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Possible bug? I cannot click on the Marianas button to install module, with OB Server selected. I have to use "Select/Unselect All" button to select everything and unselect all but the Marianas to have it installed.

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8 hours ago, VFGiPJP said:

Possible bug? I cannot click on the Marianas button to install module, with OB Server selected. I have to use "Select/Unselect All" button to select everything and unselect all but the Marianas to have it installed.

 

Log?

Also What Version is your DCS?

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2 hours ago, SkateZilla said:

 

Log?

Also What Version is your DCS?

I know why now, the OB server is not up to date.  Sorry.

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So after installing this and using it to toggle between Oculus and SteamVR mode, I can't for the life of me get the game to launch in Oculus mode anymore... it either launches in 2D, or SteamVR mode.

 

How do I completely uninstall this and undo everything it did to my system? I've already done a full repair of DCS files, and that didn't work, so I'm stumped. What does this actually do when you pick one renderer or the other? Does it change files in some folder outside of DCS?

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6 hours ago, V8O said:

So after installing this and using it to toggle between Oculus and SteamVR mode, I can't for the life of me get the game to launch in Oculus mode anymore... it either launches in 2D, or SteamVR mode.

 

How do I completely uninstall this and undo everything it did to my system? I've already done a full repair of DCS files, and that didn't work, so I'm stumped. What does this actually do when you pick one renderer or the other? Does it change files in some folder outside of DCS?

 

This app does not modify any settings, it merely utilizes command line launch parameters for DCS World.

DCS World itself has parameters that change, and those are in the /Users/UserName/Saved Games/DCS/Config/Options.lua, However there is no "Oculus or SteamVR" Setting.

The Oculus/SteamVR Switch in the App only applies to Launching with VR Mode ON Button, VR Mode Off forces 2D, and the Normal Launch Button will launch DCS without command line variables.

All 3 Buttons simply launch DCS w/ command line variables and does not touch DCS Files.

Understand how the app works before you blame it for unrelated symptoms.


If it's still launching w/ SteamVR, then the Dropdown menu/switch in the app is still set to SteamVR, change it back to oculus.


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Another possible stupid issue: my OB server has 2 maps I do not have license with. How can I uninstall them? I choose the "+" sign next to the map, choose uninstall but nothing happens.

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8 hours ago, SkateZilla said:

This app does not modify any settings, it merely utilizes command line launch parameters for DCS World.

Which command line parameters are those and where in the app are they documented? I'm more than happy to "understand how the app works" if the means to do so are provided. All I could find is "these settings only affect the VR ON button", which doesn't tell me what is actually being done by the app.
 

I meant no offense by asking "what does the app do so I can undo it". I didn't ask this because I want to "blame" the app or whatever - to me it's just some app, I don't care. But I figured you might, since it's your app...? Is someone describing a problem they've encountered after running your app (coincidentally or not) not something you want to hear about?

 

Anyway, I'm still going to describe what happened to me, so that future people perhaps-coincidentally affected by the same issue can work it out. If you at any point think this has anything to do with your app, I'm happy to provide details, videos, logs, whatever, as the issue is still ongoing and I've now found a (to me, nonsensical) workaround. If you don't want to hear any of it because you're certain that it's just sheer coincidence, just ignore me. My intention here at this stage is to be constructive and to help others who may run into the same issue, not to attribute blame.

 

So, I installed the updater and used it to run DCS (standalone) in SteamVR mode. I did that as explained in the app, i.e. using the VR ON button with the dropdown in the settings page set to SteamVR. Everything worked as expected, i.e. DCS launched in SteamVR mode instead of Oculus. I made no other changes to my system as far as I can tell - no changes to Oculus settings, SteamVR settings, DCS in-game settings, etc. Had a perfectly working DCS standalone install up to that point, running in Oculus mode on a daily basis with no issues.

 

After that, I'm done with my little SteamVR experiment, so I don't need the app anymore. I shut it down and go back to launching DCS normally, without using the app (so nothing to do with the "VR ON" button). Then I realize I can no longer get DCS to start in Oculus mode. When I launch DCS (through my usual desktop shortcut), if VR is enabled in the options.lua OR forced through the command line, then DCS tries to launch in SteamVR mode, but fails to find a headset. If VR is disabled in the options.lua, or forced off through the command line, then DCS launches in 2D mode (as expected)

 

So at that point I start trying different things to fix it:

1) Run via the app again, setting the drop-down back to Oculus mode, and launching via the "VR ON" button again = no change (still launched DCS in SteamVR mode instead, with SteamVR failing to find a headset).

2) Full DCS cleanup + repair = no change

3) Renaming my saved games folder, to let DCS recreate all preferences from its defaults = no change

4) Switching my Quest 2 back and forth between link cable mode and airlink mode = no change

5) Uninstalling SteamVR = some change, in that DCS launches in 2D mode regardless of the options.lua and command line parameters (so again acting as if no headset was present).

 

What eventually fixed it:

Renaming my DCS folder (the actual install folder, not the Saved Games folder). After doing this, I could reinstall SteamVR, restore my old preferences, etc. Basically put everything back to normal, except my DCS folder is a different path. If I rename my DCS folder back to its original name, everything breaks again. So for now I have a perfectly working DCS install, as long as I don't rename it back to what it was. Makes no sense to me, but beats a broken install.


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2 hours ago, V8O said:

Which command line parameters are those and where in the app are they documented? I'm more than happy to "understand how the app works" if the means to do so are provided. All I could find is "these settings only affect the VR ON button", which doesn't tell me what is actually being done by the app.
 

I meant no offense by asking "what does the app do so I can undo it". I didn't ask this because I want to "blame" the app or whatever - to me it's just some app, I don't care. But I figured you might, since it's your app...? Is someone describing a problem they've encountered after running your app (coincidentally or not) not something you want to hear about?

 

Anyway, I'm still going to describe what happened to me, so that future people perhaps-coincidentally affected by the same issue can work it out. If you at any point think this has anything to do with your app, I'm happy to provide details, videos, logs, whatever, as the issue is still ongoing and I've now found a (to me, nonsensical) workaround. If you don't want to hear any of it because you're certain that it's just sheer coincidence, just ignore me. My intention here at this stage is to be constructive and to help others who may run into the same issue, not to attribute blame.

 

So, I installed the updater and used it to run DCS (standalone) in SteamVR mode. I did that as explained in the app, i.e. using the VR ON button with the dropdown in the settings page set to SteamVR. Everything worked as expected, i.e. DCS launched in SteamVR mode instead of Oculus. I made no other changes to my system as far as I can tell - no changes to Oculus settings, SteamVR settings, DCS in-game settings, etc. Had a perfectly working DCS standalone install up to that point, running in Oculus mode on a daily basis with no issues.

 

After that, I'm done with my little SteamVR experiment, so I don't need the app anymore. I shut it down and go back to launching DCS normally, without using the app (so nothing to do with the "VR ON" button). Then I realize I can no longer get DCS to start in Oculus mode. When I launch DCS (through my usual desktop shortcut), if VR is enabled in the options.lua OR forced through the command line, then DCS tries to launch in SteamVR mode, but fails to find a headset. If VR is disabled in the options.lua, or forced off through the command line, then DCS launches in 2D mode (as expected)

 

So at that point I start trying different things to fix it:

1) Run via the app again, setting the drop-down back to Oculus mode, and launching via the "VR ON" button again = no change (still launched DCS in SteamVR mode instead, with SteamVR failing to find a headset).

2) Full DCS cleanup + repair = no change

3) Renaming my saved games folder, to let DCS recreate all preferences from its defaults = no change

4) Switching my Quest 2 back and forth between link cable mode and airlink mode = no change

5) Uninstalling SteamVR = some change, in that DCS launches in 2D mode regardless of the options.lua and command line parameters (so again acting as if no headset was present).

 

What eventually fixed it:

Renaming my DCS folder (the actual install folder, not the Saved Games folder). After doing this, I could reinstall SteamVR, restore my old preferences, etc. Basically put everything back to normal, except my DCS folder is a different path. If I rename my DCS folder back to its original name, everything breaks again. So for now I have a perfectly working DCS install, as long as I don't rename it back to what it was. Makes no sense to me, but beats a broken install.

 

 

This Sounds Like an SteamVR issue where it watches the folder and overrides Oculus. I Will look into it to see if I can re-produce.

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9 hours ago, SkateZilla said:

 

This Sounds Like an SteamVR issue where it watches the folder and overrides Oculus. I Will look into it to see if I can re-produce.

Thanks, following up on that lead I've found the issue and been able to reproduce it and fix it for good. Looking at the SteamVR logs it seems that every attempt after the first successful DCS run failed with the message "oculus: OVR Error: Code: -3005 -- ovrError_IncompatibleOS Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or a later operating system version is required."

 

So I check DCS.exe and see it's set to Win 7 compatibility. I turn that off, all works fine. Then I install your updater app again and launch it via "VR ON" in Oculus mode. Works fine, over several runs. I try it again, but setting it to SteamVR mode. It works fine... but only the first time. Then it's back to the same crash, same error log, compatibility mode turned on again. So at this point I know the issue is that something is changing that setting, and it only happens upon/after successfully launching DCS via SteamVR.

 

I don't normally use SteamVR (according to the logs I hadn't used it for 7 months heh), and no longer have any other VR apps on my DCS PC, so I'm out of options to test this. However I noticed that uninstalling SteamVR did not uninstall any of the addons / overlays I had on there (some probably months out of date). So, I go with the nuclear option and do a full uninstall of both SteamVR and Steam, then manually delete all the files leftover in my Steam folders (including the ones in the Users folder, my old WMR stuff which I no longer need, etc.). After that, I reinstall Steam and SteamVR... and all works fine - launching DCS via SteamVR (which I still know no way of doing, other than by using your app) no longer randomly sets DCS.exe to compatibility mode, and so it no longer crashes regardless of the VR SDK choice.

 

So, to anyone running into the same issue, just double-check your DCS.exe compatibility settings. If you find that something keeps resetting it every time you launch SteamVR, it's something in your SteamVR causing it. If you don't want to go through the hassle of uninstalling everything related to SteamVR, either simply turn compatibility mode back off every time (if you want to keep using SteamVR for DCS) or turn it off once and then never run DCS in SteamVR mode again.


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19 minutes ago, V8O said:

However I noticed that uninstalling SteamVR did not uninstall any of the addons / overlays I had on there (some probably months out of date). So, I go with the nuclear option and do a full uninstall of both SteamVR and Steam, then manually delete all the files leftover in my Steam folders (including the ones in the Users folder, my old WMR stuff which I no longer need, etc.).

 

On a side note, this is one of my biggest gripes why i don't install Steam anymore on my PC. It just nests everywhere and when uninstalled leaves a hugh bit of leftovers about everywhere (just check your registry after uninstalling). They just don't play nice, uninstall is uninstall, totally. Period.

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My app should not be changing compatibility modes of the files for sure.

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Question: can I use this to save different display profiles? And if so, can I rename them? How would I go about doing this if its possible?

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Hi, just discovered this useful tool, however, after setting it all up and browsing my install and saved game paths etc, next time I use it, these are not saved.....how can I do this?

 

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id have to guess, but where did you install it @markturner1960? it should automatically save them

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i just run the .exe from a folder on my desktop?

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Coming back again to SteamVR, i wish to know how your app is able to launch DCS on SteamVR.

 

Im a Quest 2 user but i need to use SteamVR for using ReShade but im unable of doing it without your launcher, what are the console commands (or any other change needed) to change launch between one or another API without using your launcher?

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I'm using this tool for a long time. But since the auto update is disabled I updated it rarely.

I use the version 10.2.2020. If I try to update to the newest verion, all settings are gone. How to migrate the setting?

Found it:

 

Change log 1.1.0.1040 / 5.3.2021:
-Adjusted Settings File, Will Require user to re-do all settings

 

Really??? grmmpf


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Thanks for this app, very cool.


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For a long time now, I have felt that this app is the #1 essential add on for DCS.  Looking at the fist page, it shows that the latest update has been downloaded only about 2,000 times!

Why isn't everyone using this tool?

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For a long time now, I have felt that this app is the #1 essential add on for DCS.  Looking at the fist page, it shows that the latest update has been downloaded only about 2,000 times!
Why isn't everyone using this tool?
I was thinking the same. Can't believe that not more people use it.

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Same here, been thinking about this every time i read someone wants to create DCS icons which load up VR or pancake mode, switch versions etc...

This tool has all in one, you can start in whatever mode you want, you can start in any setting you want depending on in which mode you want to play (i have 3, one for offline play, one for online play and one for VR). You can switch to any version, update, launch extra software from it...


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yep, its a swiss army knife for DCS ... but i suspect those of us who use it tend to "fiddle" more than most.  But  I don't know what i'd do without it!

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I use it mostly for swapping between VR and TIR settings as well as easy updating. 

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So, is there a way with this tool to customize the way it launches DCS?

With virtual desktop in VR I need to launch DCS with this command line :

"C:\Program Files\Virtual Desktop Streamer\VirtualDesktop.Streamer.exe" "S:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe"

 

Can we do that with this app and how?

 

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Go to app settings, and  select external application and launch from there...  if you click the tick box it gets launched with dcs.


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