Silver_Dragon Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 VEAO Grob Tutor project can be a good starter aircraft to train. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Kuky Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I fly it all as in real life you have to start on props to get to a jet. Good point... I can add that it applies to ED learning the ropes of modeling/coding and getting info on more modern stuff also, which is harder to come by then prop aircraft :) PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Random Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Jet jockeys: look at it like this. The simpler to produce warbirds will pay the bills for the developers. Without whom there is zero chance of any modern fast jets. Mirrors reality in a way! Without early flight we'd not have modern flight.
winz Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Well, they are the only survivor of the sim market collapse some 10+ years ago. And not only did they survive, they also pushed the boundries of simulation fidelity and their platform is growing. So I don't think they are doing anything wrong... The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
intx Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I will state that I don't care for WWII planes (A10 is my first love) but I only see positive things out oft this development. DCS needs the influx of new players. With that influx and popularity gain, this could get more third party developers to join the gig or allow ED to increase staff and budgets.
leafer Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Yeah, I never understand why my wife go through the trouble with getting out that massive mortar, plucking those herbs and spices to make 4-5 different kinds of curry paste either. I mean, they don't taste the same. One taste better with fish and another with pork. Most are good for soupy curry while a few are best stir fried with prawns and stink beans. :D Can you white people tell me why you have so many kinds of bread when one will do? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
ED Team NineLine Posted July 10, 2014 ED Team Posted July 10, 2014 The F/A-18 C from ED is coming... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Kuky Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 The F/A-18 C from ED is coming... and when it does it'll come like a thunder :joystick: PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
leafer Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 The F/A-18 C from ED is coming... Oh? And who authorized this info? :D ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
ED Team NineLine Posted July 10, 2014 ED Team Posted July 10, 2014 Oh? And who authorized this info? :D I think they announced it already didnt they? :P They can take their time though... once its out, I will be useless for a few months digging into all her goodness... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Aginor Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 and when it does it'll come like a thunder :joystick: I hope not like a Jet Thunder though... :D DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
outlawal2 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 So instead of releasing planes from WWII, how about you give people what they really want. Jet aircraft ? F/A-18, F-15E, F-16!?, F-14 maybe. Hell, even the F-22 or let me fly a E-3 AWACS or KC-135 for some supporting role fun ( look i know plane names :thumbup: ) I mean, and I would assume people play DCS because of its roots in jet fighters and bombers. If people want prop aircraft from back in the day, here is the link to War Thunder... http://warthunder.com/ I just don't understand why its being left to other company's to make the aircraft. Most of them cant give a release date, or get some much shit they want to do they can stay on task. I mean its nice to have a aircraft that is like the A-10C where I have full control. Can Eagle Dynamics not produce the F-15E or F/A-18 at the level of detail? wtf is going on, over? :cry: Ummm... Clearly you haven't looked at the 2 WW2 threads with like 10,000 posts in them... (Slight exageration but you get the idea.) There is huge interest in the WW2 era... Don't ever mistake your opinion as being everyone's opinion... MANY people want WW2 era planes and scenarios and ED has stated repeatedly that DCS is NOT era or airframe type-specific... "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
Kuky Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 3Sqn RAAF Hornets pKNjiu4j9TM PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
leafer Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I think they announced it already didnt they? :P They can take their time though... once its out, I will be useless for a few months digging into all her goodness... Like getting people's hopes up don't cha? :D Seriously, I'm bewildered you have so little rep for all the headache you get around here. :thumbup: ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
ED Team NineLine Posted July 10, 2014 ED Team Posted July 10, 2014 Like getting people's hopes up don't cha? :D Seriously, I'm bewildered you have so little rep for all the headache you get around here. :thumbup: Well I said it was coming, didnt say when. :) Although my guess is some where near not soon enough :) As for the rep thing? Meh... I am just happy to be here ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Isegrim Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Flying only one and the same type of Aircraft. Is like having only one and the same type of Woman during life. For sure everybody has his preferences. ;) "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
Python Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 So instead of releasing planes from WWII, how about you give people what they really want. Are you speaking for all of us now then? I love the P-51d and I very much look forward to more of the same. It was an internal test that they decided to release to us anyway so in no way detracted from the development of the fast jets. DCS: World should include a wide variety of different types imo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vedexent Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 OP: Your preferences are not universal preferences. DCS doesn't cater to only your preferences. That doesn't mean they're "doing [it] wrong". That's life. Deal.
agrasyuk Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 While I don't think ED is doing anything wrong (they develop what they can and what will sell to earn a living) all this amount of WWII birds does not really excite me. Not that I'm totally not interested but seems more of the same to me. After all they all are similarly shaped single props. So this one has somewhat diffeently aspirated engine, oh and this one has a clever altitude sensitive device to dose fuel, oooh and that one goes slightly faster when above x,000 feet. C'mon guys, I fail to see that much of a difference to warrant that deep level of work investment, you can't say that spitfire and mustang are not near same dang thing. Sigh... Waiting for those fast movers. Some day... Maybe. Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
cichlidfan Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Though I do think there are a number of things ED is doing wrong, the planes being produced is not an issue to me. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ff4life4 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) While I don't think ED is doing anything wrong (they develop what they can and what will sell to earn a living) all this amount of WWII birds does not really excite me. Not that I'm totally not interested but seems more of the same to me. After all they all are similarly shaped single props. So this one has somewhat diffeently aspirated engine, oh and this one has a clever altitude sensitive device to dose fuel, oooh and that one goes slightly faster when above x,000 feet. C'mon guys, I fail to see that much of a difference to warrant that deep level of work investment, you can't say that spitfire and mustang are not near same dang thing. Sigh... Waiting for those fast movers. Some day... Maybe. In that regards whats all the difference between mondern fighters. All have afterburners, radar, and shoot missiles... I kid, but I do see your point. I am very interested in their different handling and engine management and armament and stuff Edited July 10, 2014 by ff4life4
rcjonessnp175 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Ww2 aircraft is cool and all but I would prefer a central focus on one era. This non organized shot gun blast of multiple eras leaves every module weak and with the sense of non completion. If they had a bigger company heck ya lets do modern and ww2 ans whatever is in between. I just fear this constant shuffle of priorities will leave us waiting even longer for edge and the epic ness that will bring. Love this sim! Theirs just so much we want and that's a good thing, goes to show how much we appreciate their work and quality. But let's focus on the 5 meter tgt before we engage the 1400m Rich I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
WindWpn Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) One thing that is going to get weird here is the idea of the environment. The world for which you will fly WWII planes vs modern aircraft in DCS. Basically, ED will need to develop an entire world set in 1944 including cities, towns, buildings, roads, vehicles, life... that match the time period. The ground has to match the period aircraft, otherwise the simulation will simply miss an entire aspect of the experience and fall flat. Couple that we the modern aircraft world, and its simply a conflict of time period. Beyond the aircraft, developing the worlds for where those aircraft fly realistically is going to be a daunting task for ED. I simply do not see it happening.... and believe its best to stick with one time period and build a flight simulated world around that period. ED/DCS World is modern...not 1944. Edited July 10, 2014 by WindWeapon The Rig: i5 7700k OC 4.6ghz, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1080ti, Windows 10 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ff4life4 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Well I believe with DCS WW2 they are trying to take on that goal. With all of the WW2 planes being developed and the Normandy map, I can see it being very complete and realistic. I think it will be a lot of fun. Especially using the AI b-17s. Attacking or defending them with the proper planes will be a blast. They other "world' is probably the modern day stuff, which is complemented fairly decently with the A10, FC3, and what not. Even some of the other companies like VEAO, making the Typhoon and A4 Skyhawk will fit in very nicely. What really will be the "oddball" is the Sabre and unfortunately Mig-21.... Wihile mig-21 is still in modern day use, the aircraft is almost useless against more modern fighters. Sabre would need Korean theatre, Mig need possibly vietnam. These could occur with time as Edge is release, however I really am most interested in WW2 and the modern stuff
ff4life4 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 One thing that is going to get weird here is the idea of the environment. The world for which you will fly WWII planes vs modern aircraft in DCS. Basically, ED will need to develop an entire world set in 1944 including cities, towns, buildings, roads, vehicles, etc... that match the time period. The ground has to match the period aircraft, otherwise the simulation will simply miss an entire aspect of the experience and fall flat. Couple that we the modern aircraft world, and its simply a conflict of time period. Beyond the aircraft, developing the worlds for where those aircraft fly realistically is going to be a daunting task for ED. I simply do not see it happening.... and believe its best to stick with one time period and build a flight simulated world around that period. ED/DCS World is modern...not 1944. I disagree with DCS as MODERN. It says that no where. Also they can pull this WW2 thing off. They are building time period maps and what not. There are seperate teams dealing with the different areas im sure, as they aquicred much of RRG
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