Ramius007

To adding something new to existing Mig 29 fleet, NATO Mig 29 woud be salution, level of modernization that took place in 2013 is well known, with detailed list of upgrdes, yet it's hard to find black on white what new armament is availble now, can assume those are JDAM's, laser guided bombs with lasing provided by wingman/ground operator, possibly HARM fired in raw 60's era way. This would be both full fidelity Mig, but also not totally useless modern fighter bomber, with slighty diffrent to original Russian cockpit, feets/knots HUD, more radios, link 16 and tac situation MFD, new mission computer. Guess including something like Mig-29PL wouldnt set ED members on Russian law fire, just not sure if interest in such Mig would be on same level compered to original one.

It's preety str8forward. What we have now is a mess, both pve and pvp, creating issues of artificially boosting some weapons based on 3rd party developer wishes. In older FC3 Mig 29 compaign we have R-77 capable Mig 29 tackling F-16C with Amraams all in early 90's, ffs. On MP servers it's same, everybody wants to take their favorite aircraft to MODERN setup, so we have 2 F-14's and 1 with buffed missile, like F-14 wasnt capablt aircraft in it's time frame. I was interested in buying F-5 during Halloween sale, just to find out that a lot of weapons were missing, not only Shrikes, but also L and M Sidewinders or Chinese/IRussian weapons, this could be easily fixed with country and era focused loadouts, this would also make balancing in MP much easier without relying on poorly made or unrealistic mods.

After finishing over half of missions everything is working fine in 2.8, intermediate difficulty, but quite immersive. Can only reccomend

Hopefully one day DCS get to a point where most advanced Russian plane you can fly is not Su-25T, sadly it's not a joke, even old Su 24 would be upgrade to what redfor have to offer in A2G

A lot of time passed, but not much changed, still no competetive redfor air superiority aircraft. What I found hillarious in this thread is that nobody have problem that J-11 use ONLY Russian missiles in any modern scenario, lets be sirious, how many Russian missiles China really bought, and how many of them are really operational on like thousands of planes air force. It's like ~1% of entire weapon stock, If anything, we should rather remove ALL Russian missiles from J-11a and replace them with Chinese variants, if we are not agreeing that J-11A can even fire R-77 and i m preety sure R-77 stock was very low anwyay, then even Russian SARH should be replaced with Chinese SARH of the time. Another issue is that we dont have date based loadout in DCS, this leads to old Russia vs Turkey campaign in FC 3 in the 90's having R-77 capable Fulcrum C vs Turkish Amraam capable F-16C... It's more a systemic issue with DCS, and yeah, of course Redfor need better missiles, but this should not kill realism, I do not belive that early PL-12 was better than R-77, so from practical POV it shouldnt matter and I dont think that J-11A would be a taker of all most advanced Chinese missiles either, thare are more capable planes in China current arsenal that can simply make more use of better missiles. I also disagree that giving J-11A Chinese weapons would cripple Jeff sale, it's even hard to consider JF-17 a real RedFor plane, cmon open source avionics, with American parts and weapons produced in Pakistan. its appealing bird on it's own, dont have it yet, but certinly one of more interesting ones if you are into modern jets, and on my steam wishlist currently