Valve/HTC Vive Discussion

[Windypants]

Using MSI Afterburner software allows you to put various system numbers on screen.

[Milopapa]

I think it's just a matter of non-VR devs not having yet built the direct experience of optimising for VR - along with the challenges of transitioning a render pipeline designed for regular rendering to VR. It'll come eventually.

 

I think the main problem is an ancient engine which is a patchwork of enhancement over the course of a more or less a decade.

It has trouble using the latest hardware even in 2D.

[DBO]

Couple of interesting new snips.

 

Valve is letting third-party peripherals use HTC Vive's tracker (updated)

 

and really interesting; and could apply directly to DCS World....

 

Intel scientist teases depth-sensing 'horn' for HTC Vive

 

That's really cool news. It's only going to get more and more amazing isn't it. Next few years are going to be really exiting ... and painful for my wallet I fear.

[Koriel]

I've seen some unboxing video's of OSVR's HDK 2.. Any DCS experiences yet?

[Scorch]

Would like to try the Vive in DCS, but can't seem to get it going. What settings in the sim, if any must I change manually beyond the use VR headset checkbox in the settings?

 

Should I change the resolution from 1 monitor at 1920x1080? If so, to what?

 

Thanks!

[Loz]

That resolution setting has no affect on what you see in the HMD.

Ensure you have "Auto detect Oculus Rift" box ticked in Options then close and restart DCS, with your Vive powered up. I don't have to start SteamVR, it auto starts.

[Kirin]

Sorry, but Reprojection just don't cut it with me. You were flying straight and level most of the time. The ghosting gets really bad when rolling and looking over your wing. I just cannot unsee it. Try your setup in a more busy mission or dare go online - things will fall apart.

 

Until DCS gets a vast improvement in the department of VR optimization I am grounded.

 

Running a i7-6700k@4.7, GTX1080, 16GB RAM.

 

 

Yeah I'm silly enough to have done it. I bought the Titan X Pascal. I'll be the first to admit it is total OVERKILL for DCS World. BUT, I wanted to be able to play with super sampling at or above 2.0. AND it delivers although with my graphics settings I'm at a steady 45 FPS reprojection.

Totally makes every single gauge, MFD, HUD, switch text readable. I had the previous Titan X and was able to get good results at 1.3 to 1.5 depending on aircraft. I'll try to post more videos and updates as I tweak and play with the the new card. Let the POKING FUN COMMENTS COMMENCE! LOL

 

 

 

 

Specs

CPU I-7 4790K OC 4.5ghz

RAM 32 GB

Samsung 850 EVO 1tb

GPU TITAN X PASCAL

[Windypants]

Yeah ghosting is a matter of fact in busy online servers. But I'm fortunate enough that it doesn't bother me at all. It's great to get into a knife fight with your buddy online and shift and swivel in your chair to keep them in sight. I've built my missions to have few ground units or only spawn at specific trigger points to reduce any FPS drops. It's always a compromise with this first Gen VR but I can't fly without it now. I flew over 3 hours last night on the Vive without any ill effects. With time and patience you can dial in your rig for a worth while experience.

[Windypants]

HTC VIVE DCS World UH-1 in headset video

 

Took a quick video of my HTC VIVE using my iPhone over the right eye piece. Flying over Kobuleti area with 2.0 pixel density. Solid 45 FPS reprojection with my tweaked DCS graphic settings.

[williehayesjr]

Considering the Vive

 

For me, this is a huge investment. Not only do I have to buy the Vive, but I must also up grade my computer or get a new one with higher specks. Before I invest, I would like to try DCS on the Vive. Is there ANYONE in the Denver Metro Area that has a Vive setup and is willing to let me try it, I would greatly appreciate it?

[hansangb]

For me, this is a huge investment. Not only do I have to buy the Vive, but I must also up grade my computer or get a new one with higher specks. Before I invest, I would like to try DCS on the Vive. Is there ANYONE in the Denver Metro Area that has a Vive setup and is willing to let me try it, I would greatly appreciate it?

 

Are you interested in other games, or is VR in DCS the primary objective? I ask because as of *now* Rift support is much better in DCS than Vive. I'm sure that will change over time, but I'm not sure what timeline you're working with.

[Milopapa]

Yeah I'm silly enough to have done it. I bought the Titan X Pascal. I'll be the first to admit it is total OVERKILL for DCS World. BUT, I wanted to be able to play with super sampling at or above 2.0. AND it delivers although with my graphics settings I'm at a steady 45 FPS reprojection.

 

IDK, man - a lot of times you went down into the 30's with FPS, that's not exactly steady reprojection. And you were flying straight, doing nothing but looking at another F5. I can't imagine what this looks like over a city.

[AldoUSMC]

SteamVR Update

 

Gents with Vives,

 

There was a SteamVR update in the last 24 hours it appears. My SteamVr loads then crashes when trying to start DCS World 1.54 Open Beta (I have non-steam version). DCS World continues to load to the screen non-VR.

 

I found that the only way it stays stable and works is if I launch and have running run both Steam and Steam VR.. before I launch DCS World 1.54 OB (stand alone/non-steam)

 

I know, to date, I've been making sure Steam and Steam VR were not loaded when launching DCS World 1.54 OB based upon performance enhancement recommendations from others here... and that has been working.. until today.

 

Anybody else seeing this ? Asking so I can track back to see if it is specific to my system or others are experiencing also.

 

Semper Fi

AldoUSMC

[Nascar]

Gents with Vives,

 

There was a SteamVR update in the last 24 hours it appears. My SteamVr loads then crashes when trying to start DCS World 1.54 Open Beta (I have non-steam version). DCS World continues to load to the screen non-VR.

 

I found that the only way it stays stable and works is if I launch and have running run both Steam and Steam VR.. before I launch DCS World 1.54 OB (stand alone/non-steam)

 

I know, to date, I've been making sure Steam and Steam VR were not loaded when launching DCS World 1.54 OB based upon performance enhancement recommendations from others here... and that has been working.. until today.

 

Anybody else seeing this ? Asking so I can track back to see if it is specific to my system or others are experiencing also.

 

Semper Fi

AldoUSMC

 

Mine just started normally, like I didn't have the VR checked even though it is. I closed it and opened virtual desktop and that started steam. Then opening Dcs and it was in Vr.

[Kirin]

Windy - I really appreciate the effort you put into this. Could you take a similar footage while flying low and rolling while looking over your wing? I would really like to to see objects moving fast.

 

 

 

Took a quick video of my HTC VIVE using my iPhone over the right eye piece. Flying over Kobuleti area with 2.0 pixel density. Solid 45 FPS reprojection with my tweaked DCS graphic settings.

[Windypants]

Windy - I really appreciate the effort you put into this. Could you take a similar footage while flying low and rolling while looking over your wing? I would really like to to see objects moving fast.

No problem it's hard to record with a phone and you lose so much detail but here is another clip I recorded.

[Eihort]

Okay... so I upgraded to a single GTX 1070 from two 970s in SLI (which had issues because SLI)..... and now my performance is worse than ever with DCS. Constant hitching on relatively empty maps in (both latest updates) 1.5x and in 2.0x. The F-5 instant action in 2.0 on Nevada is nearly unplayable.

 

Outside of VR it's pretty smooth, but still some hitching. We get a bad patch? It's been a few weeks since I tried it when I realized the 970s weren't cutting it.

[hansangb]

You'll have to post your cpu/memory, hard disk type etc. All of it matters.

[Milopapa]

Windy - I really appreciate the effort you put into this. Could you take a similar footage while flying low and rolling while looking over your wing? I would really like to to see objects moving fast.

 

Sorry to ask but what's the point of this?

 

Recording a 90Hz low-persistence screen with a smartphone camera...? Will give you no idea how it looks in real life.

[Kirin]

I know what the Vive looks like in RL because I have one. I am very well aware of the limitation of that type of recording. I am looking for that awful ghosting I get with reprojection and that should be noticable on the phone camera too. As far as I can judge Windys footage he doesn't get the judders and ghosting as bad as I do - so I have to investigate my setup further because there must be something going wrong.

 

Sorry to ask but what's the point of this?

 

Recording a 90Hz low-persistence screen with a smartphone camera...? Will give you no idea how it looks in real life.

[M1Combat]

The ghosting happens based on what is seen through both eyes... Recording only one won't reproduce it.

[simo1000rr]

No problem it's hard to record with a phone and you lose so much detail but here is another clip I recorded.

 

I know that this might be too much to ask you but I would really appreciate it if you can make a similar video from your phone showing the F15 gauges such HSI and the radar screen. Im mainly getting the VR for the F15 and I just want to see how the gauges look .

Thank you very much in advance.

[Eihort]

You'll have to post your cpu/memory, hard disk type etc. All of it matters.

 

Here's my dxdiag. Everything was decent, the only thing that changed was adding the GTX 1070, and things got worse.

DxDiag.txt

[MikeMikeJuliet]

Has anyone got any clue when the pixel density is supposed to be patched to work with the Vive. I just tested last night and the pixel density does nothing...

 

I thought someone here mentioned they had it working... Am I missing something?

 

 

Thanks,

MikeMikeJuliet

[M1Combat]

Yeah there's a file you need to edit... Gimme a sec