WinterH

Edge 540: a sleek and pretty racer with spirit! Lots of thanks to the team that developed this for us to enjoy!

Could be your shareders, did you guys try to delete whatever's in your fxo and metashaders under your dcs user folder?

These two are such a great match up, so similar, yet so different. Though, I must say, if you though F-86 was difficult, MiG will probably not be what you are looking for. Very broadly: -F-86 has quite a bit better instantenous turn potential, rolls a lot better, dives really well, and has a higher top speed. 6 high fire rate and flat shooting .50 cals, all around the nose, couple with a decent gun sight makes it decently capable at hitting things, but as it stands, they are among the weaker and more frustrating guns in DCS due to damage model being what it is. Visibility out of cockpit is excellent, magnificent, lovely! Her controls are lovely, only when you get close to Mach 1 will you feel roll controls getting real wonky. -MiG-15 has lots of thrust for its weight. Its acceleration is much better, and climb rate is also much better. Also thanks to having lots of power, if fight drags down to a slow speed turnnig contest, MiG can sustain turns better than the Saber. However, her controls are a lot more clunky overall, and requires a good effort from pilot to extract these strengths. Moreover, as your speed gets closer to Mach 1, aircraft's controls will become very sluggish. Also, she's more capricious, as AoA increases, she'll complain and fight you a lot more than the Saber. Guns are a lot different too. 2 x 23mm and 1 x 37mm cannons have less velocity and less fire rate compared to F-86, and gunsight isn't nearly as sophisticated, but when you hit, unlike the Saber's guns, these will obliterate the target. Finally, there's the canopy. From a cursory look from outside, it looks like a similar bubble canopy. This erroneous feeling gets dissipated immediately inside the cockpit. Seems like russians took all the efforts to make visibility as bad as it can be, with very thick framing, as well as a full length strut at the top blocking vision in imporant directions. Then there's air to ground potential: Saber has quite a few options: I love HVAR rockets, because while they do decent damage if you can hit, and Saber can carry up to 16 of them. She also has a sight that can provide some semblance of a (finicky) ccip. Two decent-ish sized bombs can be carried, and saber even has an auto bomb release mode, though I wouldn't say it's good enough for a small point target like a tank. Guns themselves won't do anything against a proper tank, even an older one. But against lighter armor and soft targets, Saber's guns are excellent for strafing. MiG on the other had, can only carry two tiny bombs, 100 kg at most, and you drop them using the force! Not impressive in the least there, but the guns, especially the 37mm is very potent, especially against lighter targets. Probably it's more reliable than even rockets against those. Finally, F-86 can carry a copule of old sidewinders FWIW (not much if you ask me). Normally I tend to be a MiG person, but between these two I must I say enjoy the Saber more. However, MiG is lovely too.

I concur with Enduro, Ercoupe, and BuzzU. The two titles have different stengths. Yes, the IL-2 offers a much more complete WWII experience, and has strong advantages in areas like damage modeling. But when it comes to modeling the aircraft themselves, the flight, the systems etc, I personally find it to be not up to what DCS offers. Personally, I am more interested in what DCS is offering, and I appreciate it might be the other way around for other people. I'd also like to add that I have and enjoy both, for what they are, it's just DCS is ahead for me. Usually, when I fly something there, I tend to feel like "man I can't wait for the DCS version of that to come" to be honest.

People are giving way too much credit to this website. A lot of information there looks outdated, some seems to be listed as in dev or planned with only the slightest hints, and the site doesn't list some new third parties like Flying Iron who are doing A-7. Also lists Belsimtek, which is not a thing anymore, and list AH-1W under their section, which was turned into AH-1F long ago, and still somewhat long ago seem to have gotten postponed. There are many more inaccurate information listed there.

I'd call M-4 to be the pretend realism in this case, as it'd be fairly pointless in DCS. May be as additional feature waaaaaaay down the line after all things ironed out.

Yep, I too am most interested in pre 90s aircraft for DCS. We seem to be on a spell for 4th gen fighters with 90s-2000s avionics galore, and I really want to get 60-80s stuff for the most part. They just fit in with many existing assets, are both capable but limited enough to make them fun and interesting, and red side jets are more likely to happen from this period, finally match ups with some sort of balance can be made for enjoyable scearios, single and multiplayer alike. Still outright despise ED for that whole F-4E out, F-16C in trick :). Mirage III,V,F-1, Super Etendard, every century series except that ugly F-101 :P, F-4E, Buccaneer, Jaguar, Tornado, A-6E, MiG-25, MiG-27, Su-15, Su-17/20/22, Q-5... seriously bring these on! Though to be fair I'd like more modernish variants of a few of those. We will be getting some of them though, F-8J Crusader is in development by Magnitude 3, Mirage F-1 is planned by Aviodev, A-7E is in dev by a new 3rd party studio named Flying Iron Simulations, We have a Mi-24P coming, Deka Ironworks want to do either a Q-5 or J-8 as their next module, Heatblur may end up doing A-6E after the Tomcat is finished, Razbam has many in their pipeline.

Not as far as I know. It may be this year, but that's all we know. Which is fine, as excited as I am, I'd say let them take their time :). Though, from fairly regular videos testers post on youtube, and Polychop share, it seems like it's coming along nicely thus far.

Now that we have lots of post 2000s stuff, I agree that a more multirole and capable Mirage 2000 would be cool to have. Though, I still would prefer a Mirage III before. Want some of that 60s-70s magic back in the sim personally :) I'd also enjoy a Mirage 2000D. I seem to recall that Razbam said they will eventually consider making 2000-5, especially now that they are in direct contact with AdA. But when and if, we don't know yet, Razbam has many irons in the fire.

You know, not everything need to be pristine-perfect-amazing looking. They will probably improve it before release, but even if they don't, I'm very much fine with the way it looks already. I am interested in the systems and flight characteristics first and foremost. If they are good, I can very much live with a "just ok" looking module, and I think it already looked better than just ok. Just my 2 cents anyway.

Sir, your A-4 skins are really awesome :thumbup:

These things were discussed pretty in depth back been many years so I don't recall exactly anymore but I think Aviodev wanted do multiple versions: CE & EE, with perhaps a two seater later on, and hopefully also an M later as a separate module. I also seem to have a vague recollection with some CEs having the ability to use one missile, but others not, with one or the other being bought from another country and originally being another variant with slightly different capabilities. Don't quote me on any of these though, probably half a decade old info on me old brain-box :) If it'll only be one variants, I personally would hope it to be the more multirole or better ground pounding one, which I think was the EE.

As much as I love F-4 and still very much mad at ED for it, I honestly would much prefer Deka to stick to the red side of things. We need way more of those, and they are the most obvious developer to do it.

I'm very much hoping for more analog, and also sick of screens and glasses at this point. But I'd be happy with modernized analog with a few screens too. Q-5 is what prefer between the two, but J-8II & J-8III would be ok too. Given choice however, I'd really prefer a late J-7. Anyway, they may not even have decided yet, it's not like they're done with JF-17, as far as I know both visual and code developers still are actively working on it, let's not rush them ;). One thing is sure though, from what I've seen in their work with the Jefferson Airplane, I'm definitely looking forward to more modules from Deka! Especially more "not so blue" ones! As for the H-6, I think they are going to introduce it as an AI asset?

Even though I've posted and voted on the thread linked somewhere above, I still honestly don't expect those to make any difference. I don't see FC3 airframes becoming full fdelity anytime soon. And to be fair, they do have their place in being the gateway drug to get people into DCS.

How's this even a question? Especially since we have half a million blue jets already, and a full fidelity F-15E will be coming anyway to complement FC3 F-15C. Su-27 is the obvious choice. Real dream would be a Su-30 of some description, but well we all know it's not happening.

Spitfire and F-16 are the only aircraft modules I don't have. For F-16, I'm in the same boat as Mizzy, so didn't even try. Spitfire, loved it, and will buy it. Also tried WW2 assets and Persian Gulf, but I don't think I'll get them. This free for all month was an excellent move from ED though, so kudos to them for that.

Meh, as a lifelong 109 lover, G6 is the only 109 version I don't like at all. Hardpass for me... Do anything else, and I'm game, E-3,E-4,E-7,F-2,F-4,G-2,G-10, I'd be happy with any of these.

When it works right, this is one of the loveliest modules in DCS, and a favorite of mine. But then there are times where things get broken like now. I don't know what to say for a flight model to have changed pretty radically like 6-7 times or so, even so many years after it's been out. Especially as the lead developer was an active duty MiG-21Bis pilot when the module was released, I believe he's flying a MiG-29 now but not sure, he may still be active with the 21. As for the cockpit though, well un-updated cocpit still looks lovely in my opinion, so I wouldn't count that one as an issue, it will arrive eventually anyway. I'd still say get it not that it is %50 off, and that you can try it for free for a couple weeks more at least to see for yourself if you deem it worth giving the chance.

Even as someone who likes Axis birds a bit, I still take major issue with this suggestion. The reason I pay for DCS products is polar opposite of what is suggested here. For that kind of experience, there are other titles to choose.

Only look at the oldest ED modules if you want something really complete. Like A-10C, Ka-50 etc. Though they are both soon getting upgraded versions as a new module of sorts, the current versions we have are as complete as you'll get anything in DCS. F-18 isn't pretty dang close, but it is somewhat enjoyable. MiG-21 had of the more disastrous patches that seem to plague it every once in a while, with it's flight model having siginificantly changed again (bugs me to no end how that happens to a 6 years old module that is coded by a then active duty MiG-21Bis pilot), lost all force feedback features for FFB users like me, has her radar causing big lag spikes etc. What I consider fully complete are: - A-10C - Ka-50 - FC3 - L-39 - P-51D - Bf-109K4 - Fw-190D9 - MiG-15Bis - F-86F In my opinion a rough list of "almost fully complete, and enjoyable as such" modules would include: - Viggen - Despite being very new, JF-17 is pretty close with some bugs to iron out - UH-1 (almost fully and totally complete, but engine heat damage stuff isn't fully there as far as I recall, also it's getting multicrew support) - Mi-8, apart from not having multicrew we can call this complete - I-16 - C-101 - F-14 has some radar features getting added, and it will have F-14A added soon, along with AI assets, but apart from those she's at a very good place, and is probably one of the most enjoyable modules right now - F-5E - MiG-21Bis when it isn't broken... - Spitfire IX - Fw-190A8 The rest, except F-16 which I don't have and refuse to buy, are all still enjoyable if one could accept them for what they are with a few shortcomings, not everything needs to be perfect after all.

I have been flying it a little these days, and along with roll behavior, lots of things feel odd, and quite different from how it was back when the module was released. I do wonder the same too: if that is really how CEII flies. Feels like an "on rails" FBW jet right now.

Well if someone makes a Ching kuo, I wouldn't say no :P

Just installed Spitfire and WWII assets through free trial for this month, and having the same issue, they don't show up anymore, and aren't accessible, any ideas/solutions?

Viggen is very cool and unique, but Su-25T is a full on CAS, loiter, have half a million weapons kind of aircraft, and Viggen is a planned strike, one pass-haul ass kinda aircraft. So it may not be the replacement you want, especially as it doesn't have SEAD missiles (though, arguably, Mjölnirs can work for SEAD to some degree). Requirement for SEAD leaves Viper, Hornet and Harrier as the options. Though Harrier's SEAD capability is mostly up to self defense degree. Viper is a do-it-all aircraft, but at this point it is missing too much of those do-it-all features to buy in my view. When it comes to the ability of carriyng lots of weapons and doing slow, down and dirty kind of CAS too, A-10C is the answer, but you won't have SEAD, and it is so slow you may get surprised at that. If you think Su-25 is slow, A-10 can be a bad surprise especially when heavily loaded. I think Hornet is probably the best fit for you, even though it doesn't carry as much as some others, it can still lug around a decent bit, is fast enough, and can do all kinds of ground attack missions, as well as some air to air thrown in for good measure. Though, Harrier may also be worth considering.