Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 This update just wrecked my DCS totally. My wingman is experiencing some wierd stuff as well. Me before: 60-120 fps average Me now: 10 and laggy as hell. Totally unplayable. Wingman: Ka-50 crashes his game Without mods - instant action - quick missions. All tested. My system: Win8 64x i7-4770K 2x8GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator platinum 1866mhz cl9 RAM GTX 690 (Multi-GPU off for DCS although it made no difference this time. It cant get worse I suppose) Win+DCS runs on SSD Something in this update has seriously messed my DCS up. Halp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Post logs and tracks. Also: you did try to run a DCS Repair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Okay, hope you dont mind me asking - but I dont see what a 10 second track will do, and a log when there is no errors besides 10 fps? Its not just poor performance. Its no performance at all. Yes, repair did nothing at all. Edited February 27, 2015 by <Grizzly> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 27, 2015 ED Team Share Posted February 27, 2015 Okay, hope you dont mind me asking - but I really dont see what a 10 second track will do, and a log when there is no errors besides 10 fps? Its not just poor performance. Its no performance at all. Yes, repair did nothing at all. Try renaming your DCS folder in saved games (you can always change the name back if that doesnt work), understand this will remove all your settings and options, but its worth a try before the next option which might be a re-install. Also have you tried multiple modules? Do you have an issue with all or just one? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Try renaming your DCS folder in saved games (you can always change the name back if that doesnt work), understand this will remove all your settings and options, but its worth a try before the next option which might be a re-install. Also have you tried multiple modules? Do you have an issue with all or just one? Thanks, I'll try that. No, its all modules, even F15. It feels like render issues with clutter/details because I just tried starting a plane in-flight and It's almost like a switch turning off when going above around 4000ft. Then it runs "okay", but nothing like before. Somewhere right below 4000ft It "switches" back to I can allmost count the frame-frame-frames.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Okay, hope you dont mind me asking - but I dont see what a 10 second track will do, and a log when there is no errors besides 10 fps? Its not just poor performance. Its no performance at all. Yes, repair did nothing at all. I can answer that only after I found something odd in the logs (for example continously repeated error messages, for whatever reason, that might eat up performance). If there is nothing in the logs, then we wasted 2-3 postnings in this thread *shrug*. Imo it is always better to have more information than less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 I can answer that only after I found something odd in the logs (for example continously repeated error messages, for whatever reason, that might eat up performance). If there is nothing in the logs, then we wasted 2-3 postnings in this thread *shrug*. Imo it is always better to have more information than less. Heh, you got a point. We just wasted the posting.. There is nothing exessive repeated in the logs, they look rather nice actually. :smilewink: SiThSpAwN! I actually believe the new saved games folder did it. :D Wonder what has been in there it didnt like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Really strange, because on my machine, v1.2.15 seems to run better than any previous version so far. As to why that is, however - or why your performance is in the toilet - I've no clue. PS. I realize this post is not really helpful in any way, but still wanted to say this for a comparison. Fetching my coat now... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 27, 2015 ED Team Share Posted February 27, 2015 Heh, you got a point. We just wasted the posting.. There is nothing exessive repeated in the logs, they look rather nice actually. :smilewink: SiThSpAwN! I actually believe the new saved games folder did it. :D Wonder what has been in there it didnt like. Do you have any mods or anything like that? Perhaps something just went corrupt, the installer doesnt touch that folder, anyways I am glad I could help, let me know if anything else goes south :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 What mods do you have? Only asking cos that might of done something..... maybe..... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwolf Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Well, you can still put back your former folder part by part and check when it start to mess. did it help for your Ka50 buddy ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Same here.. DCS totally wrecked!!!! Update 1.2.15 is faulty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunMcKill Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I had the same with the OpenBeta two days ago, just repaired the OpenBeta, and copied all the <User>\Config\Input from the Official to the Beta, no more crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 I have mods, all JSGME. But I tried with and without. It made no difference. We just played an hour, testing a bit. Results are, its playable now. But - when landing in MiG-21 which is a bit heavy in the cockpit, Im down to 15fps. Which is far worse than usually, and it makes it... No fun... That shouldnt be the issue with my system which isnt exactly low end. But I dunno. Around 25-30 in a dogfight with Sabre and my buddys MiG-15. Much worse than usual, but enjoyable. And no, my buddy's game still crashes when loading KA-50. Every single other module works for him, I'll take a look at his logfiles later, its sleepytime here. I did read someone had the same issue with the A-10C? So, my conclusion right now is the new savegame folder did remove whatever caused the critical stuff, but it feels like there's still something naggin'. Might try to remove every DCS thing on my drive and reinstall it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 28, 2015 ED Team Share Posted February 28, 2015 Same here.. DCS totally wrecked!!!! Update 1.2.15 is faulty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmm, just updated my release version, works perfectly.... not so faulty. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryback Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hmm, just updated my release version, works perfectly.... not so faulty. Same here SiThSpAwN..It works perfectly.No crashes, no fps drops.I can say the performance is even better than 1.2.14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I can say the performance is even better than 1.2.14. I know I'm repeating myself, but yes, the performance has literally NEVER been better than it is now for me. Kudos for a job brilliantly done ED :) I'm just wondering whether it's parts of the new rendering engine already finding their way in there, or what exactly. Because judging from past performance, merely tweaking things only gets you so far! Hmmm... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Lion_ Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Same problem with the new update. KA50 doesn't work :( :helpsmilie: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 132virtualwing.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Yeah, it's nice that some of you have a jolly time with this update, but there is other threads on the forum for that kind of joy. ;) The fact is, every system is different. Comparison is not always 1:1. Nice to see im far from the only one having issues. Sad, but at least im not alone about it. I hope its not going back to the old days where every DCS update was a risk of ruining your game. Hope they find something bad in their patch, fast -for us that do have issues with this update. I'm just wondering whether it's parts of the new rendering engine already finding their way in there, or what exactly. Well I did find this in my logs: 00015.751 ERROR DXGUI_EDGE_RENDER: Cannot load texture '' 00061.417 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_infrared.lua 00061.417 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_land.lua 00061.417 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_landheight.lua 00061.418 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_lights.lua 00061.418 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_map.lua 00061.419 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_mfd.lua 00061.419 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/land3.1.lua 00061.420 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS3: lma: .///Bazar/Graphics/lma/edge_shelf.lua Buuuut, that can by anything. Edited February 28, 2015 by <Grizzly> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Buuuut, that can by anything. These seem to be log entries from the current render responsible for drawing edges around objects. So it has nothing at all to do with EDGE the engine I'm sure ;) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quax456 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Has someone of you guys dropped a CBU97 since the last update? Make shure nobody is in an airial refueling. Shure, it looks great bit has a damn impact on FPS........ My Rig: Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-13700k@5.4GHz, 64GB DDR5 5200 RAM, Gigabyte Z790 AORUS Elite AX, 1TB Samsung EVO 970, RTX4080, Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG + Saitek Pro Flight Pedals, LG 32" 4K 60FPS, ACER 30" 4K 60FPS GSync Display, HP Reverb G2 V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly1606688174 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Back again after reinstalling DCS completely. I believe that has done it, it back again with full power and performance as it should be :) A shame I didnt find what made it act like it did, but at least now it works for me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief1942 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Ain't technology grand?:smilewink: Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I don't think I have performance loss in v1.2.15 especially, but I can say that I lose performance in time - gradually after every update, I guess... Even in Su-27 I was getting good FPS like 30~50. Now, over Sochi if I see 20 I'll be happy. And if we count new modules complexity, it goes worse. I can't get over 17 FPS with C-101EB... I'll wait for DCS2. If I will not able to see a good performance, upgrading my system will be only choice for me I think... Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bn880 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I have a performance loss of about 6-10% in 1.2.15 vs 1.2.14. I just did a controlled test by downgrading DCS then upgrading back up on a test track of a Ka50 taking off. I log sample FPS at different time intervals (by hand) and compare. losing 3-6FPS everywhere. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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