DCS: F-5E!

[Calinho]

Modernized F-5E of Brazilian Air Force

 

Edited February 14, 2016 by Calinho

[mattebubben]

Yea thats a F-5EM so the Cockpit is very much different (New hud MFDs to replace the radar display etc)

 

 

And also the Sight of the F-5 was off the same principle but looked differently then that of the A-4 (Navy and airforce used different Crosshair types)

 

 

This is the FSX F-5E manual.

 

http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/379557/manuals/Virtavia_F-5E_Tiger_II_Manual.pdf

 

At page 19 you have the gunsight (ASG-29) info.

 

Also included a standalone picture.

 

But that Manual might be interesting anyway.

 

Its from FSX and we dont know the exact F-5E modeled so everything might not be identical.

 

But im pretty sure alot of it will follow to the DCS F-5E

Edited February 14, 2016 by mattebubben

[BavarianPilot]

Thank you guys for the answers! :thumbup:

[Kev2go]

:thumbup:

 

 

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[ThorBrasil]

It was to be a version of the Cockpit of the F-5E equal to that of the video. Is there any way to do it Belsimtek?

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[IvanK]

Pretty simple Gunsight in F5E. In Air to Air Missile mode plus Guns LCOS and Guns Snapshot modes. In Air to Mud no computed modes all pre planned depressed sight lines.

 

 

 

[mattebubben]

With a radar lock active will the gunsight compute impact points?

[pepin1234]

With a radar lock active will the gunsight compute impact points?

 

I don't believe so. Take in mind you only have IR missiles for A-A. Also this radar should not be capable of guidance (not sure of that). The most you can do with this radar is a limited detection.

Edited February 16, 2016 by pepin1234

[IvanK]

With a radar lock active will the gunsight compute impact points?

 

Yes. 2 modes available in AA guns. Snapshot mode (AA1) selected manually or by HOTAS dogfight switch used for ftr v ftr combat . Piper represents Bullet position at target range if fired 1 TOF ago.A standard LCOS mode for non maneuvering targets (AA2) has usual LCOS settling times.

[MBot]

Thanks for the good info IvanK. For missile attacks, the radar procedure looks remarkably similar to the MiG-21bis. The gunsight seems to be vastly superiour though.

[Cool Breeze]

With a radar lock active will the gunsight compute impact points?

Are you referring to a radar ranging gunsight?

[mattebubben]

Are you referring to a radar ranging gunsight?

 

Im wondering about the abillity for the Radar / gunsight to work together.

 

Giving Optimum range and perhaps even being able to detect the size (wingspan) of the target but thats less likley.

 

Just trying to gain all the info i can about it.

 

Especially to the point of how much more of an effective A-A Platform it is when it comes to guns (compared to the mig-21)

[ФрогФут]

It locks the target and ranges. That's all, it can provide directional commands to align plane nose/missile seeker with the target and range for gunsight and pilot info.

[Kev2go]

A it so this ting doesn't have computed bombing for air to ground? Only depressive piper?

 

So the sabre jet is more advanced in this regard as it computes distance from air to ground and can either auto release or manual with the sight lights going red when it thinks you should release bombs.

 

 

Only ddepressahle piper? . How depressive :/

[IvanK]

A it so this ting doesn't have computed bombing for air to ground? Only depressive piper?

 

So the sabre jet is more advanced in this regard as it computes distance from air to ground and can either auto release or manual with the sight lights going red when it thinks you should release bombs.

 

 

Only ddepressahle piper? . How depressive :/

 

The F5E is a basic Air to Mud platform no computed delivery modes.... just straight out manual depressed sight line stuff. the gunsight in Air to Ground was however roll stabilised so the pilot didnt have to deal with sight pendulosity errors and wasnt restricted to wings level at weapon release.

[IvanK]

Im wondering about the abillity for the Radar / gunsight to work together.

 

Giving Optimum range and perhaps even being able to detect the size (wingspan) of the target but thats less likley.

 

Just trying to gain all the info i can about it.

 

Especially to the point of how much more of an effective A-A Platform it is when it comes to guns (compared to the mig-21)

 

Radar provides Range data to the sight to allow for the calculation of lead requirements for Air to air Guns in two modes Snapshot and Tracking. the only real difference being the sight settling times and the consequent differences in pilot sight handling. Range is is displayed by the range bar that moves inside the outer reticle. The F5E gunsight was pretty neat when compared to those of equivalent types. In missile modes Range was displayed in a similar way. In Missile mode the pipper represents the missile seaker boresight (corrected for wing twist). So pipper on to get tone.In addition Excess G cue was displayed to indicate you are pulling too much G for missile launch. Really only applicable to AIM9B and perhaps E. Missile seekers could not be slewed by the radar.

 

Manual lock on is similar to the MIG21 in that you have to drive the radar return to both Zero azimuth and elevation then initiate lock on. APQ 153

APQ159 had off boresight Lock capability.

 

2 Auto lock ACM Boresight modes were available one for guns and one for missiles. Only real diff is max range they operate to

Edited February 17, 2016 by IvanK

[IvanK]

What Radar is coming with DCS F5E the AN/APQ 153 or AN/APQ 159 ?

[SkateZilla]

What Radar is coming with DCS F5E the AN/APQ 153 or AN/APQ 159 ?

 

cofcorpse stated that long ago.:

http://forums.eagle.ru/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2579338

 

No, why? We are getting E-3 version as playable, with -159 radar, Countermeasures and RWR. AND there is less advanced E, with -153 radar, without Countermeasures and RWR (which is only AI).

[IvanK]

Ok missed it 159 3

 

Lock sequence AN/APQ 159 Off Boresight lock to max of 10nm:

Edited February 17, 2016 by IvanK

[ThorBrasil]

I have a curiosity. the F-5E-3 is a version after the F-5E Tiger II or before?

[WinterH]

It IS F-5E Tiger II. Same way the F-16C Block 30 and Block 50 are both F-16C Fighting Falcon.

 

I think F-5E 3 is not one of the first models, still early may be, but not the earliest as it has the improved -159 radar. But isn't earlier or later than"F-5E Tiger II" per se, since it is just that, an F-5E Tiger II.

[ThorBrasil]

It IS F-5E Tiger II. Same way the F-16C Block 30 and Block 50 are both F-16C Fighting Falcon.

 

I think F-5E 3 is not one of the first models, still early may be, but not the earliest as it has the improved -159 radar. But isn't earlier or later than"F-5E Tiger II" per se, since it is just that, an F-5E Tiger II.

Thank you!

[mattebubben]

Im guessing that the F-5E has an IFF system together with the radar?

[cofcorpse]

AFAIK, no

[mattebubben]

so no way to tell friend from foe using radar?

 

you need to get eyes on before in ID?

 

Well thats a little bit worrying =(.

 

Even the Mig-21Bis had some IFF Functions.