Andrew8604

Assuming these pictures are sneak-peeks from in-game DCS of the HB F-4E in development, is there an "issue" illustrated in these two pictures? The low drag bombs fall and retain the aircraft's speed pretty well...low drag. However, the high drag bombs seem to be either extremely high drag or not falling under force of 1 G. Also, are these low-drag fins opening too soon after being kicked off the MER racks? Isn't there a near-one-second delay before the retard-fins deploy? Or is that "issue" with the DCS bombs and beyond the control of Heatblur? Or maybe the delivery speed of the aircraft is too high? Or am I wrong and there is no issue? I do appreciate seeing the pictures, though! It's going to be cool!

Bridges At Toko-Ri time! Where's our Skyraider and Corsair? And we need an HO3S-1 helicopter. CSAR missions.

I don't know if we'd ever get an F-101B Voodoo interceptor. It might be cool, but I don't know much about its capabilities. To stray off (recce) topic a bit: A set of ADC interceptors in DCS would be fun in specialized missions to intercept bombers...F-86D Sabre-Dog, CF-100 Canuck, F-101B Voodoo, F-102A Delta Dagger, F-106A Delta Dart, F4D-1 (F-6A) Skyray. But the RF-101C Voodoo could be the "supersonic" recce bird in DCS. Or the RA-5C Vigilante would be even more cool. But those are all new airframes in DCS. Lots of development. Would I buy them? Hell, yeah! The RF-4B or C would have a lot in common with the F-4E and might be easier/faster to produce...and probably highest speed of them all. Supposedly, the F-8J Crusader is going to be developed one day (or is in development)? Maybe they can also do the RF-8G? Then how to employ aerial photo-reconnaissance in missions and campaigns in DCS. When you snap recce photos in quick succession, you should get sets of stereo pairs...high resolution 3D-images for those of us with VR goggles! That might make it easier to find enemy assets on the DCS battlefields.

I would take an F-105D-31-RE to no F-105 at all! The F-105G would be the next most important and only other import variant, in my opinion, anyway. But I don't know when or if the 'G' could be made if technology in it is still classified...it would be a significantly different aircraft from the 'D', I think. The F-4 Phantom is a much more significant aircraft, I think, having been produced for both the USAF and USN/USMC to over 5,000 aircraft, right? I would hope Heatblur would also produce an F-4C and D, as well as the F-4B and J. Or at least either a C and J or a D and B. So, a total of at least 3 variants of the Phantom II. I hope. But for the -105, I think we'll be lucky to get just the 'D' at the "systems" detail level of the F-16C. Hopefully, they won't just make a 'G' and skip the 'D', though. Here's a link to a video some of you may not have seen called "Thud Pilots". Enjoy! I include it here in hopes that it might generate more enthusiasm for an F-105 in DCS.

Are you talking about the police car flashing red and blue lights? It might be the graphics card. Maybe it needs a driver update. I think Trackir just controls the direction of your view. I wouldn't think it would cause black streaks to appear on your DCS view on your screen. If it interfered with your head tracking, that might be something with Trackir. Just what I think, anyway. I use Oculus Rift S VR. I used to use Trackir 5 a few years ago. Switched to VR and never went back. I love the near perfect 1-to-1 head tracking and amazing 3D view of VR.

I like the end part of the video, too. Like how that rotor flies off. What happens if you land on the train and then it enters a tunnel? Driving those cars on roads in southern Caucasus map is fun, too! I used a Thrustmaster steering wheel! And I set up a spaced-out series of about 20 cars and trucks. Makes it somewhat like realistic civilian traffic on a mountain highway, even at night.

I think this is a good idea. Also, the option to lead 1, 2 or 3 other AI ground troops, somewhat like a flight of 4 aircraft. And a commands menu (or key mapped) to command your AI soldiers into different formations and set fire control (ROE). Also, to be able to equip yourself and those AI soldiers in ME with: Main weapon: rifle, squad automatic weapon (BAR, M60, M249, RPK, etc.), pistol, RPG, etc; quantity of ammo and grenades; up to some maximum weight. Ability to board an APC or utility vehicle (like a Jeep), and a helicopter, of course. Ability to sit in one of two passenger spots at the door on the UH-1H or other helicopters, (your AI units will occupy other seating spots on the helo as well) and be able to fire your main weapon from the helicopter...such as hand firing your M60 to help out the door gunner, or if there is no door gunner. AI soldiers should be smart enough to duck to the ground if under fire but not so skilled as to be able to down a Huey from 500 yards with an AK-47 or -74...as they can pretty much do now. I think it would be a lot of fun in MP...if it can be done. 4 MP players could pretty effectively command a small 16-man platoon, deployed on two Hueys, for example. ...AI Hueys or MP player piloted Hueys. The lead squad could have a two-way radio and comms with other MP aircraft or ground units, and able to call in AI artillery fire or airstrikes or airlift. Or they could be deployed in 4 Willy's Jeeps. Which is another thing...make the Willy's Jeeps a little more detailed with working gauges and an optional tunable radio transceiver in the back and whip antenna, and optional 30-cal or 50-cal on a post-mount...and a low gear that can climb modest grades! Right now, you have to turn around and back up the "ramps" to cross some bridges. LOL Right now, it seems that AI soldiers and AAA open-mount gunners cannot be "suppressed" with high volumes of small arms fire, machine gun fire, artillery fire or close air support fire. They won't duck and stay down for a moment. It's not going to be perfect. The ground is not that detailed (unless the ground could be highly detailed in the local area of a foot soldier). It likely can't be done with more than a couple platoons at a time. Maybe just enough to go find a downed pilot and get him to an LZ and get everyone out? But it would still be pretty cool, I think.

Where did you get the tow tractor, tow bar, and start cart?

Darn! Well thanks, anyway! Thanks for what you have provided!

Oh! Cool! But I couldn't do it. ME kept setting speed back to zero. Maybe I need to upgrade. I'm still using a version of 2.7 from about August of '22. Maybe that's it? Or do I need to just set a path and it will drift. Maybe there's no need to set speed? I like the idea of the swimmer, too. Do we have any helicopters with a rescue hoist?

On the vehicles that have speedometers and other gauges (eventually all of them, I hope)...like the SUV...is there any chance you could make those things work? Speedometer, tachometer, temperature, fuel level? That would be so cool! Also, the indicator lights...low oil pressure, low fuel, high coolant temperature, etc. And can you make the dash lights to light up the gauges at night? A dome light, too? Can you let us vary the brightness of the headlights, and have a high and low beam switch? Any chance of getting the rear-view mirrors to work? How about defining fuel quantity on the vehicles and fuel consumption and gas stations where we can refuel? I know I am asking a lot. How about a radio that can play mp3 files or some sort of audio file, or one of a set of 6 or so files to simulate different stations? And set those audio files to a frequency and transmitter location so that the signal and static interference strength changes with our vehicle's distance from the station? I have found it fun to drive the road from Batumi, eastward through the mountains. I place 15 to 25 AI vehicles of yours going the opposite direction, spaced out from each other various distances and sometimes in groups of 2 or 3, all set to "on road". It makes for realistic traffic on a rural road. I turn off "civilian traffic" in DCS's settings, because those vehicles are low-res and cannot collide. I like your police cars with the lights flashing! The summit of the road is about 6100 feet above sea level. I set cloud bases to about 6500' or so and it can get a little foggy up there. (I'm still in version 2.7...getting ready to try 2.8) I know this is DCS, a combat simulator, but I'm having a blast just driving the highway through the mountains!! Your vehicles are awesome! Thank you! I have most of the aircraft modules, so I'm not freeloading on this simulator. But this could be a whole separate game, with more effort into making the roads proper and including some mountain "truck trails". There's lots of room on just the Caucasus map for that. With better vehicle physics simulation, this could be a great driving simulator, especially in VR. Also, how about a hi-fidelity Willys Jeep? Take the one from WWII Assets Pack and add working gauges, knobs, headlight, taillights and brake lights. And modify its engine power and gears, include a two-speed transfer case...so it can actually make it up hills. Add an optional SCR-284 radio box mounted in the rear seat area of the Jeep that can be tuned like those in aircraft. Add ability to lower the top and the windshield. And a place to stow an M1 rifle. Also, an optional center post mount for a 30-cal or 50-cal machine gun. And add multicrew with 4 positions: driver, front passenger and two rear passengers, one of which can operate the gun, if mounted. Add a Jeep trailer, a towed 37mm gun and a towed 105mm howitzer. And of course, do similarly with other "scout" vehicles. (I should put this one in a wish list somewhere, I guess.)

The Life Raft has 0 speed...no propulsion, I guess. Now, you'd certainly expect that. However, it cannot drift in the wind, and there's no ocean currents in DCS. And it's not tethered like buoys. So, if you could give it a max speed of 2 knots, we could set it to 1 or 2 knots and give it a course to simulate its drifting with the wind (or ocean current, if you wish). I'm not sure how much difference that will make, but in one hour it would be 1 to 2 nm from where it was placed. Also, can someone create a script to place it randomly in a specified area (map point and radius?) and then (optionally) hide it from the map view? Then we can fly out in whatever we wish to try to find it. Would any surface search radars be able to see it. If it was randomly placed in a 25nm radius zone, would 1 to 2 kts drift make any difference to the effort to find it? Not sure, but it seems a neat idea to have it drift. In most cases it would eventually drift ashore...except for the Marianas map!

It did help. Thank you! That and a posted picture of the "TRIGGERS" page in DCS by cfrag on another thread, "Questions about loading scripts..." It works now! That's pretty cool. Any possibility of adding to it a way to play sound files of the dialog? Some good voice-actor sound files would really make this realistic, I think. Also, I discovered for myself that in order for a vehicle without a radio to have comms, you apparently have to set a frequency for it...and possibly the callsign, too. I just set both...and on the artillery groups, too. I haven't yet figured out how to add the "beep" sound file. I'd like to replace that, anyway, with a radio static burst, like at the end of a transmission. "ch-shhh-t". Once I figure out how to get it to work, it should be easy to swap a different .wav file in there. In that frequency setting in DCS, there's an entry for watts, which defaults to 10w. I would figure a small vehicle might only have 5w transmitter. A walkie-talkie maybe just 1w. Mobile CB radios are supposed to be no more than 4w. Trying it out with just the text comms, 5w of power seemed to have no problem at all up to at least 7 miles. Maybe there's no limit with text of the message. I can only talk to one artillery group at a time? You think there's a way you could expand your script to allow comms dialogs with up to 3 to 5 fire support sources? And is it normal for the artillery to take about 2 minutes to commence firing after they receive the coordinates and number of rounds? And especially after an adjust location. I would think that would take only about 15 seconds to adjust fire 100m and then resume firing. Instead, I'm seeing the same 2 minutes. I did move my ammo supply assets over 500 feet away. But how far away do they have to be? And what units are ammo suppliers? Trucks? FARP Ammo Depot? Helipad? I suppose that takes another script to move trucks into reloading range (whatever that is) when the artillery units are out of ammo?

It didn't work for me. But this is the first script I've ever tried, and I undoubtedly did something wrong or am missing something ...like knowledge. Can you direct me to a tutorial on the basics of using scripts? Is MOOSE really easy to use? Can it already do something like this? Any others? I read something about rescue of downed pilots feature. Is that where a random generated downed pilot is placed to where you can fly out and rescue with a Huey? Or a helo will come out and get you if you are the downed pilot? I wish there were helicopters with a rescue winch ...such as the old Sikorsky HO3S-1, or Sea Sprite or Sea King. Back to artillery: I was thinking of a scenario where I have set up fire bases in the mission and I want to be in a Willys Jeep or such and be able to observe enemy forces and call for artillery from 1 or more separate fire bases. It would make things easy (maybe too easy to be realistic) to be able to point a laser at the enemy and get range and bearing info to add to my coordinates and automatically generate the coordinates of the "target" and send them to the fire bases' artillery groups, with your commands like, "adjust fire" and "fire for effect". Just not have to select the somewhat repetitive choices of coordinates. But I could evaluate that further once getting this to work. It might be fine just as it is.

Alright, here's the long answer. It's not an easy question. And I think some history is needed to go along with it. I hope I'm not telling what you already know, but then for others, perhaps. And others correct me as needed. One guy can't know it all. I would say Carriers, Cruisers and Destroyers are held-over names of types of ships from WWI and WWII. Some WWII destroyers served in the US Navy into the 1970's, with modifications/updates. The roles of each type of ship seemed to evolve over the decades. In WWII, cruisers...in my studying (I wasn't a naval officer)...had long range and high speed (30+ knots), whereas battleships were slow (18-23 knots). They would range out and patrol long distances...scouting. All these ships used guns and torpedoes (no missiles or radar back then). The US Navy, after WWI only deployed torpedoes on destroyers. They could patrol long distances with minimal escort (a small group of heavy cruisers or a light cruiser together with a heavy cruiser, maybe). It was reckoned a cruiser could out-gun and out-range any destroyers it might encounter and out-run battleships, which would, of course, out-gun them. A heavy cruiser had 8" main-battery guns and thicker armor. A light cruiser had 6" main-battery guns and lighter armor, but maybe a faster rate of fire. 12 to 15 six-inch guns could throw more shells against a target in a given time than the 9 or 10 eight-inch guns of a heavy cruiser. Destroyers generally weren't large enough to carry the fuel needed for long range...they needed to refuel frequently from tankers and large carriers. A heavy cruiser generally could out-gun a light cruiser and be on equal terms with another heavy cruiser...except for one thing...treaties. In 1922, the Washington Naval Treaty was signed by five major naval powers remaining from WWI...US, UK, France, Italy and Japan. It limited number and tonnage of types of ships, I believe. The US and UK abided by the treaty, Japan, after a while, did not. That's why Imperial Japan's heavy cruisers were superior to those of the US and UK...until about 1943...when, no longer adhering to the failed treaty, the US produced the largest, most powerful fleet of ships the world had ever seen, by a large margin. By the end of WWII, for example, the US had 17 operational large aircraft carriers with 10 more nearly completed, 8 light carriers and 59 escort carriers (slower light carriers) ...and thousands of naval aircraft...and a proportionate number of battleships, cruisers, destroyers and submarines. Destroyers were mostly escorts of larger ships or transports against other destroyers and submarines. There were destroyer escorts (of about 23 knots) to deal with submarines (which were only about 16 knots on the surface and maybe 7-10 knots submerged), and regular fleet destroyers of around 35 knots. Aircraft carrier battlegroups were generally capable of 30-33 knots at the start of WWII. So, destroyer escorts generally didn't serve in carrier battle groups. Their job was escorting slow amphibious battle groups, the "old" slow battleships (some of which were from WWI) and tankers and cargo ships. By 1944, the US Navy's primary power was in carrier battlegroups that included fast battleships, heavy and light cruisers and destroyers as escorts. Destroyers had to deal with submarines (and had sonar and radar), other destroyers and aircraft raids. They shipped 5" dual-purpose guns that could be used against anything on the surface or shore and anti-aircraft, 40mm and 20mm AA guns. The light cruisers were equipped with 6" guns to deal with destroyers and 5", 40mm and 20mm guns for anti-aircraft. The heavy cruisers had 8" main battery to deal with destroyers and other cruisers and 5", 40mm and 20mm guns for anti-aircraft. The battleships had 16" main battery to deal with other battleships and cruisers and a large number of 5", 40mm and 20mm anti-aircraft guns...they were especially powerful anti-aircraft platforms. Altogether, these ships provided a tremendous anti-aircraft "umbrella" over themselves and the carriers...the June 1944 Battle of the Philippine Sea as the prime example. But they weren't perfect. All these ships' larger guns were used mostly for shore bombardment by 1945, as Japan's air force and navy was nearly wiped out. Submarines generally went out on solitary patrol, considering every surface ship and other submarines as a threat, regardless of friend or foe. They avoided detection by anyone if at all possible. Because surface ships and aircraft could not afford the time to determine if a submarine was friendly or hostile. They attacked all of them, immediately on contact. And a submarine's primary role was to sink ships. But submarines also worked with these battlegroups (including downed pilot rescue) and sometimes with each other in "wolf packs". In that Battle of the Philipine Sea, several submarines did about as much damage to the Japanese Navy as hundreds of aircraft could do. Submarines, today, might hunt submarines, especially the ballistic-missile ones, but they still have a role (mostly unused) to sink ships, too. The UK's nuclear powered attack submarine that sank Argentina's (ex-US Navy WWII light cruiser, Phoenix) Gen. Belgrano in 1982, for instance. It was a 600-foot-long ship! Unfortunately for it, its anti-submarine escorts were not up to the task. Modern fleet: In the 1960's, surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles were developed and improved in the 1980's and onward. In the 1950's jet aircraft appeared on the scene and were too fast for anti-aircraft guns...as you can see and experience in DCS. So, nearly all the guns were removed, save a couple 5" guns for anti-ship and small crafts and minimal shore bombardment. If you have WWII Asset Pack in DCS and man the guns of the Samuel Chase (attack transport) or the LST and try to defend against attacking WWII aircraft, I think you'll find it very difficult to shoot down many planes...the AI is usually a better gunner. AI has near perfect aim, all the time...and even then, it can't get them all. Then defend against attacking jets using guns. You need so much lead in firing, that you have to guess where the aircraft will be and hope it flies on to meet your shellfire. However, one big limitation in the DCS implementation of anti-aircraft guns is the lack of proximity fused shells, Mk51 directors with lead-computing sights for the 40mm and Mk37 radar-directing fire control of the 5" guns. On the 40mm guns, you'd normally do the aiming from a nearby Mk51 director mount, which could remotely direct 1, 2, 3 or all of a ship's 40mm mounts at one target, if desired. They had a switching panel below decks to connect up various 40mm mounts with appropriate directors. I hope they will implement this in DCS in the near future. Destroyers became guided missile destroyers, with a few 5" guns and one or more SAM launchers. They also had bow-mounted sonar and sometimes towed-array sonar. Submarines being so deadly to ships, they employed nuclear-warhead-equipped torpedoes, rocket-propelled, that could get a torpedo out to the vicinity of a submarine before it could get into firing range (I guess)...and like with horseshoes and hand grenades, it only had to be close. That was the SubRoc...anti-submarine rocket. Destroyer Escorts became Frigates and guided-missile frigates in the 1960's or 70's. They became guided missile armed and SubRoc armed and carried a 3" gun. While destroyers (and cruisers and carriers) stayed up around 33 knots, Frigates were only 24 to 27 knots. Light and Heavy Cruisers essentially were replaced in the 1960's and 70's by large, guided-missile destroyers, that were called cruisers just because they were of similar size to WWII cruisers and as a way to differentiate them from smaller destroyers and smaller-yet frigates...some of them were even nuclear powered. Battleships just went away. The Iowa's were brought back a couple times, but only for shore bombardment duty by their 16" guns. The aircraft carriers became supercarriers, as you probably know. The escort and light carriers vanished by the late 1950's. But a new type of small carrier has arisen, the Amphibious Assault ship; now capable of carrying Harriers and F-35's. So, in DCS: There's not a lot of ships and not a lot that go with each other. It's nice to get some other ships from here. One Arleigh Burke destroyer is, in theory, suppose to defend one supercarrier...makes a "battlegroup". In practice, I think they use a couple more, maybe an Aegis cruiser. As I've mentioned, in WWII, there might have been a fast battleship, 4 cruisers (2 heavy, 2 light or 1 heavy, 3 light) and maybe 9 destroyers in a defensive ring to defend 2 large carriers and a light carrier, for instance...a carrier battlegroup. In the Battle of the Philippine Sea, it was something like 5 carrier battlegroups and 1 battleship battlegroup operating together against a smaller, but still large couple of Japanese battlegroups...in the largest naval battle in history, I believe. The enemy ships never saw each other. It would likely have been a battleship slugfest, if they had. Optically directed 18" guns against radar directed 16" guns. I'd have bet on the radar directed. In Korea, I think they essentially did the same as in WWII, but without the battleships in escort much. In Vietnam, it might have been a guided-missile cruiser, 2 guided-missile destroyers and 4 conventional or ASW destroyers to defend an Essex-class carrier and a Forestal supercarrier...a battlegroup. I think frigates, being slower, still hang out with amphibious groups...not sure, though. You can mix and match as you wish, though, in DCS. The US Navy mixed and matched what they had as best they knew how. Sometimes, as history shows, it wasn't the best. And sometimes it was mistakes...Taffy 3 and the battle off Samar.

Or just a 300 NM x 300 NM (550km x 550km) map covering most of North Korea, as it was in about 1951. Except for the cities, most of the terrain, today, is probably about 98% as it was in 1951. I think of the 1955 movie, Bridges at Toko-Ri. It features: straight-deck Essex-class carriers (I believe Magnitude 3 is making a WWII Essex-class carrier. That will do, nicely.), an LST used to land a helicopter on (DCS has one that could be modified slightly to land helicopters.) The Douglas AD-4 Skyraider. Crosstail Studios will be making an A-1H (AD-6) for us. That should work just fine, painted in dark sea blue. The Grumman F9F-5 Panther Navy jet fighter-bomber. Someone needs to make this. Simple systems, no radar. I don't think it even had the gun-ranging radar that the F-86F has. The Sikorsky HO3S-1 Dragonfly helicopter (Sikorsky S-51 and Westland S-51) with rescue winch off the side, no armament. Someone needs to make this. It's powered by a 450hp, R-985 Wasp Junior radial engine. Magnitude 3 is finishing up the F4U-1D Corsair. Although not featured in the movie, the F4U would fit in fine (the F4U-4 was used in Korea, but maybe Magnitude 3 can provide us with one of those shortly after the F4U-1D.) The Corsair is featured prominently in the 2022 movie, "Devotion", also based on a story in the Korean war. and Cleveland-class cruiser and Gearing- and Sumner-class destroyers. Of course, a whole lot more scenarios can be created on such a map, using our many other aircraft.

Oh, Bremspropeller, you shouldn't have posted that article. Now I want that "D". I know it would be a year, at least, after the "E"...if, IF they decided to do the "D" at all. It just seems like once they do all that work for the A-7E, they are just that close to the "D" and have all that A-7 knowledge fresh in mind. It's not like starting a whole new aircraft, it can't be. The differences may be significant, I don't know, but release it as a separate module. So, if they are like $69 each, have a $30 discount on the "D" (when/if it comes out) if you already own the "E"...or both for $108. This is one aircraft where both versions were significant. The F-4 Phantom II is another. But HB says they will do at least a couple versions of the F-4, eventually.

If the A-7D & E are so close to the same, it should be easy to release both, or the "D" closely following the "E". Looks like there are difference in instrument panel arrangement, and of course the in-flight-refueling receptacles. I'd like a version of the A-7B, with the TF30-P-8 engine and a pair of MK-12 20mm cannons (like the A-4 Skyhawks had). But I don't figure that will happen, so I'll be contented with the "E" model.

I agree. It's just silly the way they try to land. I just tried to keep it simple, though. I also haven't upgraded to 2.8, (I'm afraid it will kill my framerate in VR with Rift S and I don't know how to revert) so I don't know what if any improvements there are in 2.8 to the AI. I'd also like ME or F10 to be able to designate the active landing and departing runways for AI and ATC. And for ATC to be able to give vectors to an initial approach point. From there, weather would determine if the overhead approach is available. Otherwise, it would be some sort of instrument approach (TACAN or ILS) or PAR (Precision Approach Radar, GCA - Ground Controlled Approach...which is not simulated but could be).

Can you program AI aircraft to do the overhead break at airports? At least on the Nevada Map. From last waypoint before "Landing", they should make a 450-knots (or as set in ME) dive to cross the approach-end of the runway at about 2000 feet AGL, then break left (or right, as specified in ME) about mid-field, 70-deg-bank turn into a downwind for that runway, slowing to pattern speed and configuring for landing. And then at or just past the 180, just a continuous turn to a 3/4-to-1-mile final and land...with a realistic after-landing roll-out, not "super-braking". Flights could delay each wingman's break by about 3 seconds or so, in sequence. I think this will get aircraft down and landing much more quickly and realistically.

Request to add more Ground Support equipment to the list of static objects that can be placed to make the ramp look more active and realistic. I see that there are US Navy equipment units and deck crew for use on carriers or shore bases. Can we have a set for US Air Force Bases, both vintage and more modern. For example: Start Carts: MA-1 (1950's & 60's), MD-3 and more modern A/M32-60 from the 70's & 80's Tow Tractors: Harlan and Clarktor tow tractors and MD-1 Universal Aircraft Tow Bar Munitions Loading: MJ-1 Bomb Loader, MHU-83 Bomb Loader, MHU-12 Munitions Trailer Refueling Trucks: R9, R11 and similar refueling trucks, not just the M978 HEMTT Ground Personnel: USAF ground crew, similar to USN carrier deck crew in animation.

Same here, in US. Carrier planes operate from carriers. That makes them a big step up in coolness. But if they go on to release a module for the F-4C and F-4D, I'll buy that, too! But I'm not sure that all the differences of the F-4K will be worth the effort to fly off the Ark Royal. The MiG-21 was never operated by the US (never mind any adversary squadrons), but I bought that module. I think it flies pretty decently (last version of 2.7, at least)...in single player, anyway. I bought the MiG-19 and MiG-15, too. And I might get around to getting the Mirage F1. But I'm sort of a module slut. I go around with all of 'em...even the I-16. LOL I often fly my A-4E in RAN paint, gull gray over white with the red and white checker tail, off of the Clemenceau (closest thing to an Essex-class). I just like its retro looks. LOL

I think it would be a pretty good deal if they could release twin-packs, like you say, "early/late". If money is important to them for continued products: Navy F-4B with the F-4N as a module. Then the F-4J with the F-4S as a module. Then the F-4C with the F-4D as a module. After that...? F-4K? RF-4B or RF-4C? And with that, the F-4 should be done...4, 5 or 6 separate modules out of it at $69/module, without an all-up start-out of a new aircraft...just modifications. Take full advantage of McNamara's "Commonality" concept! ...and during the same time (a few years) working on the A-6A / A-6E / KA-6D, I hope! I think the F-4E, at least, is going to be hugely popular/successful. Seeing it in the "2023 and Beyond" video, I had to wear a bib...I was drooling like a St. Bernard looking at a plate of prime rib. I even barked a couple times. I myself, will purchase every F-4 module they put out! And even the F4U Corsair, F4F Wildcat, F4D Skyray and Boeing F4B 'biplane'. The Phantom II being the F4H before McNamara changed it all...which is probably why he changed it, LOL. The F4 can't lose!

How would it work to make the below waterline hull a very dark gray with slight red rust color, or very dark red? The bright red shows through the water too much. Or a gradient from hull red at the waterline black stripe, darkening rapidly to very dark red, almost murky gray toward the keel? Just a thought. No demands.

I do use the Forrestal. It's great! But it has so much acreage! My A-4E gets lost. LOL Hopefully, Supercarrier's features can be added to the Forrestal (or vise versa) and a few other carriers...like the LSO crew and Catapult crew. I'd like to see many more features for Supercarrier...or a new module I would call Carrier Battle Group. But I'm thinking of posting that in the DCS Supercarrier Wishlist. Like, after landing, where's the guy that runs out (sometimes with a bar) to ensure the arrestor cable gets free of the hook, and the one that directs you off the landing area and into the parking area (or to the next director/handler)? In the same way as it's amazing how many features are packed into the little A-4, it's cool how so many jets (even the big A-3B Skywarrior) could operate off that little Essex-class ship. They go together: A-4 with F-8, A-3, A-1, E-1 and H-2...and later the A-7.