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Pretty good suggestion really! I'd quite like seeing this, yes.

This just won't die will this... No, adding basic infantry controls won't make it even a rough equivalent to ARMA, including the first one from 2001, and it won't entice any ARMA player to jump ship, or even try DCS just because. And adding anything more than that is both out of scope and even at times counterproductive for DCS. Being able to lean or switch weapons won't make ground level detail look any better, nor will it make building interiors modeled. Without which it'll remain nothing more than a novelty to joke around with when bored. And making ground level textures and details and object density as good as an FPS as well as makin building interiors modeled is anathema to having a well performing flight sim that covers huge swathes of land while still performing well. Look at 90 percent of user complaints about DCS, do they tend to prefer it to perform better or allow them to be GI? What's needed to really much improve ground war experience in DCS is giving ground AI a huge overhaul instead. Like soldiers having loadouts portion of such an FPS can be helpful, ie give most infantryman the ability to use and anti tank weapon etc. And to make the "RTS" control aspect of ground units with combined arms module much better too. Let FPS games be that and flight sims be flight sims is the answer here and no, it's not coming from a place of narrow mindedness. It's more from understanding huge differences in priorities of the genres and the fact that engineering anything is often an art of compromises. Also any effort that'd be put into a tacked on FPS experience here would be effort not put into making ground AI much better than it is, which is something that's really needed.

No wonder I agree with about 0.003% of your review :)) Still, thx for posting it anyway, the more and the more diverse the views, the merrier I guess.

It looks like we'll get it on all versions when the missile is ready.

To be fair, F1M is relatively modest when it comes to these sorts of modernizations on older aircraft. There are quite a lot like it, but imo it is more interesting to count more in depth modernizations. In Mirage F1's case, that would be MF2000 ASTRAC upgrade for Moroccan Air Force. It gets modern avionics, I think either RDI or even RDY radar, potent new weapons like MICA, Damocles targeting pod etc. A-4 had a few like that too: A-4AR Fightinghawk, A-4KU Kahu, A-4S. F-5 also got F-5EM, F-5S, F-5 Tiger III. For F-4 there are F-4EJ-Kai, F-4 ICE, F-4AUP, F-4E Kurnass 2000, F-4E Terminator 2020. MiG-21: MiG-21Bison, MiG-21LanceR-A and LanceR-C. Mirage III and V got the ROSE program for Pakistani Airforce. For Kfirs there is the Block 60, and I think there may be a similar one for Cheetah too. These are the ones I know of anyway. Today most of these are on their legs of course and the rest are already retired.

Hun is a cool aircraft, and of the kind that is one of my favorites in DCS. I'd really welcome one. It'd go really well with MiG-19, and seeing that 19 seems to have carved a niche to itself online and has fans there, it isn't hard to imagine that F-100 would fit about as well but on the other side of the fence. It would also make a quite nice fighter bomber.

I guess we do need a screenies thread for this particular beauty So here goes!

What EE will have on top of CE: - INS navigation system - Option for a better RWR - Aerial refueling The rest will be the same, no CCIP etc. For those you will need F1M.

Check the "issues" page on mod's github page.

I will assume that you are meaning the Super 530D. It shouldn't afaik. While right now many AI F1s have it, I am assuming it is a placeholder. It should be able to use Super 530F. Unlike what one would expect, F is the earlier and less capable of two, but it will still be a lot better than R530s. I think it is roughly equivalent to AIM-7F but not sure. No better heatseekers, same missiles. Also not sure about more countermeasures either. EE will be the exact same as CE when it comes to bombing and other sorts of ground attack. It will, however, be able to do aerial refueling, and will also have an INS navigation system. It will also have the option of equipping a better RWR. As for the radar thing, both the CE and EE we have get an upgraded Cyrano IVM, which isn't quite the same as yet more upgraded one on F1M, but pretty close. The radar we have is already capable of locking a target at a range quite long enough for Super 530F even as far as I know, and later when Aerges implements the missile, CE will get it too afaik. F1M's radar will have better air to ground capabilities I think, and maybe slightly better look-down capability. All things being equal, it has no business trying to BVR joust with anything 4th gen, be it a teen series, or Flanker, or even Fulcrum. But it still prove victorious with ambushes etc. Iraqi F1EQs did shoot down some Iranian F-14s, but they've also lost some of their numbers against them. No. None of the Spanish versions had a TGP, and frankly, as far as I know, before the much later Moroccan MF2000 ASTRAC upgrade, the only F1s with a targeting pod was Iraqi F1EQ5 and EQ6s, which had either ATLIS or ATLIS II, probably former not sure.

You should still be able to call up the radio menu, choose Ground Crew, and then Rearm.

Pretty sad though, because MiG-27K would be a cool complement to Su-17M4 or Su-22M4 studios seem to be fighting over, whereas a 23BN would be "same thing but worse" I am very partial to a 27K, and I know this sounds like "muh capabiliteeez", but they'd really complement each other nicely with the 17M4, one would be with Kaira optronic system thus a sort of "pseudo-tgp" and could find targets/self lase laser guided stuff through it, while the other would have the crazy payload, and more varied SEAD capability etc. Regardless though, I'm very happy/hopeful for an eventual 22M4 or 17M4, a good full fidelity red attacker should be fun, and would go well with the mounting number of 70s-80s Cold War birds.

Yeah, while I personally don't do online myself, I know that there are 2-3 fairly popular Cold War only servers, Enigma and Alpenwolf being the two foremost afaik. I recall Enigma saying they'll feature it on Blue side on the Caucasus map and Red on Syria map.

You've been in the forums long enough to know early access more or less never takes just months, assuming you weren't just lurking and was actively in DCS Hind seems almost complete, and that took slightly over a year assuming it leaves EA in one of these months. That is one of the quickest I remember in DCS since late 2013 when I started using it. Considering F1 will include 4 variants, and is the first complex jet from Aerges, I would assume it will take a bit, but not even devs themselves can answer the question you ask. As for a roadmap, in a recent ED newsletter, Aerges' current plans were shared: Finishing remaining systems on CE, creating INS NAV system and refueling systems to release EE, working on multicrew and giving BE, and starting work on M. If you expect a roadmap with dates, let me tell you, that you are expecting the wrong thing

Mirage 2000C is just getting retired nowadays afaik, and no, it didn't even get much in the way of updates from what we have in sim. So it's modern. You trolling?

IMO: - F-14, 15, 16, 18 as well as MiG-29 and Su-27: There's little point in comparison. If we assume everything being neural, these will win 9/10, possibly more. Doesn't matter guns only, WVR missiles, or BVR. Iraqis did have some success, but those were ambushes and still the exchange ratio wasn't in favor of the Mirage afaik. - F4, especially the slatted F-4E's we have: I think Mirage F1 will more often be the winner in WVR fights, be it with missiles or guns. Slatted F-4E can fare a little better, and it'll also have thrust advantage, but overall the Mirage will be the more nimble and easier to keep controlled bird out of two imo. BVR, is interesting. Mirage's radar can do *some* lookdown, from what I understand a lot more so than at least the earlier F-4's radar. It also seems to be fairly straightforward to use. But F-4 will have twice the missiles, and likely more countermeasures too. Unless/until Mirage gets Super 530F (that'll likely happen we get the F-4 anyway), with only R530s Mirage will be very disadvantaged regardless. With Super 530F though, they should be roughly the same, perhaps even slightly better than AIM-7Fs F-4 will get. - F-5E, I think they'll be quite close in dogfighting performance, Mirage will have better overall thrust probably. F-5E can use uncaging feature with AIM-9P and P5 missiles, this doesn't seem to be a feature for the F1. But overall missile options seem to be very close between the two. Also Mirage's close in quick acquisiton modes seem to be better. When it comes to longer ranged stuff though, F-5 just doesn't have any. R530s won't be overly useful against a vigilant F-5 imo, but once Super 530F is around, that one will be a significant asset in this comparison. Also, in a dogfight scenario, carrying those bulky 530s, or even Super 530s may end up being more of a hindrance than an asset for the Mirage. - MiG-21Bis: I believe MiG wins the acceleration and climbing contests between the two, as well as low speed/high AoA handling. However, I'd think Mirage's peak turn performance will be better, and cockpit ergonomics are also better. I do think there is a chance for this to be the most threatening of the oldie fighters against the Mirage in dogfights, but MiG is rather hard to fly well while dogfighting. So it'll take a skilled MiG pilot to capitalize on it potentially being dangerous to Mirage. When it comes to radar jousting though, once Super 530F is a thing, MiG will need to approach the things very defensively. - MiG-23MLA: BVR fights, I think MiG will handily outperform the Mirage. Maybe with Super 530F it will be somewhat more even, but overall MiG has everything that matters in BVR on its side: better radar, more reliable look down capability, overall better missiles, much better speed and acceleration, IRST system, medium ranged IR guided R-24T missiles... only caveat is normally MLA doesn't get any countermeasures, but we'll get the Iraqi modifications which bolt on some as an option. WVR though, I personally thing 7 out of 10 Mirage can handle it. In South African service, originally they didn't do well with rear aspect Magic Is against mostly all aspect R-60M equipped MiG-23s apparently, but our Mirage will have AIM-9JULI available to it. If you purely look at numbers, MiG-23MLA can turn ok, but getting good dogfighting performance out of 23 was notoriously difficult and while from ML on improvements were made, only the last version, the MLD can be said to have mostly overcome those issues. Mirage III: Shouldn't be too much of a problem really, with missile options limited to Magic Is, it may have some chance perhaps, but overall F1 was designed overcome its dogfighting issues. Draken: Sadly we don't have one mostly shares the missile issues with Mirage III afaik, though it may have eventually gotten decent AIM-9J and or P variants, perhaps. It should be an interesting match up, but I think overall Mirage would be happier in the fight. I don't know as much about J35 as I would like to TBH.

Yeah, and I don't even know if the radar on it is supposed to support Super 530F. I'm not so sure on that one tbh, but for now I'll thrust in Aerges on it, it'd be odd for them to choose including it if it wasn't viable, and leaving out 4 heaters. Obvs, the right thing would have been leaving them all out in that case :P. Afaik EE and EDA had mostly the same radar, and majority of all F1s in Spanish service had that radar version fitted to them even CEs, so I feel like fitting of S530F really isn't far fetched if that was indeed the case. It'd just be a case of "it could, but we didn't buy the thing", and there's even a switch on the armament panel that you're supposed to throw down for 530 and up for S530.

Yes, I'm aware, hence why I've started with "to each their own (biased preferences :D)" Agree with Raz's plans being some ways off... I am very interested in MiG-23MLA, Mirage III, English Electric Lightning, Pucara, Super Tucano etc, but it looks like anything from Razbam is going to be a while yet in future, what with F-15E releasing, and any remaining bits on existing modules getting ironed out, MiG releasing etc. Edit: I'd also definitely not say no to Tornado IDS and/or GR1, I prefer other stuff I've listed more myself, but Tornado would be quite cool too, same goes for F-111.

Which aren't F1CEs, apples and oranges, and I'm sure you know that?

A mid E and a late E was by far my most desired Phantoms, so I'm already happy, anything else is a bonus for me that may or may not interest me. That said, some naval Phantoms are indispensable to complete the legend that is this family even I personally am not as interested in them. But it's highly like Heatblur's next Phantom module in line after the two Es will be a naval Phantom pack, and it doesn't feel too far fetched an assumption that it will also likely include two variants to represent two different states of navy Phantoms, maybe a J and S, may be an early J and a later one, these options would be roughly in line with the time period of E variants. Or perhaps they'll do older things like B or N. I personally think, if it proves possible J and S would be the most interesting package. British Phantoms are interesting in their own way, but may prove too niche, as well as potentially tricky in finding the necessary information. If they are made though, I will most likely get them, if out of curiosity alone. F-4G Wild Weasel would be cool too, but EW aircraft in DCS still seems like a bridge too far, for now.

To each their own, but I'd much, much prefer anything else listed in this thread, including a Mirage F1 vol2 as imo just F1EQ5/EQ6 alone would be more interesting to get in DCS than more Harriers. Razbam will eventually make a gen1 Harrier or two anyway, it is still in their plans afaik.

Hi, latest version here: https://github.com/erdenizsanlav/Dcs-Dismounts/releases/tag/v0.9.2-beta allows you to add 7-men squads to anything using this function now

I'd say kind of. JH-7 seems like it leans more heavily towards anti-ship roles, but still there seems to be some overlap: both can carry boatloads of bombs to drop with a TGP for example. Also I wouldn't expect JH-7 to offer much in the way of self escorting if push come to air-to-air shove. PLAAF and PLANAF also have Su-30MKK and the more local-ish J-16 Flanker variants, and those imo are more of a direct analogue to the F-15E. Also, sadly I don't think we're getting any of the types mentioned here as flyables in DCS any time soon... probably not even as AI so... yeah...

Yeah, there is some myth and embellishment with F-104s widow maker fame but I'd still say it isn't %100 myth, and the aircraft, while interesting in its own right, isn't really the coolest thing around to fly in most cases due to being suited neither to any sort of dogfighting nor to most ground attack mission types. It is still something historically significant, and would still add something to Cold War landscape in DCS which is already becoming quite great. But it is still an aircraft I remain not that interested in, nor really excited for. I'd much prefer things like Jaguar, Mirage III, F-100, MiG-27K, and especially the Draken which, while may not have seen too much in the way of active combat, is an absolute hoot to fly and put up against similar throughbreds like MiG-21, F-5, F-8, Mirage III etc