DCS: P-47D-30 Discussion

[Ercoupe]

"It should be. I think it was a standard feature from D-28."

 

The ability to connect the Throttle, supercharger and prop control was available beginning with the C model. From the P-47 handbook:

"On P-47C and subsequent models, the throttle, supercharger and propeller controls are made so that they can be pushed forward by use of the throttle alone. When properly adjusted, this position should give about 52 inches Hg and 2700 rpm at altitudes up to 25,000 feet. It may be necessary to push past the stop to obtain full power above 25,000 feet. When controls are connected, the supercharger control will come back as the throttle is retarded, but the propeller control will remain at the farthest position. Rpm must be reduced by pulling the propeller control back."

[grafspee]

I wonder if ED will model the cold start of the engine. As in, when you start it from cold it runs rough until it is warmed up a bit.

Then if you you do a hot start it is super smooth on start up. That would be awesome if they could do that!

Really looking forward to this module.

 

Do you mean cold start like in modern day, after sitting months in the hangar, or cold start after couple hours brake for pilot and plane ??

[uist1]

I mean a cold start as in first start of the day kind of start. So from cold. The engine would not be cool after a couple hours break for the plane or pilot therefore the engine would not be cold.

One of a radial engines main characteristics is a rough cold idle.

I shall love the module regardless though. ED make my sim dreams come true every time I fly.

Edited April 19, 2020 by uist1

[71st_AH Rob]

First start of the day and warm up would be done by the ground crew in wartime conditions.

[NineLine]

This P-47 will be equipped with the option to interconnect Throttle and turbo lever?

 

 

Yes indeed.

[ShadowFrost]

First start of the day and warm up would be done by the ground crew in wartime conditions.

 

Sounds like we need an option as to whether our engine has been pre-warmed or not. Because, one set of operational conditions is not applicable to everything in DCS.

[NineLine]

Sounds like we need an option as to whether our engine has been pre-warmed or not. Because, one set of operational conditions is not applicable to everything in DCS.

 

It's been requested.

[Barrett_g]

Here’s another feature I’d like to see someday for the warbirds:

 

When I returned to base for some repairs in my A-10 I was pleasantly surprised to see several panels open and close as the A-10 was lowered back to the tarmac.

 

It would be neat to see the P-47’s ammo panels open when requesting refuel/rearm. Bonus points if you can see the 50cal ammo belts replenished!!!

[BuzzU]

Here’s another feature I’d like to see someday for the warbirds:

 

When I returned to base for some repairs in my A-10 I was pleasantly surprised to see several panels open and close as the A-10 was lowered back to the tarmac.

 

It would be neat to see the P-47’s ammo panels open when requesting refuel/rearm. Bonus points if you can see the 50cal ammo belts replenished!!!

 

That would seem weird if no human was doing it. What we need are animated crews. We see them on the Supercarrier, so we know they can do it now.

 

Maybe someday.

[grafspee]

Ah, that kind of animation would be way to much for our PCs right now.

But i would love to see ammo truck and fuel truck, power truck driving up to your plane if requested any of this, not an instant repair,refuel,rearm. And number of trucks should be limited per airfield so you cant' rearm refuel 5 planes at the same time.

That kind of traffic on airfield would be neat. IMO

[BuzzU]

They have pit crews in car racing sims.

 

We're talking about when we're on the ground. Low fps won't hurt us too bad there.

[grafspee]

They have pit crews in car racing sims.

 

We're talking about when we're on the ground. Low fps won't hurt us too bad there.

 

Exactly, DCS has extreme problems with fps on the ground, look at ppl who don't have 2080ti.

Right now multiple planes at same airfield can cut fps, Not mention ground crew for every plane.

And now, try take off with 10-20 fps good luck with that.

[BuzzU]

Exactly, DCS has extreme problems with fps on the ground, look at ppl who don't have 2080ti.

Right now multiple planes at same airfield can cut fps, Not mention ground crew for every plane.

And now, try take off with 10-20 fps good luck with that.

 

With the WW2 planes?

[greco.bernardi]

Exactly, DCS has extreme problems with fps on the ground, look at ppl who don't have 2080ti.

Right now multiple planes at same airfield can cut fps, Not mention ground crew for every plane.

And now, try take off with 10-20 fps good luck with that.

 

I will loved to have a animated ground crew doing a startup procedure in my 109 plane.

And if its possible.... when i call in radio for refuel and rearm i will be a happy pilot for waiting to vehicles came driving from the service park zone to my parking plane place to do the service. And it will be avoid some pilots to do this from the runway because they will not do any service at wrong places.

[Sharkh]

Exactly, DCS has extreme problems with fps on the ground, look at ppl who don't have 2080ti.

Right now multiple planes at same airfield can cut fps, Not mention ground crew for every plane.

And now, try take off with 10-20 fps good luck with that.

 

I had only a simple GTX980 and and an AMD FX8350 no so long ago but even with that I could get 30+ frames on the ground with maximum quality settings with lots of other vehicles moving around.

 

The last time my fps went to 10-20 on the ground was with DX9 and the DCS 1.5 and before or now when trying to play missions what needs more than 16GB ram for smooth gameplay but I only have 16 than it drops significantly .

 

Personally I thought that most of the gound performance issue was solved with dx11 after 2.5.

 

 

You don't need 2080ti at all for flat screen 1080 stable 60fps gameplay a better CPU is more important I guess.

Edited April 28, 2020 by Sharkh

[BuzzU]

Anytime someone complains about fps you can bet they use VR.

 

I get high fps all the time but I have no interest in VR.

[grafspee]

But you need to consider all users, 1080p is going away slowly, 2k or more becoming standard, VR as well.

[Sharkh]

But you need to consider all users, 1080p is going away slowly, 2k or more becoming standard, VR as well.

 

 

Sure but I guess if someone wants to play a simulator with 4k or in VR than probably have the budget and the will to buy the best GPU and the best CPU available.

 

I wonder if your complaint about 10-20fps on ground was with 4k or in VR ?

[BuzzU]

What's the Supercarrier going to do to VR users? Crews and all those Hornets parked on it. I also assume the boat itself will be a bigger draw too.

 

Surely, a WW2 crew will be easier on fps.

[Barrett_g]

Lol! I’d just be happy with panels that open! It would also be useful as part of the damage modeling. If your ammo panel gets shot open you may lose all the ammo belts out of that wing!

[zcrazyx]

how about having it as an option for each player to select if the ground crews are simulated? can still have the access ports opened but just not show the animation for stuff being reloaded.

[catchforusthefoxes]

its almost may :)

[Jester986]

So how competitive will the P-47 be against our current German line up?

[Barrett_g]

So how competitive will the P-47 be against our current German line up?

 

The P-47 should be the best high altitude performer. Climb to altitude and wait for them to come to you, or circle above, pick your target, and pounce.

 

It all depends on the pilot and how he utilizes the plane’s strengths.

[Bozon]

The P-47 should be the best high altitude performer. Climb to altitude and wait for them to come to you, or circle above, pick your target, and pounce.

 

It all depends on the pilot and how he utilizes the plane’s strengths.

You will have to get to 30,000 feet to claim that.

Down low it will be a struggle against 190D and 109K. That does not mean that the jug is helpless, but those two are clearly superior and it is up to the pilot skill to compensate for that. It should handle the 190A8 quite well though.

 

The P-47D30 entered service when nearly all P-47s were being replaced by P51Ds in the 8th AF. It was meant to act as a fighter-bomber. 56th FG, the last fighter group in the 8AF to use Jugs as escort fighters till the end of the war (and were fighting 109K and 190D) were overboosting their P47Ds to the level that made them equivalent to P47M.