Gierasimov Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Superb news but... SWINOUJSCIE, POLAND - March 3rd 2015 - F-14A/B (A+) Tomcat coming to DCS World Leatherneck Simulations, in association with The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics are immensely proud to announce the development of the F-14 for DCS World! The F-14 Tomcat is a fourth-generation, twin tail, supersonic naval interceptor aircraft, developed for the United States' Navy VFX programme. After it's debut flight in 1970, and subsequent fleet introduction in 1974, the F-14 became the primary fleet defense and air superiority fighter for the U.S. Navy. The legend of the F-14 only grew after the hollywood smash-hit "Top Gun" - in which it was heavily featured. Key Features of DCS: F-14A & B include: Highly Accurate 6-DOF (Degrees of Freedom) Cockpit Highly Accurate avionics and weapons system modelling - including the vaunted AWG-9 Radar system and AIM-54 Phoenix missiles. AIM-54 Phoenix Simulation with a CFD based AFM 'JESTER AI' - A Proprietary AI System for fully voiced, dependable and smart RIO/WSO Highly Accurate Flight Model - Based on Real Performance Data Both -A and -B Model F-14's Multiplayer Multicrew capability. Fly together as RIO and Pilot! Animated Crew Members - Closely Integrated with JESTER AI Highly Detailed External Model, Animations and Textures Highly Accurate Aircraft System and Subsystem Modelling One Free Theatre bundled with the Aircraft Full, lengthy single-player campaign Full Suite of Documentation, including game manual, quickstart guides, and more. Fully voiced and interactive training missions, teaching you to fly and fight. ...and much, much more! At Leatherneck Simulations we strongly believe in raising the bar. We have never been comfortable with adhering to the status quo. Currently we hope to complete development and enter BETA testing on the first version of the F-14 by the end of 2015. Subject to significant change. For the Development Team, the F-14 will represent the culmination of years of experience and dedication. Our passion is only rivaled by our ambition and we are pushing ourselves to be better than ever before. So strap in and enjoy the ride, and get ready to experience the definitive F-14 experience. Sincerely, Leatherneck Simulations NOTE: Due to an unexpected technical error in our website & subsequent down-time due to overloading the server, this is a limited, interim announcement. Looking at the scale of this project (what's been published on the Leatherneck's web site) I would expect this module around Q1 2017 at the earliest. It is very nice indeed, and I fully support this but just look at how long it takes to create a module with professional flight model and full avionics (F15 and Su27 are FC3 level only!) or Nevada TTR terrain - where even now that it is still to be released, ED already knows they will update it at a later stage - see video posted by Wags. So I guess my question is, how does it align to what is planned for DCS for the next two years? What is the progress of DCS: F/A-18C, Strait of Hormuz - surely it would be enough if there was high fidelity Carrier Operations in the above location to which Leatherneck could just "plug-in"rather than re-inventing the wheel and introducing "another" carrier ops and another map for DCS. From what I gathered on http://www.leatherneck-sim.com/f14/ developers at Leatherneck work together with partners (ED???) to ensure there is a common platform (Carrier Ops and deployment location) rather than introducing their own platform. I bought DCS: A-10C in 2010 and I was told there will be Nevada TTR with it back then. Now, it's been five years that I waited for Nevada TTR and hopefully I will see at least the first release this year. If we are to wait for Leatherneck's project in its current scale for few years, I would rather fly Tomcat at Nevada TTR. Edited September 25, 2015 by Gierasimov Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
Cobra847 Posted September 25, 2015 Author Posted September 25, 2015 Looking at the scale of this project (what's been published on the Leatherneck's web site) I would expect this module around Q1 2017 at the earliest. It is very nice indeed, and I fully support this but just look at how long it takes to create a module with professional flight model and full avionics (F15 and Su27 are FC3 level only!) or Nevada TTR terrain - where even now that it is still to be released, ED already knows they will update it at a later stage - see video posted by Wags. So I guess my question is, how does it align to what is planned for DCS for the next two years? What is the progress of DCS: F/A-18C, Strait of Hormuz - surely it would be enough if there was high fidelity Carrier Operations in the above location to which Leatherneck could just "plug-in"rather than re-inventing the wheel and introducing "another" carrier ops and another map for DCS. From what I gathered on http://www.leatherneck-sim.com/f14/ developers at Leatherneck work together with partners (ED???) to ensure there is a common platform (Carrier Ops and deployment location) rather than introducing their own platform. I bought DCS: A-10C in 2010 and I was told there will be Nevada TTR with it back then. Now, it's been five years that I waited for Nevada TTR and hopefully I will see at least the first release this year. If we are to wait for Leatherneck's project in its current scale for few years, I would rather fly Tomcat at Nevada TTR. We are not really entirely reliant on anyone else delivering content for us to release the Tomcat. We are however, very confident in our partners' abilities and progress in creating the appropriate framework. That said -- there is nothing stopping us from creating more ancillary content to the Tomcat if we wish (say.. a Carrier). It just isn't planned currently. The Tomcat has now been in development for ~1.5 years and is progressing well. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Gierasimov Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Thanks Nicolas, I appreciate your answer. By any means I was not suggesting that that you should not include any additional content, what I had in mind was that your F-14 and Jester AI is a huge project that surely will be bought by many without those additions. So, the whole development is focused on the jet and Jester AI without map or carrier at the present, right ? Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
domini99 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Just a question that I am not sure about yet: Are there plans for a targeting pod and guided bombs for the F14?
McBlemmen Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Just a question that I am not sure about yet: Are there plans for a targeting pod and guided bombs for the F14? GBU 12s probably since afaik every aircraft that can carry mk82's can also carry gbu 12's, but a targeting pod will definately not be possible. only f14d could carry a tgp
BlackLion213 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) GBU 12s probably since afaik every aircraft that can carry mk82's can also carry gbu 12's, but a targeting pod will definately not be possible. only f14d could carry a tgp Not true. None of the F-14s had LANTIRN at the start of their service life and the first Tomcats to receive LANTIRN were the F-14Bs (1995-96), followed by the F-14A and F-14D starting in 1997. All three models had the same capacity to guide LGBs and perform FAC(A) - in fact the unit chosen to perform shore-based FAC(A) during OIF was an F-14A squadron - VF-154. There were no formal software changes for integration of LANTIRN, so the display and capabilities were essentially identical across all three models. Here is a picture of NG-106 from VF-211's 1997 cruse carrying LANTIRN. I think that LANTIRN should be highly integrate-able with Leatherneck's F-14, the issue is probably documentation. One interesting quirck - LANTIRN deployment was actually not taught at the Tomcat Fleet Replacement Squadron (FRS). All RIOs learned how to use the pod once they reached their fleet squadron - there might not be much formal documentation of how to use the LANTIRN with the F-14's systems, though since this is the most recent part of the F-14's history - could the SMEs provide enough detail? Could this be one of the challenges? -Nick Edited September 26, 2015 by BlackLion213
Stratos Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 So the A's can carry the LANTIRN? Sounds cool as we will be able to use the TGP to find the enemies and then engage them even If using only dumb bombs. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Dudikoff Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 So the A's can carry the LANTIRN? Sounds cool as we will be able to use the TGP to find the enemies and then engage them even If using only dumb bombs. Not really - only modified A's, B's and D's, that is with dates mentioned in the previous post by BlacLion213. Leatherneck have stated that their F-14A will probably be from the mid-80's, while the F-14B might be an early to mid 90's configuration IIRC and they were still considering whether the LANTIRN will get added to that equipment fit. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Stratos Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Ah, rgr. Thanks for clarification. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
McBlemmen Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Not true. My point still stands , there's no way we'll get tgps.
Tirak Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 My point still stands , there's no way we'll get tgps. Um, no your point was factually false and so therefore crumbles. F-14Bs were modified in the mid 90s during the 'Bombcat' upgrade to be able to use the LANTIRN pod, so therefore it is a very real possibility that it will be part of the module. So aside from your incorrect information concerning which variants of the Tomcat could fit the LANTIRN pod, do you have any other reasons, or just pessimistic guesses?
Charly_Owl Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Some practice before the LNS Tomcat awakens! 1 Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
Frisco1522 Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Some practice before the LNS Tomcat awakens! :clap: Frisco1522
Top Jockey Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Hello everyone, this is my first post on eagle.ru forums. As a long time enthusiast of the F-14 Tomcat I'm following this development. Some doubt: Anyone know if things like the various AIM-9 Sidewinder target acquisition modes like: CAGE / SEAM, etc. will be featured ? Thank you. Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
sniperwolfpk5 Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 This will be the most realistic simulation of f-14. The feature will be there if a real f-14 have depends on the version of the F-14 Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language
O_Smiladon Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Hello everyone, this is my first post on eagle.ru forums. As a long time enthusiast of the F-14 Tomcat I'm following this development. Some doubt: Anyone know if things like the various AIM-9 Sidewinder target acquisition modes like: CAGE / SEAM, etc. will be featured ? Thank you. Welcome Top Jockey, To ED Forums :thumbup: O_Smiladon [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Top Jockey Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Welcome Top Jockey, To ED Forums :thumbup: O_Smiladon Thank you Smiladon. (I've read the rules and didn't found anything relate to new member presentation, so proceeded to the topic in question.) Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Top Jockey Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 This will be the most realistic simulation of f-14. The feature will be there if a real f-14 have depends on the version of the F-14 Hello sniperwolfpk5, Have you tried Aerosoft F-14X for FSX ? Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
sniperwolfpk5 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 No I haven't tried. But what I have read and watched in videos. It is a decent build by Aerosoft. It has a very good flight dynamics but not every system is modeled. A true fact about FSX is, it is mainly a civilian sim. A very good review of all the systems of Aerosoft's F-14 in the following youtube playlist . About LN. Look at the mig 21. It is considered the 2nd most complex aircraft in DCS after A-10c. The LN's F-14 will be superior from Aerosoft's one. That includes system modeling, flight dynamics and combat weaponry. You can further check their site here. I think it is not finalized. but they have given some information regarding weapons Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language
BlackLion213 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 Hello sniperwolfpk5, Have you tried Aerosoft F-14X for FSX ? Yes, it is excellent for a FSX/P3D aircraft. The flight model approaches those in DCS (by feel that is), but doesn't quite match it. But for the serious Tomcat fan, it's as good as it gets until the LNS Tomcat is released. I fully expect the LNS Tomcat to be a major step forward over the Aerosoft versions (based on my experience with the MiG-21), but the Aerosoft version is well done for an FSX add-on. -Nick
Top Jockey Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 Hello, the technical aspects and doubts continue on: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=151515 Thank you. Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Cool Breeze Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Will we get a TGP? Load outs are still up in the air at the moment. It all depends on the time frame of the A model they are building. I believe it was mentioned that the Tomcat received the LANTIRN pod in the mid 90s across all three models. There has been hinting the initial release will cover the mid to late 80s A. If that is the case then I would say no. LN is also slated to bring forth a B model Tomcat. So maybe with that release? LN have been very tight lipped about what is coming this year and early next year. "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
VincentLaw Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 There has been hinting the initial release will cover the mid to late 80s A. If that is the case then I would say no. LN is also slated to bring forth a B model Tomcat. So maybe with that release?I was under the impression that the A and B would be released simultaneously, or at least as part of a single package. Is there a post somewhere that suggests otherwise? Either way, I only really plan on flying the B, so I will skip the A if they are sold separately. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
King_Hrothgar Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 It's a single module that includes two aircraft and a map. But the initial release will stagger the components. So you will get the A first, then the B and then a map (this is only an example order, not the official one). But it's all still one module sold as a single package for $60 or whatever.
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