Mi-8MTV2 News

[TomCatMucDe]

Great updates but still eagerly awaiting multicrew which will revolutionise the Mi-8 in my opinion.

 

+1

[TomCatMucDe]

News No.26

 

Hide PKV gunsight.

 

It is removable PKV gunsight. The PKV gunsight is now removed together with the holders of еxternal weapon stations.

 

 

 

 

 

in my case, the external pylons are removed but not the gunsight... :/

[AlexandrT]

News No.26

 

Hide PKV gunsight.

 

It is removable PKV gunsight. The PKV gunsight is now removed together with the holders of еxternal weapon stations.

 

 

in my case, the external pylons are removed but not the gunsight... :/

 

In a future update will be. You need to wait.

[TomCatMucDe]

News No.26

 

Hide PKV gunsight.

 

It is removable PKV gunsight. The PKV gunsight is now removed together with the holders of еxternal weapon stations.

 

 

 

In a future update will be. You need to wait.

 

 

 

Ah ok. No big deal

[S-GERAT]

News No.26

 

Hide PKV gunsight.

 

It is removable PKV gunsight. The PKV gunsight is now removed together with the holders of еxternal weapon stations.

 

 

 

In a future update will be. You need to wait.

 

Hi AlexandrT

 

Do you have plans to remove also the IR Jammer with this option and to make it functional in the near future ?

 

The one on the Su-25T is working so shouldn't be very hard to implement it..

[AlexandrT]

 

Hi AlexandrT

 

Do you have plans to remove also the IR Jammer with this option and to make it functional in the near future ?

 

The one on the Su-25T is working so shouldn't be very hard to implement it..

 

In the near future it is not planned. Much more important modifications.:cry:

[TomCatMucDe]

 

 

 

In the near future it is not planned. Much more important modifications.:cry:

 

 

 

Oh yeah!!

 

What are they if we may ask! :)

[gospadin]

 

 

 

Oh yeah!!

 

What are they if we may ask! :)

 

Hopefully the Mi-24 body kit. :pilotfly:

[EagleFox]

 

In the near future it is not planned. Much more important modifications.:cry:

 

Can we get some infos about those planned modifications? Please, pretty please?

[sniperwolfpk5]

Yes plz. When I get email about Mi-8MTV2 News. It makes me smile.

[S-GERAT]

 

In the near future it is not planned. Much more important modifications.:cry:

 

Well.. if you promise that someday it will be.. I'll be happy :thumbup:

[ebabil]

do you plan to do something about the vinch on the left side?

Edited April 6, 2016 by ebabil

[PilotMi8]

do you plan to do something about the vinch on the left side?

not yet

[AlexandrT]

Yes plz. When I get email about Mi-8MTV2 News. It makes me smile.

 

Different freights of an external suspension bracket.

 

Imitation of salon, opening of doors of a cabin, raising of benches in salon.

 

Animation of elements of the plug of the bearing screw and step of the steering screw.

[AlexandrT]

News №30.

 

News №30.

 

For the purpose of bigger approach of perception of management Mi-8MTB2 of DCS to real, specialists of the company Belsimtek enter into game new control for joysticks - "JOYSTICK WITHOUT SPRINGS AND FFB".

 

 

That is trimming option for joysticks without springs and without feedback (FFB – Force Feedback)."

 

Features of use of joysticks of various designs.

 

As in the real helicopter the handle of a cyclic step of the helicopter, practically never is in strictly central situation and at the same time the mechanism of trim effect is actively used (fixing by springs of any situation CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM), the joystick with feedback (FFB) which also, as well as in real can fix the handle in any place of admissible range of movements, is ideal option for management of helicopter model. Position of the handle of the joystick with feedback (FFB) always corresponds to situation CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM in a virtual cabin. Almost exact imitation of work of CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM, as in the real helicopter is created. In the ordinary joystick the handle is kept by springs in the central situation, and the player needs or to overcome constantly efforts of springs, or to use function of the "EXPECTATION of RETURN TO the CENTER" control that does not allow to play comfortably on models of helicopters.

 

Because joysticks with FFB feedback, are rather rare on sale presently, and also are quite expensive, enthusiasts of the Mi-8MTB2 module with support Belsimtek conducted research on the basis of the COBRA M5 joystick

 

 

, for the purpose of a possibility of its completion regarding acquisition of the main property by it from FFB joysticks – possibilities of free movement and deduction without efforts of the handle of the game device on any mode of flight of model of the helicopter.,

Centering springs which keep the handle in the center were removed from the COBRA M5 joystick. And under axes of longitudinal and cross rocking chairs, washers, for the purpose of creation of loading effect for the joystick handle were enclosed (that there was no "falling" of the handle at a hand).

 

For a perception correctness the simulator of such modifed joystick and at the same time preservations of sound effect of trimming into game entered new control for joysticks with the withdrawn springs - "JOYSTICK WITHOUT SPRINGS AND FFB".

This function allows to synchronize when pressing the button of the trimmer position of the virtual handle with position of the handle of the joystick on various modes of flight.

 

Flights on DCS: Mi-8 MTB2, with use of the COBRA M5 joystick and remote springs, showed excellent imitation of work of CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM, full compliance of situation CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM in a virtual cabin and joystick handles. Running start of indexes of the autopilot decreased, management became more exact, unpleasant twitchings of the handle of management when using the "trimming with return to the center" mode due to the lack of need of return of the handle of the joystick to the central situation for removal of effort from joystick springs disappeared. In general flights became more smooth.

 

Testing was carried out by real pilots of MI-8 who confirmed high extent of approach of motility of movements with the handle of the COBRA M5 joystick with remote springs to work as real CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM.

 

It is natural that some time should be spent for accustoming to the new scheme of management, to wean from finding of the handle of management of the joystick in the center. But more real feelings received subsequently when flying on "eight", compensate everything!

 

At desire to feel how moves in flight of CYCLIC CONTROL SYSTEM of the real helicopter, to receive more exact skills of management of the eight, each user, using these recommendations, will be able to make simple alterations of the joystick.

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2410050&postcount=1

 

Cleaning of springs from pedals will add more real perception of control of helicopter.

The short explanation on alteration.pdf

Edited April 9, 2016 by AlexandrT

[Jerkzilla]

Thank for the guide!

I will try this soon, the springs on my M5 broke years ago anyway and I replaced them with rubber bands. I also don't like the way the stick acts near the center, you can feel the moment it stops pushing against one side of the spring and switches to the other.

[sniperwolfpk5]

Can you plz tell us about multi crew?

[Nooch]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2410050&postcount=1

 

Cleaning of springs from pedals will add more real perception of control of helicopter.

 

I tried it a while ago when I had my Saitek Pro Combat Rudder and the result was very disappointing. The pedals sure held in position but without the spring I didn't feel any resistance when moving it and it felt horribly unrealistic, awkward and difficult to use. I do hope we'll see a proper rudder for helicopters one day.

[kuki767]

Animation of elements of the plug of the bearing screw and step of the steering screw.

 

To translate to those that don't know russian terminology or have trouble understanding: Main rotor and tail rotor animations will also be added.

 

Great news! :thumbup:

[rrohde]

To translate to those that don't know russian terminology or have trouble understanding: Main rotor and tail rotor animations will also be added.

 

Great news! :thumbup:

 

Thanks for the Renglish translation :thumbup:

[Fri13]

I tried it a while ago when I had my Saitek Pro Combat Rudder and the result was very disappointing. The pedals sure held in position but without the spring I didn't feel any resistance when moving it and it felt horribly unrealistic, awkward and difficult to use. I do hope we'll see a proper rudder for helicopters one day.

There are some samples at web people removing the springs and then adding pneumatic gas/fluid springs that will give you the resistance when you move pedals, yet keeps them at position you put them. So you can make small adjustments easily but faster/stronger will generate more resistance.

 

I think they use the typical gas springs that are meant for windows or small hatches.

 

It sounds interesting modification.

 

What I haven't anyone seen (and just came to me) is to make an extension to stick and then put gas springs (3-4) around it near base and this way generate a resistance but steady movement.

[Hunden Ynk]

I tried it a while ago when I had my Saitek Pro Combat Rudder and the result was very disappointing. The pedals sure held in position but without the spring I didn't feel any resistance when moving it and it felt horribly unrealistic, awkward and difficult to use. I do hope we'll see a proper rudder for helicopters one day.

 

I use my Saitek (non-pro though) without centering spring, and just adjust the tension nob to regain resistance. But perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

[microvax]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142565

 

There are proper helicopter pedals out there.

[Nooch]

I use my Saitek (non-pro though) without centering spring, and just adjust the tension nob to regain resistance. But perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

 

I did that too but it still didn't feel right. I suppose some people get used to it pretty easily while others like me can't get over the fact that the pedals don't return to the center or trimmed position when taking pressure off of them.

[1.JaVA_Platypus]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142565

 

There are proper helicopter pedals out there.

 

Yessss... and also very expensive and not so good if you want to have the option for toe brakes as well.