F-2

I always liked the looks of this plane

This request is inspired by Ninelines post in the F-20 thread I’ve always loved the Su-27M. This post got me thinking, if we can’t have a two seat Ka-52 but could have a limited service single seat Ka-50, might an Su-27m be ok? The Su-27m is more or less a single seat Su-30sm in terms of role. Some points. Su-27m would probably have similar performance to an Su-33 but slightly less draggy airframe and higher G limit. Same fly by wire system. Shouldn't effect demand for air superiority Flanker like Su-27 or Su-30mkk. Has a multimode plantar array radar, N011 bars, the mechanical scan version of the N011m pesa used on the SM (last two aircraft had pesa bars as well). Native R-77 compatible compared to J-11 jerry rigged solution. has support for a large array of Soviet air to ground weapons. Most development was Soviet rather then Russian, seems to effect how doable aircraft are. in addition to prototypes and preproduction aircraft, three production jets were produced and operated by the Russian Air Force for a few years, same number as Su-25T. anyway not sure how plausible it is but I thought I would suggest it.

https://aviationarchives.blogspot.com/2024/01/mig-25pdpds-combat-employment-manual.html?m=1 MIG-25PD weapons employment

From Gums F-16.net https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=58859 https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=56068 “NFAF-228 F-20 Tigershark” by Paul Metz apparently has some performance charts

CIA has the F-13 and a number of other mig manuals on their website

I thought about this a few time. I believe it is correct but our mirage does have a more powerful engine then the India mirage did at the time, I don’t know if that can or cannot make the difference in sustained turning. Mig has excellent thrust to weight but is a draggy design and suffers somewhat in sustained turning. On the other hand the mirage is a delta wing and even with the new engine it doesn’t match the migs thrust. It does however have relaxed stability with its fly by wire which cuts down on drag in a turn. I’m not sure, I think with the new engine the mirage an fulcrum should be comparable. the instantaneous turn rate is interesting. If the fulcrum did show itself to have a higher instantaneous turn rate in testing it wouldn’t matter if the engine changed. Both aircraft have excellent ITR, though I heard from a Fulcrum pilot it’s difficult to fully exploit (he also fought the mirage and was disappointed by it). I don’t know if the Fulcrum is under performing or the mirage over performing.

I wouldn’t bring it up then. This is just arguing over alternative history. The Cold War never turned hot in real life and arguing if a fictional scenario would have happed in say 1982 or 1987 or whatever is kinda moot. You’re unlikely to get every single module to meet at the same year.

Rafale would be cool. Years ago there was a Rafale sim being developed by an engineer who worked on the real thing. Ended up running into licensing issues but it was supported by the French navy who planned to use it as a training sim. interview here. https://web.archive.org/web/20070324213332/http://www.france-simulation.com/articles/interview/interview_6.htm I have the 70 some page manual for the sim. Also have a thesis on the M88 with thrust curves, a technical book on the Rafale’s carrier qualification and tons of what I guess are white papers on the aircraft’s radar, mission computer, and other systems.

They did take 52 AMRAAM to the gulf. The 33rd carried them for scud hunting. Initially they were going to leave them at home till the bugs worked out but brought (I guess AMRAAM has superior qualities to Sparrow against ballistic missiles?) apparently they always intended to be able to use the LRIP missiles if the need arose. https://books.google.com/books?id=HqLVPFYIOJMC&pg=PA984&dq=amraam+lrip&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi3tpyD_9CDAxVKFjQIHQ6NCA8Q6AF6BAgPEAM#v=onepage&q=amraam lrip&f=false while it seems the missile deficiencies proved to not be a problem in actual practice. https://books.google.com/books?id=cNTioltU3N4C&pg=PA430&dq=amraam+carry+gulf+war&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiaxZrIgdGDAxU5GTQIHedZADQQ6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=amraam carry gulf war&f=false F-15 with AIM-120 in desert storm https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/f-15-eagles-were-the-deadliest-birds-of-desert-storm/

Correct the 33rd fighter wing was carrying AIM-120 from at least 1989 and they were delivered in 1988 https://nara.getarchive.net/media/a-33rd-tactical-fighter-wing-f-15c-eagle-aircraft-makes-its-landing-approach-052343 https://picryl.com/media/a-33rd-tactical-fighter-wing-f-15c-eagle-aircraft-passes-along-the-coast-during-6e48c5 https://nara.getarchive.net/media/a-33rd-tactical-fighter-wing-f-15c-eagle-aircraft-pulls-into-a-climb-during-3b7ff0 https://www.alamy.com/a-33rd-tactical-fighter-wing-f-15c-eagle-aircraft-banks-into-a-turn-during-a-flight-out-of-eglin-air-force-base-fla-the-aircraft-is-carrying-two-aim-9-sidewinder-missiles-on-each-wing-and-four-aim-120-advanced-medium-range-air-to-air-missiles-amraams-on-its-fuselage-weapons-stations-country-gulf-of-mexico-image504289865.html https://books.google.com/books?id=PWMFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA836&dq=33rd+fighter+wing+amraam+ 1989&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjpqaDQ5NCDAxW-LFkFHfSjBvkQ6AF6BAgOEAM#v=onepage&q=33rd fighter wing amraam 1989&f=false

Yes! Very pleased to see that

Makes sense, nothings wrong with it and there is no more fidelity to be gained. If they ever need to adjust one it would be bad if they couldn’t automatically adjust the other.

As realistic radar modeling is becoming the norm in DCS, first with Razbam’s Mirage 2000 and F-15E and now with Heatblur’s F-4, I thought the Fulcrum would be a great opportunity for ED to join in. The Fulcrum’s radar is well documented and ED has SME on staff here is a lecture series from Ukraine’s national Aerospace University and a radar book that I believe ED has used before. https://studfiles.net/nau/145/folder:11012/#5383849 https://studfiles.net/preview/5383872/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2378427/ Some other potential sources are the US National Air and Space Intelligence Center which recovered an Iraqi export standard N019 at the end of the Gulf War (HAVE NOSE) and AFOTEC which until recently operated ex Moldovan MiG-29 9.13 inherited from the USSR.

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/OEpxqudk47SN5A Aircraft MiG-25P. Technical description. Book II. Armament (1972) https://disk.yandex.ru/d/-VNMlXARKNYTCg Aircraft MiG-25P. Technical description. Book V: Electronic equipment (1972). https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA103123.pdf USAF intelligence briefing https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553702.pdf briefing to president Ford https://www.scribd.com/document/635909943/MIG-25RB aerodynamics manual RB

So awhile ago I came across this 1995 AWST article That’s a pretty interesting claim. While most of the J-10 ended up using domestic systems I was curious about the MFD. so I looked up the Chilean F-5 Tiger III, sure enough. pretty similar to the JF-17? Apparently this was a risk reduction decision as China had never developed an MFD for a fighter aircraft and I.A.I. was staffed by combat veterans who knew what they wanted in a man machine interface. two separate J-10 crash hud videos, pretty much the same as the JF-17 and F-5EIII https://alert5.com/2020/10/17/hud-footage-from-j-10-that-crashed-in-guilin-last-month/ https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1ws411r7sV but while the JF-17/J-10B/C/CE use an evolved MFD system with large LCD flat screens, color, and custom changes. The J-10A and F-5EIII seem to even use the same hardware and CRT MFDs

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/MiG-25PD Flight and Combat Employment Training Manual-OCR.pdf Iraqi PD manual 1980. Actually modestly superior to Soviet PD with addition of SPO-15 and KDS-155.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-10/press-releases/us-buys-moldovan-aircraft-prevent-acquisition-iran https://nuke.fas.org/guide/russia/airdef/980500-mig-airman.htm https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002016710/

Несколько месяцев назад я отправил письмо в ВВС США по поводу молдавских 9.13, которые они приобрели в 1997 году. Если они ответят положительно, заинтересуется ли ED?

https://studfiles.net/nau/145/folder:11012/#5383849 https://studfiles.net/preview/5383872/ https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2378427/ any chance for a physics based radar model?

http://urbanpk.com/pakdef/pakmilitary/airforce/ac/f7pg.htm I found this article on the flight test program. It seems like an beast.

Thank you! If I’m honest to date I mostly focused on the J-8 and didn’t think that the J-7 anything more than a mig-21 clone. I only recently discovered how substantially the later models were improved and really have taken a look at them to my surprise.

Really neat! I only recently found out about the late model J-7 and their increased maneuverability. Just how mobile are they? Can they keep up with more modern jets.

How large is the Antenna for the APG-66 used by the J-8? the APG-66 used by the F-16, F-4EJ Kai, HAWK 200, and A-4 all have different antenna to fit the nose of their fighters. What is the case for the J-8 PP?

https://web.archive.org/web/20060512131657/http://www.irkut.com/en/news/index.php?id65=127 The first two batches had more limited capabilities. Think it might be possible to make the jump to official module developing one of them?

Link?