I had to bow down and get a Cyborg Evo, replacing both of my Sidewinder Precision 2s. I mean I used those jokers for years and just were great to use, excellent ergonomics, and never a problem ever. The Evo is okay, but the central throttle is a little annoying, especially since you may accidentally throttle down when you're pressing on it. Plus I finally had to recalibrate it, and now that I got it done, I'm happy with it, but still miss the Precision 2s.