DCS 1.2.7 Open Beta - Preliminary Changelog

[LivingFood]

I hope we see this BETA this week!

[Dejjvid]

I hope we see the beta when the devs feel like its time to release it. Not when Internet trolls (oh I'm sorry, mostly grown up men moaning like school girls that dropped their ice creams) cry their eyes out.

[diveplane]

wow noted all the updates ,

 

great we have ship wake at last will look fantastic

 

New and improved ship wakes. Must set water setting to High.

[sslechta]

I hope we see the beta when the devs feel like its time to release it. Not when Internet trolls (oh I'm sorry, mostly grown up men moaning like school girls that dropped their ice creams) cry their eyes out.

 

Well said... :)

[xaoslaad]

Unless this changes between now and then all tracking will need to be done through the forums. Setting up something like bugzilla will just add another layer of work. Basically you will submit your bugs and a Tester or Dev will acknowledge and submit that bug. I would hope that we will take it a step further and acknowledge when a fix is coming, but I dont know how it will all work right now. At least that is how I understand it right now...

 

Ya, I didn't mean to say it would be a 5 minute change, but there is obviously a lot of energy around pointing out imperfections and some of that could probably be a little more effectively directed.

[LivingFood]

I hope we see the beta when the devs feel like its time to release it. Not when Internet trolls (oh I'm sorry, mostly grown up men moaning like school girls that dropped their ice creams) cry their eyes out.

 

Well said... :)

 

Wow I'm glad I signed up for this forum. Seems like there are very friendly people here.. :music_whistling:

 

I just thought I could show some enthusiasm about all the exciting changes in 1.2.7. I'll probably go back not paying attention again. Thanks.

[RetroBurn]

For those in the open beta, how is it coming along?

[SFAL]

Great stuff still adding new item on the list. I cant see any removed which is good news.

A good while back the ATC was mentioned to be upgraded. I like to see that with patch no2/3

If there is any chance ED can we have the datalink bugs cleaned up and get AWACS functions on hotkeys that can be maped to the HOTAS?

 

Im sure they have their hands full. Hope to see these realize.

 

Thanks!

[sslechta]

I just thought I could show some enthusiasm about all the exciting changes in 1.2.7. I'll probably go back not paying attention again. Thanks.

 

Those comments weren't directed at you, Living Food. It was in reference to the other bickering going on before your post.

[Raven68]

It was in reference to the other bickering going on before your post.

 

Bickering on the forums?? Say it aint so!! ;)

 

Back on topic... I know all bug issues are important, but I hoping that we can put the net code through it paces with some good results.

Edited December 17, 2013 by Raven68

[sslechta]

I know, right?

[LivingFood]

Those comments weren't directed at you, Living Food. It was in reference to the other bickering going on before your post.

 

Whew, because this is one of my favorite simulations of all time, and I am extremely excited that it's being updated at all, let alone this often.

 

You are right, I do want it to come out when it's done, but on the other hand I can't wait to get my hands on a lot of these changes.

[hypersonik]

MP PROBLEM: How do testers (ED) keep their mp servers .. closed ?

 

How will players know which servers are 1.26 and 1.2.7 ... ?

[GGTharos]

The Master Server won't show you servers that aren't of the version you are running.

 

Testers are usually ahead of the OB.

[Mustang]

MP PROBLEM: How do testers (ED) keep their mp servers .. closed ?

 

How will players know which servers are 1.26 and 1.2.7 ... ?

 

You can only see servers with same version in MP browser so it won't be an issue.

 

edit: ubersniped :gun_sniper:

[Dejjvid]

DCS 1.2.7 Open Beta - Preliminary Changelog

 

You won't see 1.2.7 servers while on 1.2.6. ;)

 

Edit: über-mega-sniped

[hypersonik]

ok thanks :D

[tietze]

So, what will people do when their issue in a public bug tracker is not assigned/updated/whatevered?

 

Same as they do now, but the difference is that the bug is acknowledged. That assumes the bugtracker is moderated and maintained. Which requires work and making public priorities and possibly technicalities that needs explanation. It is a service that could benefit both or no-one depending on how it is implemented and used.

 

I do not think ED wins anything in the long run by keeping silent or do what might look like obfuscating what is going on behind the curtain. But that is a question of strategy. Where do you want your users, testers, developers and what role do/should they play for your software? What kind of commitment?

 

But if the bug is not going to be fixed anyway there is of course no reason to have a public bugtracker!

[GGTharos]

I wouldn't necessarily be thinking of it in terms of a bug not being fixed, but that can happen also - there are priorities.

 

So, next thing you know

 

- There are bugs that don't get acknowledged or updated for whatever reason (and they may or may not be being worked on)

- There are bugs that may be acknowledged but not being worked on, very low priority or scheduled for another phase of the project that ED isn't going to talk about until it's time, including revealing its existence

- There are things that people want to call bugs but are there 'by design'

 

So it doesn't just come down to whether us (unpaid, BTW) moderators can deal with the increased work, but also other factors that can cause issues. I suppose that one way to deal with things is to just ban people from the open beta tracker if they end up doing counter-productive things.

 

Anyway ... back on topic I think, this sort of discussion probably merits its own thread.

[danilop]

...

- There are things that people want to call bugs but are there 'by design'

...

 

Epic! ... :megalol:

[tietze]

So it doesn't just come down to whether us (unpaid, BTW) moderators can deal with the increased work, but also other factors that can cause issues. I suppose that one way to deal with things is to just ban people from the open beta tracker if they end up doing counter-productive things.

 

Anyway ... back on topic I think, this sort of discussion probably merits its own thread.

 

A public bug tracking system will not silence the discussion and remove every problem interfacing users, forums, testers and developers. It will be another tool to interact with users, govern bug fixing and perform strategical communication. In that regard when mentioning a bug tracking system requires work and maintenance I was just pointing out that it would require resources and prioritization from ED, not just increase work load for moderators.

 

... and yes, OT again... :pilotfly:

[NineLine]

A public bug tracking system will not silence the discussion and remove every problem interfacing users, forums, testers and developers. It will be another tool to interact with users, govern bug fixing and perform strategical communication. In that regard when mentioning a bug tracking system requires work and maintenance I was just pointing out that it would require resources and prioritization from ED, not just increase work load for moderators.

 

... and yes, OT again... :pilotfly:

 

Well lets see what they come up with and we can refine it as needed from there. But no sense debating it now until they show us all the cards. I trust they want to utilize all you willing souls...

[Psyrixx]

For those in the open beta, how is it coming along?

 

The open beta hasn't been released yet.

Once it has been released, anyone and everyone who is willing to participate can download it, install it and test it.

 

The preliminary changelog in the Official Updates subforum is a constantly updated forum post that details what they have finished and flagged as going to be in the open beta once it is released, hence the word "preliminary" before changelog. This thread is simply a discussion thread about various fixes/updates that have been posted in the Official Updates thread.

 

:)

[joey45]

Nice updated preliminary change log changes*

 

* Wags, not sure if intentional but you deleted the *info bit at the bottom of the change log.....

 

Love the Mi8 changes.

[Psyrixx]

Since the original forum post was just for v1.2.7 (before they made it an open beta), and subsequently it has been mentioned that it will be a completely separate install with a completely new SaveGames/Config directory, your controls will not need to be reset because they will be brand new!

 

So perhaps that is why the asterixed info was remove from the preliminary changelog =)