Sandman1330

I’m not on a high horse. I’m saying you get what you pay for. I can’t afford a i9 9900K and 2080ti, and I accept that my frame rates will be lower as a result. I can’t afford a Ferrari, so I accept that my 0-60 time will be slower. I bought a stick for half the price of the competition, I accept that it will not be perfect. I don’t want to see Logitech pull out of this market again, leaving us with only the expensive options to choose from. Competition is good. And my assumptions are correct. You want twist, all those buttons and options that you can’t get elsewhere, and bullet proof quality, guess what? At this price point you can’t have it all. First world problems.

Happened to me again today. I had previously dropped 2xMK82 and fired several rockets. Only happens once in a blue moon... latest open beta.

If you aren’t happy with it then return it and go pay twice as much for something else. It has cheap parts because it’s a cheap stick. You get what you pay for, can’t have it all. You can buy two of these for the price of the next competitor, but what you get with the 56 is a pretty good value.

Have you tried only plugging one in at a time and trying to map it? Unplug the stick and try mapping the throttle?

Guys, don’t barrage LOGIRich with complaints on stuff he probably doesn’t even have the ability to fix. Besides, through 2 X55s and an X56, I’ve had no issues with throttle stiffness. Back off the resistance wheel and secure it down (I use Velcro tape), and it works great. Out of all 3 I’ve had, never needed to even crack it open (except to fix wiring on the 55). My only complaint is the sloppy centering that seems to have started with the X56, but you get what you pay for to a degree. Even more expensive ones have issues too. My question for Rich is whether Logitech has considered marketing an extension for the X55/56, as the design would be very simple given the coupling system that they use. This would help mitigate the centering issues for me and help it compete with the warthog.

What - is that a typo, or are they actually redoing the X65?? If the button layouts are the same, this may be the solution to my centering problem... the force sensing is very precise. I could use my X56 for helo flying and the 65 for jets...

In VR, this would be a recipe for motion sickness! But if you’ve got the stomach for it...

I use the software, no major issues. I use it to turn the stick thumb axis into key presses so I can use it for weapon select on the hornet and cms on the A10 My major issue with the new one is it has a lot more slop in the center, necessitating a large deadzone. Also, I wish they’d build an extension for it. Would be very easy with the threaded couplings! I tried to build one myself using the couplings from a dead X55, but the wiring didn’t cooperate.

We’ve been asking! https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=162243&highlight=Save+load

Same. It doesn’t require a ship to land transition, sometimes happens from a start on terra firma

Bought mine on Amazon.ca

I know you know this stuff, but I try and make my posts informative for the lurkers who maybe don’t know and are afraid to ask. I hope you don’t read that as me patronizing you! :thumbup: That’s funny about the force trim, I literally have a numb spot on my right thumb from constantly holding down that button! OT, but you must be super pumped for the BO105 to come to DCS World! The closest I have is the Huey, but it’s not the same as having something you flew in real life to play with!

Do we know if this has been acknowledged? Just played the Red Flag Hornet mission by Wags. Awesome mission! But it made this bug painfully evident. Every time anyone else was tracked (mostly by airborne targets), my RWR would start singing away, but I was never actually targeted by enemy air (the F15Cs were cleaning house in that arena). As I mentioned in my OP, this isn't realistic. Only the aircraft being tracked should be getting spiked, and it really hurts situational awareness in a busy mission like this one.

It’s not the spring itself, but rather the gimbal that holds the spring. The manufacturing tolerances are too loose. It’s unfortunate, because my old X55 was very tight and had no slop. I love everything else about my new X56 though. 2 steps forward, one step back...

Yeah, you are referring to a force trim system. Magnetic brakes hold the cyclic (and pedals) in position unless the force trim release button on the cyclic is depressed. Larger helos have it, but smaller ones don’t. B206 and EC120 don’t have it, you need to hold the cyclic with your knees on the ground when you need both hands for something (start checks usually). I have never in my career used friction except when on the ground (to save my knees lol). Hovering with friction on is not easy. The DCS Huey is modelled with force trim. The B412 I fly has it too. It’s great on the ground and in cruise flight but a real pain in the hover! My thumb gets sore from holding the button down in long hovers. Often we just turn the system off, but we are “encouraged” not to do that. Of note, the way DCS models force trim is not correct (unless you have a force feedback joystick). DCS allows you to center the stick when you reset the force trim, even if the cyclic is significantly displaced from center (as in forward flight). In the actual aircraft, it holds the cyclic in that position rather than centering it. There is a DCS setting that will use FFB to simulate this. I guess this is one area where your custom control setup would help!

Yes, that’s what I meant :)

Haha, if you’re trying to troll and fire me up, you’ll need to do better than that :megalol:

And what’s wrong with that? There are some excellent story driven campaigns out there, but redoing the first 30-45 minutes of a mission each time you get shot down in the climax of the mission gets very mind numbing the third or fourth time around. This is a piece of entertainment software, after all. (I dare say game, for fear of the “its a sim!” reaction, but unless you are a real world A10 or 18 driver using it to keep your currency and skill, it’s a game)

Everyone is correct, there are no dynamic forces in helicopter controls, with one major exception: light turbine helicopters like the Jetranger and EC120 (I use those as examples because I’ve flown them) when the hydraulics are failed / turned off. Movement of one control will cause bumping and resistance in the other. Larger helicopters like the B412 are completely uncontrollable without hydraulics, and most smaller ones don’t have hydraulics at all, so the light turbine class is where you see this the most. All that being said, this small use case probably isn’t enough to build a whole control setup around!

Oh, you are not alone! https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=162243&highlight=Save

I did contact them directly, and friendly. The experience was positive, even if it wasn’t my desired outcome. I’ve actually reached out to them again, pointing out this thread and others with people having this covered outside of warranty. I’m waiting to hear back.

Huh. My right earphone failed about a month ago, it’s the earphone itself not the ribbon cable, confirmed by swapping sides. I’ve had it for 2 years on the nose, and Oculus support said I’m on my own to purchase new phones. I didn’t make a fuss knowing that it’s out of warranty, but while I’m happy for those who have had this covered 2+ years post purchase, I’m disappointed in the double standard...

I feel the same way, there’s another thread on this topic: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220980&highlight=Mk20

I had the same problem. It’s tough to stay under 10K and still roll in with enough time to drop before the break x cue!

I’ve been able to do it. Those things have killed me enough times in the A10 and Huey, I love getting my payback against Tunguskas! Note that it shows up as S6 on the RWR.