Pman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 Hmm interesting bitmaster, I've never had issues on the VA server in 1.2.6 but then again a critic would think I'd say that anyway lol Not fps stuttering anyway, there is sometimes abit of lag but that's down to how many people are on and their own net connections as well. We keep an eye out for that specifically on our server anyway. Looks like I've managed to aquire an nvidia card to use in the short term will try it tonight and report back Pman
BitMaster Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 It seems like it is machine dependent if not all suffer the same symptom, aka not server bound. It was way better on 1.2.6 since the stutter only appeared in dense scenes and I could always fly away or point myPOV elsewhere and regain fps and avoid stutter. Maybe it was just a bad night with a bad line. We will see tonight ;) I just asked a few Pilots flying on my Testserver ( P-51 Missions ) and they say they have no issues whatsoever hmmm. makes me wonder haha Gotta go, RL calls later tonight Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Mainstay Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Have you guys tried the holding mouse button down trick? Alot of people even with nvidia cards are suffering from low fps and microstuttering but when you hold down either left or right mouse button the FPS goes up with 30 to 50%. Might help..
diveplane Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Have you guys tried the holding mouse button down trick? Alot of people even with nvidia cards are suffering from low fps and microstuttering but when you hold down either left or right mouse button the FPS goes up with 30 to 50%. Might help.. is the above answer a joke? never herd of this can some one explain what this is about? or investigate this more. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
ED Team NineLine Posted December 19, 2013 ED Team Posted December 19, 2013 The mouse issue is known and reported. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Pman Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 is the above answer a joke? never herd of this can some one explain what this is about? or investigate this more. nope its serious, some people suffering a huge improvement in frames just by holding down a mouse button. There is another thread on the main boards for it I am at work at the moment, will try it later Pman Edit: sniped by Sith
9.JG27 DavidRed Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 yeah, i have this "mouse-button" problem as well....a quick fix for now for me was to use the little program joytokey and with switching a switch on my warthog throttle, it now emulates my mouse wheel button...of course this is only a workaround, but at least for now it works and one can enjoy the improvements in 127, or at least hunt the other bugs...
storm363 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 That's interesting, what card are you using? My specs: MoBo: MSI Z77 Mpower CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K @4.5GHz Video: Sapphire Radeon HD6850 Vapor-X Ram: 4gb DDR3 1333MHz Intel Core i5-2500K@4.7GHz | Noctua NH-D14 (NF-P12 + NF-P14) | MSI Z77 MPOWER | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 1866MHz HX318C10FBK2/16 2x8GB | MSI N580GTX Lightning Extreme Edition (3GB, 910MHz/1195MHz) | AOC e2236Swa | Win10 64bit | Old Good Saitek X52 Pro Virtute Duce, Comite Fortuna! :pilotfly:[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:pilotfly:
ED Team NineLine Posted December 19, 2013 ED Team Posted December 19, 2013 My specs: MoBo: MSI Z77 Mpower CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K @4.5GHz Video: Sapphire Radeon HD6850 Vapor-X Ram: 4gb DDR3 1333MHz Your RAM is below min specs. 6GB is the min. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
storm363 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Your RAM is below min specs. 6GB is the min. I know but: I'm running all at low, except textures (medium), AA (4x), HDR (Cold) and I have the same FPS as 1.2.6, 40-60. I also noticed, already in 1.2.6, that when I see nav lights, i lose 1-2 FPS. Intel Core i5-2500K@4.7GHz | Noctua NH-D14 (NF-P12 + NF-P14) | MSI Z77 MPOWER | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 1866MHz HX318C10FBK2/16 2x8GB | MSI N580GTX Lightning Extreme Edition (3GB, 910MHz/1195MHz) | AOC e2236Swa | Win10 64bit | Old Good Saitek X52 Pro Virtute Duce, Comite Fortuna! :pilotfly:[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:pilotfly:
ED Team NineLine Posted December 19, 2013 ED Team Posted December 19, 2013 A large enough mission will cause you issues, we cant use your results if you dont meet the minimum specs, I hope this makes sense. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Blacknemisis Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Same FPS drop getting 25 to 32 FPS with setting of medium to low. ATI 6870 quad amd 3.8
storm363 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 A large enough mission will cause you issues, we cant use your results if you dont meet the minimum specs, I hope this makes sense. I have no issues with the game, I was just replying to pman... :huh: Intel Core i5-2500K@4.7GHz | Noctua NH-D14 (NF-P12 + NF-P14) | MSI Z77 MPOWER | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 1866MHz HX318C10FBK2/16 2x8GB | MSI N580GTX Lightning Extreme Edition (3GB, 910MHz/1195MHz) | AOC e2236Swa | Win10 64bit | Old Good Saitek X52 Pro Virtute Duce, Comite Fortuna! :pilotfly:[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:pilotfly:
Gloom Demon Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I can report, that if I hold down the mouse button, then I get the same FPS as in 1.2.6 for the Su25-T. Another thing I noticed is that the ingame FPS meter behaves strangely - it shows a frequent variation of 60 to 50 FPS in my case, whilst if I hold down the mouse button it stays stable at 60. AMD Ryzen 3600, Biostar Racing B850GT3, AMD Rx 580 8Gb, 16384 DDR4 2900, Hitachi 7K3000 2Tb, Samsung SM961 256Gb SSD, Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, Samsung S24F350 24'
sobek Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Thread duplicated from open beta bug forum to allow for chit chat. Bug reports go here please. Edited December 19, 2013 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Dudester22 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Beta patch stutters like hell for me Unfortunately I feel they have taken a big step back with this patch. I have lost nearly 8 FPS down to 52 FPS from 60FPS. But worst still and something I thought I had seen the last of micro stutters are back for me. Totally ruins the Sim for me when I am constantly getting micro stutters on the map and also trackir. I though the patch was supposed to increase the FPS not make things worse. i hope they don't release in this state because I'll have to walk away from the game if they do.
Snoopy Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Nothing constructive to see here.... v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
Mustang Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Issue is known, see this workaround until it gets fixed http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=117800
SkateZilla Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Unfortunately I feel they have taken a big step back with this patch. I have lost nearly 8 FPS down to 52 FPS from 60FPS. But worst still and something I thought I had seen the last of micro stutters are back for me. Totally ruins the Sim for me when I am constantly getting micro stutters on the map and also trackir. I though the patch was supposed to increase the FPS not make things worse. i hope they don't release in this state because I'll have to walk away from the game if they do. First: It's a Volunteer Open Beta, if you're just gonna fly it and complain without submitting anything constructive, well, it's counter-productive to the point of the open beta. Second: Improved FPS specifically isnt in the Changelog, a few effects were changed to allow better FPS Specifically CBU-83/103. Third: Search Function, There was no need to start a new thread for this. (Merged). Fourth: It isn't released in this state, it's an Open Beta, not a Release candidate. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
hypersonik Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 :doh: DCSW wishlist : multi-crew :D GTX480, i52400, 8GB, Samsung EVO 840 250G SSD, Raid 0 2TB =~45 FPS [Maxed] [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dudester22 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 First: It's a Volunteer Open Beta, if you're just gonna fly it and complain without submitting anything constructive, well, it's counter-productive to the point of the open beta. So posting that there are micro stutters and a drop of 8FPS is not submitting anything constructive? If problems are not reported how are they going to be fixed? Yes I may of posted it in the wrong place, but that's all. One of the testers have said it is a mouse problem and thanks to him that is what was causing it for me. But how would I have found that out without posting?
sobek Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 [...] The problem is that you flew a beta patch and expected release performance. If you want a problem free experience, DO NOT touch an open beta. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Dudester22 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Yeah, I'm just going to go back to 1.26 until they fix the mouse thingy. Bit hard to keep the left mouse button held down when it's needed for the switches ect.
SkateZilla Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 So posting that there are micro stutters and a drop of 8FPS is not submitting anything constructive? If problems are not reported how are they going to be fixed? Yes I may of posted it in the wrong place, but that's all. One of the testers have said it is a mouse problem and thanks to him that is what was causing it for me. But how would I have found that out without posting? You just posted about performance issues and offered no DXDIAG or anything to link back to the problem, which is not helpful. Simply saying it's broke fix it, or i lost performance fix it isnt going to provide information for anything. One of the testers have said it is a mouse problem and thanks to him that is what was causing it for me. But how would I have found that out without posting? There's a Poor Performance Thread Already Open in the DCS 1.2.7 Open Beta Forums, which has the Mouse Issue primarily discussed. It's not really where you posted it, but the Manner that you conveyed the problem. Nothing more, nothing less. Have a Nice Day. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Mustang Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Found this workaround useful for the FPS spikes till it gets fixed, turn clicklock on and then once in-sim just hold left button for a few moments and you're good to go
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