DCS: P-47D-30 Discussion

[MiloMorai]

This might help with American bombs,

 

 

http://www.303rdbg.com/bombs.html

[Random]

Oooh clusterbombs sound fun! I'm looking foreward to using the P47 for ground attack and more options for what to drop on people can only make it better!

[Friedrich-4B]

Bombs and triple tube rockets:

 

 

 

 

I don't think the 5" HVARs were used by European based P-47s; no doubt I'll be corrected on this.

 

Info on 66" Hg WEP:

 

[Silver_Dragon]

AN-M30

 

AN-M57

 

AN-M65

 

AN-M66

 

AN-M56

 

AN-M58

 

AN-M59

Edited July 17, 2014 by Silver_Dragon

[Barrett_g]

I'm not sure if the 5" HVAR's were theater based or not... But I don't think the P-47's got them until the Block -40 model. I think it was just the -40 and all the P-47N's that had the rocket stubs added. All the previous models used the 3 bazooka tube type rockets.

[MiloMorai]

Jugs are tough. So are their pilots.

 

[Bucic]

Jugs are tough. So are their pilots.

 

http://i.imgur.com/cE4hbmc.jpg[/iM G]

Good one! Any pics with wrecked engine, especially the cylinder section shot? I've heard it mentioned many times but never actually seen any evidence of a P-47 surviving a cylinder actually being shot at.

[Barrett_g]

I've read about a cylinder being shot out leaving a piston flopping around in several books, as well as hearing pilots give first hand accounts in a couple documentaries.

 

I did a search and couldn't find a specific picture that demonstrated this damage.... But it would look like the above picture... oil leaking out of one of the broken top cylinders.... Enough oil would stay in the bottom part of the engine to keep the motor from seizing. If a bottom cylinder was shot out I'd imagine the oil would all drain out and the motor would seize.

[fastfreddie]

Jugs are tough. So are their pilots.

 

 

So he had to stick his head out the window to land this right. Did this involve some form of standing while landing? No way could he see anything out that cockpit window.

[Barrett_g]

I imagine he flew off his wingman/leads wing while they talked him down and he scanned his gauges.

[Bucic]

I've read about a cylinder being shot out leaving a piston flopping around in several books, as well as hearing pilots give first hand accounts in a couple documentaries.

 

I did a search and couldn't find a specific picture that demonstrated this damage.... But it would look like the above picture... oil leaking out of one of the broken top cylinders.... Enough oil would stay in the bottom part of the engine to keep the motor from seizing. If a bottom cylinder was shot out I'd imagine the oil would all drain out and the motor would seize.

It depends on the oil system. I'm not an engine-er but AFAIK only some form of 'splashing' oil lubrication would prevent oil from leaking out of the engine for good. Any sort of an oil pressurized nozzle looking towards or located in the lost cylinder and you're done.

[too-cool]

Any Idea about the time frame the P-47 will be available to kickstarter and purchase? Thanks TC

[Barrett_g]

It's un-officially slated for March 2015..... But I imagine that date will slip a few times before then.

[Barrett_g]

^ maybe it won't slip.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!! The newly released P-47 pic has got me all excited again. I need to save for a new computer!

[MiloMorai]

Design Analysis of the P-47

 

http://rwebs.net/avhistory/history/p-47.htm

 

Also take at look at the GE turbocharger article.

[Need-To-Know]

Give me a JUG and that will be the last of my job, social life, and family.

 

Isn't there treatment for guys who find solace in a JUG. Already drunk on the idea....Kidding

 

But honestly it will be the main/only WW2 platform I fly (unless a B17 comes along).

 

The Yanks are coming!!

 

Over paid, over sexed, over here and one day over powering!

Edited September 5, 2014 by Need-To-Know
spelling...as usual

[Cool-Hand]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but it was new to me when I saw it. The video goes over operation and a little bit of the construction of the P-47. Loved the ground loop on the runway later on =P

 

[Mike Busutil]

Cool video. I can't wait for the awesome 47. But as a ground school and flight instructor myself, those teaching techniques are hard to listen to. The instructor was jumping all over the place.

[chris455]

Give me a JUG and that will be the last of my job, social life, and family.

 

Isn't there treatment for guys who find solace in a JUG. Already drunk on the idea....Kidding

 

But honestly it will be the main/only WW2 platform I fly (unless a B17 comes along).

 

The Yanks are coming!!

 

Over paid, over sexed, over here and one day over powering!

 

Was a saying back in the day about big women:

 

"When you're nose-to-nose, your toes is in it;

When you're toe-to-toe, your nose is in it"

 

The Jug is just a big gal that has a way with some of us that others don't understand.

[Need-To-Know]

 

Was a saying back in the day about big women:

"When you're nose-to-nose, your toes is in it;

When you're toe-to-toe, your nose is in it"

 

 

Now that was funny!! :megalol:

[Solty]

I think you're right.... I think the roll rate was surprising for how big the P-47 was... So it's more reletive.... But while searching I did find this document from when the RAF was testing an early model P-47:

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47c-afdu.html

 

It basically says the P-47's roll rate was:

 

Comparable if not better than the Spit MK IX above 30k feet of altitude... Though the Spit had the edge down low.

 

Far superior than the Typhoon IB

 

Considerably better than the Mustang X

 

The P-38F doesn't really go into roll rates... But the P-38F out maneuvered the P-47C.

 

It's a pretty interesting read!

 

 

If P-47 had comparable roll to Spitfire it was deffinitely worse than a P-51B or D. Mustang X is not representative of the P-51 serries. At low speed Spitifire is realy good, but the faster it goes the curve is droping rapidly. Speed is realy a factor here.

 

Above 370kph the P-51B is still getting better while P-47C starts to drop. Although, one must admire the curve for Fw190 :P

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/naca868-rollchart.jpg

 

 

[SimFreak]

I may have to buy this http://www.amazon.com/CH-Products-Throttle-Quadrant-300-133/dp/B0002A59Z4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410251128&sr=8-1&keywords=The+CH+Throttle+Quadrant just to use this bloody thing. Can't wait for proper simulation of this. Dora changed my view based on simulation. Jug will probably do same.

[DSR_T-800]

I personally can't wait to fly the P-47D-30. Coming in with 8x50 Cals blazing :pilotfly::joystick:

 

P-47D-30

 

SL-345 MPH

10,000 - 383 MPH

20,000 - 417 MPH

*29,000 - 443 MPH*

32,000 - 435 MPH (Estimated)

 

"High Speed of the airplane is 443 MPH at 29,000 feet."

 

I made some adjustments to Narushima's original Fighter Comparison.

 

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/comp-p47dmn.jpg

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47-differences.jpg

 

"P-47D-30 which has a critical altitude of approximately 24,200 feet and high speed of 445 MPH."

 

150 Grade Fuel?

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/Comparative_Fighter_Performance.jpg

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/P-47-high-speed-30sept44.jpg

Edited October 5, 2014 by DSR_T-800

[Barrett_g]

It'll be interesting to see how the jug is used in online servers. I can see a lot of people getting lured down low and getting upset with the performance.

 

Hopefully they'll learn to stay high and boom and zoom!

[USARStarkey]

It'll be interesting to see how the jug is used in online servers. I can see a lot of people getting lured down low and getting upset with the performance.

 

Hopefully they'll learn to stay high and boom and zoom!

 

One would hope. But with the current engine it will be darn near impossible to spot a enemy below you at useful distances IE: as significant altitude advantage. Hopefully Edge helps alot with this. ED has now admitted the DMG model has issues, and hopefully it fixed soon, because the combination of poor visibility and weak guns will make BnZ next to useless.