. It is not in the same technological time-line league as the 109K or 190D (as the Tempest V or Spitfire Mk XIV would be), so we get to experience an aircraft from an earlier technological time-line and pit it against aircraft in the next higher league up on every flight that involves combat with the 109K or 190D. So that should be fun!

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

[Krupi]

I think we will be quite surprised by the climb rate it won't be far off the 109. Only in speed and fire power will it be outclassed!

[klem]

Well, I probably end up buying it anyway, got all the other modules :music_whistling: Good thing with the P-51D is that it has been used after WWII, so it can be included in a number of different scenarios, like the Korean War. Don't know if the Spit has been used post-WWII? I like dogfighting in the F86F and Mig-15bis, and they are easy to operate. The ground handling/takeoff/landings of the WWII birds are cumbersome and to be honest, probably a bit more difficult than in RL.

But I might give it another shot, especially with the Normandy map and a new damage system. Just waiting for the trailer to win me over :smilewink:

 

That's fine Schmitty, horses for courses. As a 20 year 'vet' of virtual WWII sims I agree the jets are easier to fly and have some interesting advantages. I'm particularly enjoying the F-5-E at the moment as a bridge between the post war period Sabre/Mig-15 and the later generation cold war jets; it's like a Hawk on steroids. Nevertheless I am really looking forward to the agile Spitfire MkIX with punch so much better than the early marks in CoD and a more comprehensive flight model too.

 

I don't know that the DCS WWII a/c are more difficult than RL but they were a bit of a handful with all that torque and prop wash. Even the experienced RAF pilots that join the BoB memorial flight have to learn how to handle them.

[Krupi]

Anyone else jabbing F5 button and crossing fingers? :music_whistling:

[snowsniper]

I'm afraid that if it's available in "pre order" today, you'll have an other month to wait or more before it is downloadable.

 

:joystick:

[Brigg]

I'm afraid that if it's available in "pre order" today, you'll have an other month to wait or more before it is downloadable.

 

:joystick:

 

Maybe, but at least we will be one step closer to getting her :)

[Coxy_99]

maybe September 2017 hehe

[snowsniper]

3 kneeboard pages ready to use, for the Spit IX DCS.

 

my Sunday work, as I'm waiting for the spit...:music_whistling:

 

it's a sumary of the IX pilot's notes you can find on the web.

 

tested it with the 51 it still readable

Edited September 4, 2016 by snowsniper

[Weegie]

Very Cool Snowsniper

 

Many Thanks for the Kneeboard notes

[Krupi]

Awesome, I will have to try them out to see if you can read them in VR :thumbup:

[snowsniper]

Awesome, I will have to try them out to see if you can read them in VR :thumbup:

 

Hi, I don't think it will be readable in kneeboard with the VR occulus.

[Friedrich-4B]

Hi, I don't think it will be readable in kneeboard with the VR occulus.

 

Still. thanks for making them available.

 

For interest, here are genuine WW2 Spitfire VII and VIII Pilot's Notes; many of the details are also relevant to the Spitfire L.F. Mk IX.

Spitfire VII & VIII PN's a.pdf

Spitfire VII & VIII PN's b.pdf

Spitfire VII & VIII PN's c.pdf

[Cripple]

Still. thanks for making them available.

 

For interest, here are genuine WW2 Spitfire VII and VIII Pilot's Notes; many of the details are also relevant to the Spitfire L.F. Mk IX.

 

And here is a copy of the 1944 mk IX pilot notes, which covers the bomb fusing and other such wee nuggets of info...

 

(Cockpit drawings at the end of the section)

Section 1.pdf

[Friedrich-4B]

And here is a copy of the 1944 mk IX pilot notes, which covers the bomb fusing and other such wee nuggets of info...

 

(Cockpit drawings at the end of the section)

 

An excellent find, and thanks for sharing it. :thumbup:

 

Attached are extracts from the August 1942 Spitfire IX Pilot's Notes (A.P 1565 J Merlin 61) giving the Spitfire IX's leading particulars (dimensions and areas).

 

Also attached is a page from the same document that refutes claims, made by some self-proclaimed experts (based on a NACA document on the Spitfire VA) that the Spitfire IX was longitudinally unstable.

Edited September 9, 2016 by Friedrich-4/B