This game is so confusing

[EventHorizon]

Omg, this game is so complicated and confusing that its not even entertainment. Its like Im taking an online college course or something.

[javelina1]

Oui!

 

but as you progress, it's an accomplishment. :thumbup: Hang in there.

 

It's an awesome sim!

[msalama]

Sure. But the thing is that some people actually _enjoy_ having themselves challenged while others do not...

[Mike Busutil]

Ace Combat is in the electronic department....

[VincentLaw]

Omg, this game is so complicated and confusing that its not even entertainment. Its like Im taking an online college course or something.

Don't let yourself get overwhelmed by everything at once. Guns and unguided rockets are fairly simple to use and still pack a punch. If you use autostart then all you really have to do to shoot rockets is click DSMS, click a rocket pod, and fire. You don't need to know how to use every system on the airplane to blow stuff up. Save the more complex stuff for later when you feel ready for it.

[EventHorizon]

Don't let yourself get overwhelmed by everything at once. Guns and unguided rockets are fairly simple to use and still pack a punch. If you use autostart then all you really have to do to shoot rockets is click DSMS, click a rocket pod, and fire. You don't need to know how to use every system on the airplane to blow stuff up. Save the more complex stuff for later when you feel ready for it.

 

 

The current issues Im having:

 

my x52pro slider does not engage speed brakes and Im flying over targets

 

when landing with no visability, my ILS is giving me accurate left and right on the gimbal but not altitude direction, so I cant get on the glide path

 

I have a really good card, the Asus Matrix 7970... I want the maximum performance settings for the game but am having trouble finding out exactly what that means. Such as vsync... whether to do 8x etc etc... if someone could post a screen shot of completely maxed out settings I would like to set mine up the same.

[EvilBivol-1]

Stick with it, EH, and don't feel like you need to rush to learn everything. It does take some time. Don't forget to just fly around, shoot random stuff, try out landings, and just have fun in between the "study" missions. Also see if you can get online with someone willing to help out. Learning with a buddy will make it go much faster.

[ironmarc]

You know what? Just quit.

 

This game isn't what you're looking for. If it were, you would be encouraged by the fact that the game is as complex as it is, but instead you're wondering "how come people play this for fun?". The moment I saw the clickable panel and how detailed it is to just start the plane, as opposed to just press a button to increase throttle like some "simulators" do, it got me hooked.

 

If I could go to a college to take classes on how to pilot the A-10, Su-25 and P-51 like I'm doing with this simulator, I would enjoy every single minute of it.

[javelina1]

Stick with it, EH, and don't feel like you need to rush to learn everything. It does take some time. Don't forget to just fly around, shoot random stuff, try out landings, and just have fun in between the "study" missions. Also see if you can get online with someone willing to help out. Learning with a buddy will make it go much faster.

 

Exactly! :thumbup:

 

To the OP, I've been flying DSC for the last 3 months. Take off, land, shoot the gun, then learn the other weapons stores.

 

awesome sim ED! :)

[MadCow]

I think it's really important to understand a few basic things, and this is for everyone who reads and/or posts in this thread and the forum. There's also a lot of good lessons that can be put in other ways in normal life as well.

 

1. There are ALL kinds of people in this world, and with that there are many different things to excite them, make them swear, cry, and jump for joy. No human being is exactly alike, ever. No one should ever give advice as if it's the end all advice, particularly negative, unhelpful advice. Here's looking at you Ironmac.

 

2. With this said, when it comes to gaming there are "generally" (and take that with a grain of salt) 2 types of players. Those who prefer a quick fix, and those who enjoy challenges. Obviously, you can break those groups down even further, but that gets more detailed than what's needed for this particular conversation.

 

3. It's up to the individual to know exactly how they like to game. A good way to look at this is to identify what games you already play, or played in the past, and take a gander at its learning curve. Are you drawn to Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 only? You probably like the quick fix. If that's you, there's NOTHING wrong with that, but picking up a game with a massive learning curve WILL feel non-fun. Arma 2 and Operation Flashpoint are great counter examples as those two shooters (similar to CoD and BF4) have very steep learning curves for shooters. You simply will not survive run and gun style game play in those two.

 

4. If you find yourself enjoying games with large learning curves, then stay patient and take off small pieces at a time. Professional pilots do not learn how to fly this airframe in a month or two. The DO take "collage" classes to learn it. This is a "study" sim. It's as close to the real deal as ED is allowed to give to the public.

 

5. If you decide large learning curves are not your play style, do keep in mind there is a more arcade style system to this game, I think. I had heard it once or twice, but I prefer the sim version so I haven't looked too in depth. If you'd rather play it more casually or relaxed, ask more knowledgeable people. And don't forget Flaming Cliffs 3 fits the niche for people who want a less complicated flight system that they can much more quickly and easily jump right into.

 

That pretty much covers it. I just want to re-iterate that negative comments really don't add anything of value to the discussion or the OP's thoughts and feelings on this discussion. The best thing any of us can do, if we feel we have the time, is to help the OP discover what HE likes, and them help him find a game mode, or maybe even another game that he'd prefer.

[camsr]

You know, that to fly aircraft in the US Air Force requires some college right?

[ralfidude]

You know what? Just quit.

 

This game isn't what you're looking for. If it were, you would be encouraged by the fact that the game is as complex as it is, but instead you're wondering "how come people play this for fun?". The moment I saw the clickable panel and how detailed it is to just start the plane, as opposed to just press a button to increase throttle like some "simulators" do, it got me hooked.

 

If I could go to a college to take classes on how to pilot the A-10, Su-25 and P-51 like I'm doing with this simulator, I would enjoy every single minute of it.

 

 

 

What he said. This isn't for you.

 

I love it when people get this 'realistic simulator' and expect to hop in and play it like it's "Battlesh*t" or S"h*t Thunder".

 

At that point you have completely missed the point of a simulator.

 

So if you don't like it, go elsewhere as this isn't for you.

 

 

Not trying to be a dick, but it's just the truth.

 

Some people love this, others hate it. It's not mainstream for a reason.

[Justo Swank]

What he said. This isn't for you.

 

I love it when people get this 'realistic simulator' and expect to hop in and play it like it's "Battlesh*t" or S"h*t Thunder".

 

At that point you have completely missed the point of a simulator.

 

So if you don't like it, go elsewhere as this isn't for you.

 

 

Not trying to be a dick, but it's just the truth.

 

Some people love this, others hate it. It's not mainstream for a reason.

 

I don't think he is talking about the complexity of the game, but rather some issues he is having.

 

The current issues Im having:

 

my x52pro slider does not engage speed brakes and Im flying over targets

 

when landing with no visability, my ILS is giving me accurate left and right on the gimbal but not altitude direction, so I cant get on the glide path

 

I have a really good card, the Asus Matrix 7970... I want the maximum performance settings for the game but am having trouble finding out exactly what that means. Such as vsync... whether to do 8x etc etc... if someone could post a screen shot of completely maxed out settings I would like to set mine up the same.

 

But I do agree with what you said in general.

[Harzach]

I don't think he is talking about the complexity of the game, but rather some issues he is having.

 

Well...

 

Omg, this game is so complicated and confusing that its not even entertainment. Its like Im taking an online college course or something.

 

To the issue of OP's speedbrakes, why are you trying to engage them on an attack run in the first place? The A-10 needs all of the speed/energy it can get, and dumping all of that energy right before you need it most is a recipe for disaster.

[Sel94]

It all pays off in the end, like other people said a good thing to do is learn one thing at a time. Think of one thing you want to do, maybe like use mavericks or laser guided bombs, then learn the best you can, there are plenty of resources here and on Youtube. Just keep at it and you can be a super awesome ace that will shoot down all the people discouraging you here :P

 

 

 

Also these can make learning more fun

[r813]

Here is a screen shot of my settings for an AMD 6900 series card, you should be able to go higher with your graphics card. Stick with the game and try to learn it a little bit at a time like some others have said. Don't be discouraged by those who say just quit. I forget stuff as I spend months away with work then have to come back to it.

[Tone71]

Let's not overlook the "Game" mode. Rather than suggesting the OP look elsewhere, which seems kinda rude, why not suggest this?

EventHorizon, stick with it and you'll soon pick up the basics. If not, give "Game" mode a go; that'll get you airborne and shooting stuff in no time! :)

[r813]

Just seen that 1.2.7 is released.

 

From update page Quote:

 

DCS: A-10C Warthog

Added 2 new fictions Canadian skins: RCAF 409 Squadron and RCAF 442 Snow Scheme.

Aircraft can once again receive a complete aerial refueling transfer.

TACAN dial controls have been corrected.

Command bars now working correctly during an ILS approach.

The liquid oxygen regulator is no longer dependent on electrical power.

The ADI pointers have been corrected as well as the pitch steering bar stow function.

Added mouse-clickable mirrors that allow them to be stowed or un-stowed.

Corrected data when entering altitudes in the CDU and altitude alerts; the numbers changed when entered in the system.

Corrected Radio Menu not being available for the A-10C

 

My graphics settings were for 1.2.6 so might need changing slightly. I have not tried it yet.

[LcSummers]

Stick with it. It takes time but its worth. For me its the best sim i ever had and i play sim since the Commodore 64.

 

I love it.

[AtaliaA1]

I think it's really important to understand a few basic things, and this is for everyone who reads and/or posts in this thread and the forum. There's also a lot of good lessons that can be put in other ways in normal life as well.

 

1. There are ALL kinds of people in this world, and with that there are many different things to excite them, make them swear, cry, and jump for joy. No human being is exactly alike, ever. No one should ever give advice as if it's the end all advice, particularly negative, unhelpful advice. Here's looking at you Ironmac.

 

2. With this said, when it comes to gaming there are "generally" (and take that with a grain of salt) 2 types of players. Those who prefer a quick fix, and those who enjoy challenges. Obviously, you can break those groups down even further, but that gets more detailed than what's needed for this particular conversation.

 

3. It's up to the individual to know exactly how they like to game. A good way to look at this is to identify what games you already play, or played in the past, and take a gander at its learning curve. Are you drawn to Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 only? You probably like the quick fix. If that's you, there's NOTHING wrong with that, but picking up a game with a massive learning curve WILL feel non-fun. Arma 2 and Operation Flashpoint are great counter examples as those two shooters (similar to CoD and BF4) have very steep learning curves for shooters. You simply will not survive run and gun style game play in those two.

 

4. If you find yourself enjoying games with large learning curves, then stay patient and take off small pieces at a time. Professional pilots do not learn how to fly this airframe in a month or two. The DO take "collage" classes to learn it. This is a "study" sim. It's as close to the real deal as ED is allowed to give to the public.

 

5. If you decide large learning curves are not your play style, do keep in mind there is a more arcade style system to this game, I think. I had heard it once or twice, but I prefer the sim version so I haven't looked too in depth. If you'd rather play it more casually or relaxed, ask more knowledgeable people. And don't forget Flaming Cliffs 3 fits the niche for people who want a less complicated flight system that they can much more quickly and easily jump right into.

 

That pretty much covers it. I just want to re-iterate that negative comments really don't add anything of value to the discussion or the OP's thoughts and feelings on this discussion. The best thing any of us can do, if we feel we have the time, is to help the OP discover what HE likes, and them help him find a game mode, or maybe even another game that he'd prefer.

 

 

Well Said Sir.

 

I hate it when people expound upon an opinion that serves to show people how intelligent they are (In there mind, of course). That serves no one. Massaging ones Id is of no use to anyone other than the massager. It is equal to masturbation. It feels good to them but helps nothing and no one.

[AtaliaA1]

+1 Rep inbound. this was supposed to be an edit. anyway.

[Xavven]

+rep, dude. If only more people in the world held this philosophy. :thumbup:

 

I think it's really important to understand a few basic things, and this is for everyone who reads and/or posts in this thread and the forum. There's also a lot of good lessons that can be put in other ways in normal life as well.

 

1. There are ALL kinds of people in this world, and with that there are many different things to excite them, make them swear, cry, and jump for joy. No human being is exactly alike, ever. No one should ever give advice as if it's the end all advice, particularly negative, unhelpful advice. Here's looking at you Ironmac.

 

2. With this said, when it comes to gaming there are "generally" (and take that with a grain of salt) 2 types of players. Those who prefer a quick fix, and those who enjoy challenges. Obviously, you can break those groups down even further, but that gets more detailed than what's needed for this particular conversation.

 

3. It's up to the individual to know exactly how they like to game. A good way to look at this is to identify what games you already play, or played in the past, and take a gander at its learning curve. Are you drawn to Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 only? You probably like the quick fix. If that's you, there's NOTHING wrong with that, but picking up a game with a massive learning curve WILL feel non-fun. Arma 2 and Operation Flashpoint are great counter examples as those two shooters (similar to CoD and BF4) have very steep learning curves for shooters. You simply will not survive run and gun style game play in those two.

 

4. If you find yourself enjoying games with large learning curves, then stay patient and take off small pieces at a time. Professional pilots do not learn how to fly this airframe in a month or two. The DO take "collage" classes to learn it. This is a "study" sim. It's as close to the real deal as ED is allowed to give to the public.

 

5. If you decide large learning curves are not your play style, do keep in mind there is a more arcade style system to this game, I think. I had heard it once or twice, but I prefer the sim version so I haven't looked too in depth. If you'd rather play it more casually or relaxed, ask more knowledgeable people. And don't forget Flaming Cliffs 3 fits the niche for people who want a less complicated flight system that they can much more quickly and easily jump right into.

 

That pretty much covers it. I just want to re-iterate that negative comments really don't add anything of value to the discussion or the OP's thoughts and feelings on this discussion. The best thing any of us can do, if we feel we have the time, is to help the OP discover what HE likes, and them help him find a game mode, or maybe even another game that he'd prefer.

[El Hadji]

Omg, this game is so complicated and confusing that its not even entertainment. Its like Im taking an online college course or something.

 

Problem is you mistook this for being a game. It's is actually a simulator (and pretty dang good one) hence the complexity. DCS A-10C is definatly not for everone. I have quite a bit of flight sim experience and I love aviation i general but even I have been to the point of almost giving up sometimes. It IS difficult and it is supposed to be difficult.

 

DCS A-10C doesn't offer 'insta-rewards' to the player. But the feeling you get when you finally understand how to input nav data into the CDU or manage to make a perfect landing in terrible weather beats any feeling you get from games like Ace Combat or HAWX.

 

Again, this experience isn't for everyone. It requires time and patience. But since you aparently have DCS A-10C - give it some time at least. :pilotfly:

[javelina1]

Large learning curves like DCS can make a game literately timeless. I still never get bored of flying the Hog! :thumbup:

 

that's a big 10-4 buddy! I try to learn something new each day with DCSW. Usually I do. :music_whistling:

[javelina1]

I think it's really important to understand a few basic things, and this is for everyone who reads and/or posts in this thread and the forum. There's also a lot of good lessons that can be put in other ways in normal life as well.

 

1. There are ALL kinds of people in this world, and with that there are many different things to excite them, make them swear, cry, and jump for joy. No human being is exactly alike, ever. No one should ever give advice as if it's the end all advice, particularly negative, unhelpful advice. Here's looking at you Ironmac.

 

2. With this said, when it comes to gaming there are "generally" (and take that with a grain of salt) 2 types of players. Those who prefer a quick fix, and those who enjoy challenges. Obviously, you can break those groups down even further, but that gets more detailed than what's needed for this particular conversation.

 

3. It's up to the individual to know exactly how they like to game. A good way to look at this is to identify what games you already play, or played in the past, and take a gander at its learning curve. Are you drawn to Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 only? You probably like the quick fix. If that's you, there's NOTHING wrong with that, but picking up a game with a massive learning curve WILL feel non-fun. Arma 2 and Operation Flashpoint are great counter examples as those two shooters (similar to CoD and BF4) have very steep learning curves for shooters. You simply will not survive run and gun style game play in those two.

 

4. If you find yourself enjoying games with large learning curves, then stay patient and take off small pieces at a time. Professional pilots do not learn how to fly this airframe in a month or two. The DO take "collage" classes to learn it. This is a "study" sim. It's as close to the real deal as ED is allowed to give to the public.

 

5. If you decide large learning curves are not your play style, do keep in mind there is a more arcade style system to this game, I think. I had heard it once or twice, but I prefer the sim version so I haven't looked too in depth. If you'd rather play it more casually or relaxed, ask more knowledgeable people. And don't forget Flaming Cliffs 3 fits the niche for people who want a less complicated flight system that they can much more quickly and easily jump right into.

 

That pretty much covers it. I just want to re-iterate that negative comments really don't add anything of value to the discussion or the OP's thoughts and feelings on this discussion. The best thing any of us can do, if we feel we have the time, is to help the OP discover what HE likes, and them help him find a game mode, or maybe even another game that he'd prefer.

 

+2 Rep! Nice!