JaNk0 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 And if you read the earlier pages, such announcement was coming. Just relax, have a coke and a smile ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
danilop Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) ...This skepticism is strange for lack of better words. You know that story: "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? In a nutshell (if you don't want to read the whole thread and couple of other boards): All this mess started when (former?) head of the team went public and gave a statement that project is basically cancelled due to several reasons, money and internal differences stated as the most prominent. Couple of team members went public with their statements, which basically were about that they don't know what's going on and that project is alive and kicking from their point of view. The community reacted, well, in expected manner, the ED shut down the sub forum, to prevent further damage until dust settles. It seems that resolve is near, but the community has been already bitten once ... until everything is confirmed by the formal statement of the team (it should be very soon), some skepticism is inevitable ... Edited February 14, 2014 by danilop
Flagrum Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 And if you read the earlier pages, such announcement was coming. Just relax, have a coke and a smile ;) You did not understand what I meant with "Paper is patient", eh? :o)
Air_guinness Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Danilop, thanks for that quick summary. That helps to put things in the perspective. @flagrum, I understand but that is not so uncommon with mod teams, which is what this really is. For me as long as there is something being reported on their dev site means there is at least one person committed to it. It is not easy to recover the project after ill dealings with hostile team members, arguments in the team etc...This usually causes delays. I hope they still have all expertise available in the team. Dealing with frustrated fans (customers) does not help either, so i am not surprised that they are not here debating each post.
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 It seems that resolve is near, but the community has been already bitten once ... until everything is confirmed by the formal statement of the team (it should be very soon), some skepticism is inevitable ...2 weeks ... yes, I'm quite sure.
Flagrum Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Danilop, thanks for that quick summary. That helps to put things in the perspective. @flagrum, I understand but that is not so uncommon with mod teams, which is what this really is. For me as long as there is something being reported on their dev site means there is at least one person committed to it. It is not easy to recover the project after ill dealings with hostile team members, arguments in the team etc...This usually causes delays. I hope they still have all expertise available in the team. Dealing with frustrated fans (customers) does not help either, so i am not surprised that they are not here debating each post. I understand all that. And I am sure, everyone involved is doing their best to solve the issues. But claims like "we are still on track" after the incident might have just been attempts to calm down the worries here - and maybe not much more. Why? Because now, after three weeks, it seems that things can not be straightened out so quickly. And considering the severe potential consequences this all could result into (there is quite some money involved) this I find as worring as I find it understandable ... edit: To make it more clear (hopefully :o) - I am not worried that there might be delays of the project. Tbh, if the Mig is released in March or April - I don't care (so much). What worries me is, that things might be more serious than we might have hoped for after the other devs postings here ... and that (still) the whole project as such is in danger. Edited February 14, 2014 by Flagrum
Paradox Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Why does it take 2 weeks to put a statement together and post it? Perhaps they want to have something to demonstrate significant progress along with the statement? I'm maybe too close to the irresponsible end of the speculative posting spectrum here. Edited February 14, 2014 by Paradox
Cobra847 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Two quick things: 1) We've been on track and essentially "back to work as normal" for a significant amount of time now. 2) It's taking us a long time to make a statement / announcement because bureaucratic things need to be in order for that to take place. This does not take a trivial amount of time. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Flagrum Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Two quick things: 1) We've been on track and essentially "back to work as normal" for a significant amount of time now. 2) It's taking us a long time to make a statement / announcement because bureaucratic things need to be in order for that to take place. This does not take a trivial amount of time. So, basically the problems are in fact solved and only formalities stand in the way for a concluding, "official" statement?
Cobra847 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 So, basically the problems are in fact solved and only formalities stand in the way for a concluding, "official" statement? yes. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
SkateZilla Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Good, I need a MIG-21 to shoot down. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
RvETito Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Good, I need a MIG-21 to shoot down. You might have to reconsider yuor needs because those pesky 21's won't be so easy to shoot ;) "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
SkateZilla Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 You might have to reconsider yuor needs because those pesky 21's won't be so easy to shoot ;) it's more like: You shoot down 1 MIG-21, 5 more Roll off the Line to take it's place Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Flagrum Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 yes. Allright, thank you. (and good luck! :o)
T0x1s Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 yes. And is march 30 still confirmed or do you guys need to pull the date back? :)
Revan Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 yes. Woo HOO!! they aren't dead! we will still get the 21!!!!! DCS: F-4E really needs to be a thing!!!!!! Aircraft: A-10C, Ka-50, UH-1H, MiG-21, F-15C, Su-27, MiG-29, A-10A, Su-25, Su-25T, TF-51
Mewle Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Great news. Can't wait for this one! Intel i5 4690k MSI GTX 970 4g gaming edition Asus Z97k Mobo 8Gb Corsair vengeance 1866mhz 120GB Samsung 840 evo Samsung 1TB Spinpoint hdd Windows 10 4 channel surround Hotas Cougar w/ 120mm machined steel extension and elite rudder pedals DIY collective via bu0836x plus some random buttons and knobs Cougar MFDs Running 1920*2104 over 3 screens
upupandaway Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Two quick things: 1) We've been on track and essentially "back to work as normal" for a significant amount of time now. 2) It's taking us a long time to make a statement / announcement because bureaucratic things need to be in order for that to take place. This does not take a trivial amount of time. Thx Cobra. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
Raven68 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Good news indeed. Thanks Cobra! Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
MauganRa84 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Ultra hankerin' for this BEAST! ...Sheila rides on crashing nightingale. Intake eyes leave passing vapor trails... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
racketyjack Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 What happened to the Mig-21? I haven't been here in awhile and noticed the Mig-21 project isn't there anymore. What happened?
cichlidfan Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I haven't been here in awhile and noticed the Mig-21 project isn't there anymore. What happened? It's a long story. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119412 We are being told that all is on track. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
racketyjack Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 WOW! Thanks for the info cichlidfan. Guess I'll be doing some reading to get caught back up.
Paradox Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 WOW! Thanks for the info cichlidfan. Guess I'll be doing some reading to get caught back up. It's quite a silly journey we've been on this last month or so. I'm glad you've got the chance to catch up on it after it's happened (or towards the end of it happening) rather than hanging on in anticipation.
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