Mig-21 more than worth the while.

I thought I'd make this post for LN as it seems they have run into some unforeseen problems with the Mig-21 and DCS 1.5.

I don't really think they need support because I know they have a lot of fans and support for their work. I decided to post this anyhow, because some times they do get some stick.

I bought the Mig-21 some time back and at that time had a lot of modules that I hadn't become all that familiar with. it was fair to say I had not given the Mig the time it deserved. What limited time I did spend on her though was an eye opener. She is quite an unusual aeroplane to fly when comparing to the flying capabilities and behaviour of say the F-15 or the Su-27 maybe even the sabre. I didn't give up on the mig, but I decided to go back to it when I had the time because I knew it was an aeroplane that needed some time and concentration. However recently I decided to learn the Mig-21 I learnt how to start her up then navigation then a-a and the radar and I'm up to a-g and in my opinion the most enjoyable part of the Mig-21. I find the mig is a cracking plane for ground attack and have actually had quite a lot of success attacking ground targets against some heavily defended areas escaping without a scratch. The rockets are particularly satisfying although i would advise releasing the entire load and make just a single attack.

The point of this post is I knew LN were perfectionists before I really got into this module so I had no doubt about its quality, but if anybody is unsure about buying this module my advise is don't hesitate. Particularly now it's running so beautifully in 1.5 with good FPS. I know LN has some problems to fix but this does not detract from your enjoyment of this wonderfully detailed sim. And as I'm learning to fly her im finding her a nice feeling aeroplane to fly as well as long as you don't get to slow. So thanks LN for your work on the Mig-21 its a brilliant piece of work. And I'm really looking forward to your future work particularly the iconic Tomcat.

I could'nt agree more Westr! It is an amazing module where LN has really showed us their capabilitites. The plane is quite demanding, but that makes it the more satisfying!

To those who don't know it, here are a few examples:

-Speed too high or negative G's for a few seconds? Engine flameout. Air restart of engine will be needed.

-Pulling too many G's (4G+) with ordenance? Weapons/fuel tanks auto-eject from pylons.

-Touchdown a bit too rough? (Critical) damage to the undercarriage.

-Radar on for too long (20 minutes or so)? No more alcohol (yes, alcohol) to keep the radar running.

-Forgot to bring the gear lever back to neutral during a long flight? Loss of air pressure that is used among others by the wheelbrakes :D

-Air combat? Don't forget to flick the right buttons, select the missile type (IR/SAR) and select the exact pylons where these missiles are on, or no joy.

But if you get things right, it really gives you an immense sense of accomplishment! I can definitely recommend it!

EDIT: If the Mig-21 is a benchmark for things to come from LN, the F-14 is going to be epic! :pilotfly:

Had this in my hanger for a couple of months now with no time to learn it yet. Thanks for the overview, I'm getting excited about it again!

LN are doing outstanding job on MIG-21, I will for sure get their future products. Keep up the good work and plz make some more Soviet aircraft ;)

Thank you all!

that's why we are desperately waiting f-14 from this dev

I agree with the OP. Bought two copies (one steam and one non-steam). It's so satisfying to bring down a 4 Gen fighter in the -21

that's why we are desperately waiting f-14 from this dev

and the announcement of the other two aircrafts ;)

For me, the Mig-21 holds the top spot on my list of DCS favourites! It is simply brilliant, a joy to fly. To be able to enjoy this absolute classic in such detail, who could have imagined this.

Loving the plane :)

I could'nt agree more Westr! It is an amazing module where LN has really showed us their capabilitites. The plane is quite demanding, but that makes it the more satisfying!

 

To those who don't know it, here are a few examples:

 

-Speed too high or negative G's for a few seconds? Engine flameout. Air restart of engine will be needed.

-Pulling too many G's (4G+) with ordenance? Weapons/fuel tanks auto-eject from pylons.

-Touchdown a bit too rough? (Critical) damage to the undercarriage.

-Radar on for too long (20 minutes or so)? No more alcohol (yes, alcohol) to keep the radar running.

-Forgot to bring the gear lever back to neutral during a long flight? Loss of air pressure that is used among others by the wheelbrakes :D

-Air combat? Don't forget to flick the right buttons, select the missile type (IR/SAR) and select the exact pylons where these missiles are on, or no joy.

 

But if you get things right, it really gives you an immense sense of accomplishment! I can definitely recommend it!

 

EDIT: If the Mig-21 is a benchmark for things to come from LN, the F-14 is going to be epic! :pilotfly:

I could not described it better! :D LN truly set the bar with the Mig!

 

If the Mig-21 is a benchmark for things to come from LN, the F-14 is going to be epic! :pilotfly:

Yep! I am a big fan of the Mig-21. The F-14 should be utterly incredible. :thumbup: MJ

Bought it out of curiosity because it was an ASM vintage fighter, ended up being my favorite module. You must be doing something right! :thumbup:

Agree with everyone. Very well done. Love the 21. Great job on this module all the way around.

You have raised the bar.

I could not described it better! :D LN truly set the bar with the Mig!

Not until its systems and FM are finished. The visual part looks perfect though.

I have to agree with this thread. It's the best DCS module so far.

When it was announced that they're developing a MiG-21 I was like "Meh, what an odd aircraft to make. I don't think I'm gonna buy it". But when it got released as a beta and recieved so many good opinions, I changed my mind and bought it to give it a try ... and boy it is my favorite module now. The Fishbed really grew on me and I think it is a realy nice aircraft now. The work LN had to put in this to achieve this kind of quality is amazing. I also really appreciate the continious support and improvement of the MiG-21!

That's why I'm desperately waiting for the Tomcat (and the Viggen?) :D

So, thank you LNS for your outstanding work! :thumbup:

D@mn, that MiG-21 is fine! I used the english cockpit, but now I learned all of the switches, I use the Russian cockpit again for a more authentic experience! It is the best module so far!

Last night, I did a manual start-up. After I climbed to about 8km of altitude, I began to have some kind of 'double vision' The kind of images you see on television when they want to show you how being 'drunk' feels like. Probably some Hypoxia simulation? I did forget to set the three-way switch for cabin (or possibly helmet) ventilation. It is the switch on the left panel, near the canopy closing handles. The double vision dissapeared after I decended to about 3 or 4 km. Awesome detail!

Cobra847, Hi, update Dev in october?

Regards,

Héctor

It's a great module. As a "realist" the one thing I'd like to see would be integrating with ED's navigation/beacon system, instead of the special hard-coded version.

That being said, for period-accurate navigation, we'd need a way to specific which beacons "were" present say 30 years ago, instead of what's there now.

For me, MiG-21bis is the best accomplished module in DCS by far. Congrats to LNS for setting a great standar...i'm looking forward to more soviet aircraft from you and also waiting for the F-14 like a little child waits for Santa.

S!

Just last week I was doing some approaches and intercepts with MiG, with a friend (former MiG-21MF pilot) sitting next to me instructing me on proper use of some systems. To be able to do that, in a desktop sim, is simply awesome.

One thing my friend mentioned the sim lacks is artificial control resistance (maybe could be done through FFB?). In his words, it was very poorly implemented in the real plane, and could kill you if not tuned properly (introducing PIOs, over-Gs, etc.).

I'm in the same boat as the OP. I bought it when it first was released and shelved it. Not because of lack of interest, just have been too busy. However I have recently started digging into this aircraft via the training missions and I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Excellent job Leatherneck! My only critique/request would be voice overs for the missions.

Im in the same boat as well, and recently have been getting back into it.

It's satisfying and a great challenge; it is a quite capable tool that requires a skilled pilot to really maximize the jet's potential.

Ive found myself watching any/all youtube mig-21 videos i can find (real flight videos)

Just last week I was doing some approaches and intercepts with MiG, with a friend (former MiG-21MF pilot) sitting next to me instructing me on proper use of some systems. To be able to do that, in a desktop sim, is simply awesome.

 

One thing my friend mentioned the sim lacks is artificial control resistance (maybe could be done through FFB?). In his words, it was very poorly implemented in the real plane, and could kill you if not tuned properly (introducing PIOs, over-Gs, etc.).

How can you put artificial control resistance in when literally no one is manufacturing a FFB joystick anymore...