Rangi Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Harrier is first a CAS aircraft. And the Marines' aircrafts main purpose is CAS too. So it isn't a surprise that they weren't that much interested in AGM-84. In anti-surface mission it can use AGM-65F (IR guidance and anti ship variant of the family). https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/european-navies-worry-about-harrier-arms-22768/ It can, but I wouldn't want to get that close to an armed enemy ship in a harrier, sounds like more of a job for the navy.... PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
mattebubben Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) It can, but I wouldn't want to get that close to an armed enemy ship in a harrier, sounds like more of a job for the navy.... Well its "Anti-ship" mission would be against small lightly armed (Or unarmed) ships. Landing crafts and Patrol Boats as well as Trade ships and transports etc. Small ships (that can be seriously hurt or outright sunk by a AGM-65) with only lighter Anti-Air weapons (smaller autocannons and Manpads etc). Leaving larger ships for Navy aircraft etc. Edited August 20, 2016 by mattebubben
Tilly-B Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 I was commenting on Skjold's statement that the Laser support on the Harrier's FLIR let it guide Mavericks and LGBs. The real question is will we see DITER, and if RAZBAM will allow the aircraft to carry LGBs on conventional TERs. On the TERs. Which hard points were they cleared for? I've only ever seen pictures of TERs on the inner wing pylons, and even then, they only used 2 out of the 3 racks. Would the Harrier be able to carry 6 mavericks, on 2 TERs, as per the A10?
mattebubben Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Not sure if the Harrier is able to carry the AGM-65 TER (Lau-88). Dont think ive seen any Navy or USMC aircraft carry it. (F/A-18,Harrier etc) So i think its Air force only. So i think we will be limited to 4 AGM-65s. (using the two innermost pylons on each wing).
iLOVEwindmills Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Any word if we were getting the TGP on the centerline station? I think it was a later upgrade but it would be very nice to have.
Johnny Dioxin Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Well I've been testing aircraft in VR for another simulator's wiki the last few days and Friday I jumped into the RAZBAM Harrier GR7/9 model with my Rift and my first comment was "Wow! This could be in DCS World!" So I'm sure the genuine article will be something very good. Rig: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; Pimax Crystal Light I'm learning to fly - but I ain't got wings With my head in VR - it's the next best thing!
Tilly-B Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 Any word if we were getting the TGP on the centerline station? I think it was a later upgrade but it would be very nice to have. I don't know if it's been posted already, but here's something I found after a quick google Although it gives information about which load outs cause G to be limited, it doesn't give any info on what those limits are! Interesting about the outer wing pylons. I thought they could only carry sidewinders, but this says Mk82s as well. :thumbup:
mattebubben Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 That list is for the First AV-8B and if you look you can see its published 1986. So long before the AV-8B NA and long before any harrier was equipped with a TGP.
Tilly-B Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 My mistake! I guess the rest of the conventional weapons on the chart apply for the AV8B NA as well? With perhaps the ability to carry a larger payload due to the more powerful engines?
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted August 22, 2016 Posted August 22, 2016 So nice... https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/photos/a.316309961788982.75719.316077818478863/1080535642033073/?type=3&theater Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
frixon28 Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Does anyone have a guess at what stage of development the external model is at based on these pictures?
Tirak Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 It's far too early to tell any sort of progress. Remember, the Tucano is coming out before the Harrier, so don't really start looking into detailed information until that's out for a few months.
AldoUSMC Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 When wondering what a particular military system does or does not do... the Federation of American Scientists Military Analyst Section (fas.org) is a good single-source, open source site to get an education/inform yourself. You can see what they report about the AV-8 variants and what their various capabilities are/have been, who has purchased and operated them around the world etc. Obviously doing multiple source research using primary sources is always the BEST way to educate yourself on a topic... but if you don't have a lot of time... I think you will find FAS is pretty good. No... I don't work for them :book:... I've just done a lot of research over the years is all... Semper Fi AldoUSMC Intel i7-6700 CPU @ 4 GHz, 32 GB Ram, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, Windows 10 Pro -64 Bit
iLOVEwindmills Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) The loadout chart does mention the Lau10 pods, was the Zuni still in use by the time of 'our' Av8B NA? I found they were withdrawn from carrier ops in late 80s, but still used from land bases. So I guess the NA would have access to them? Edited August 25, 2016 by iLOVEwindmills
joey45 Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Does anyone have a guess at what stage of development the external model is at based on these pictures? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Silver_Dragon Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 From RAZBAM FB. AV-8B Night Attack wing update: https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf Wing correction, you can see the difference For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Coxy_99 Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 I found this on there facebook page looking good guys https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/photos/a.316309961788982.75719.316077818478863/1111438658942771/?type=3&theater
Goldsmack Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 Hell yes!! thanks for the new pics guys. Keep it up RAZBAM :thumbup: Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S
Angelthunder Posted September 25, 2016 Author Posted September 25, 2016 I'm looking forward to flying this aircraft.It'll be my own A-10 Thunderbolt II for the Marines and RAF.
Deadpoetic6 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Just asking, since Razbam already did the GR7/GR9 for FSX, how hard would that be to port it to DCS? I know nothing about game making so take this question with a grain of salt, but since it already exist for FSX, i'm guessing they have all the infos on the systems and could use that for DCS no?
Sweep Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Just asking, since Razbam already did the GR7/GR9 for FSX, how hard would that be to port it to DCS? I know nothing about game making so take this question with a grain of salt, but since it already exist for FSX, i'm guessing they have all the infos on the systems and could use that for DCS no? AFAIK they are planned...I recall reading that we'd get the AV-8B (NA) first, then one of the Brit birds (or both? IDK), then the AV-8B+ (w/ the APG-65 in the nose) Lord of Salt
Prowler111 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Just asking, since Razbam already did the GR7/GR9 for FSX, how hard would that be to port it to DCS? I know nothing about game making so take this question with a grain of salt, but since it already exist for FSX, i'm guessing they have all the infos on the systems and could use that for DCS no? FSX and DCS are 2 completely different animals, while in FSX we could get away with many things (since it´s not a combat sim) we can´t do that in DCS and our main problem with the brit birds are it´s exterior sensor pods which up to this date (while some have been phased out) are still pretty much classified. But we´ll get to them in due time
joey45 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Which sensor pods are these? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Vampyre Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Which sensor pods are these? Sniper ATP, TIALD 500, TERMA and DJRP pods. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
Tirak Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 AFAIK they are planned...I recall reading that we'd get the AV-8B (NA) first, then one of the Brit birds (or both? IDK), then the AV-8B+ (w/ the APG-65 in the nose) I think you may be confusing things. RAZBAM put out a poll asking if we wanted an AV-8B or a GR.5/7/9. The poll came out in favor of the GR Harrier, however due to problems with documentation and systems modeling, it was determined the GR Harriers couldn't be done accurately enough, and so with an apology they stated they'd be instead doing the AV-8B(NA), with provisions of doing the AV-8B+ soon after ED's implementation of ground radar. I've heard absolutely nothing about the GRs being back in the mix.
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