Oculus Rift with DCS World Discussion

[Deezle]

Deezle: It comes down to how much the 3D/VR means to you. For me I don't think I could go back to a 3 monitor set-up. It's like real world v. arcade. I know we all struggle with the graphics some more some less. When I first got started with Rift I knew I needed to do some serious tweaking and investigate how to do more tweaking which is exactly what I did and brought my graphics up to a more than acceptable level. Now combined with the VR...there's no going back for me!

I had a bit of queasiness the first few days but then it stopped.

Don't get me wrong, I love all the 3d details that pop out that you never notice with a monitor, and the resolution is what I'd call adequate for helo work, I'm just not sure it's for me with the narrow FOV and making most of my pit unusable. The depth perception was always the biggest thing I've wanted out of VR but I've gotten to the point where I can set a helo down anywhere I need it without VR (and even a little better with VR of course), so it isn't really a need at this point. I'll probably enjoy the novelty for a bit more and then sell it off, shouldn't lose much if any for what I paid.

[hansangb]

Don't get me wrong, I love all the 3d details that pop out that you never notice with a monitor, and the resolution is what I'd call adequate for helo work, I'm just not sure it's for me with the narrow FOV and making most of my pit unusable. The depth perception was always the biggest thing I've wanted out of VR but I've gotten to the point where I can set a helo down anywhere I need it without VR (and even a little better with VR of course), so it isn't really a need at this point. I'll probably enjoy the novelty for a bit more and then sell it off, shouldn't lose much if any for what I paid.

 

 

It's not for everyone. But I noticed you're using 970. Are you also in Win7? with 970, you may not have enough horsepower and it's causing timewarp to kick in. And if you don't have W10, space warp can't even kick in.

 

The latency caused by missing frames causes the motion sickness. I remember getting sick with DK2 and non-optimized DCS. These days, I don't have any issues. Finally, try some ginger. It works amazing well for motion sickness. Every bit as good as Dramamine w/o having to take, well, Dramamine.

[fitness88]

Don't get me wrong, I love all the 3d details that pop out that you never notice with a monitor, and the resolution is what I'd call adequate for helo work, I'm just not sure it's for me with the narrow FOV and making most of my pit unusable. The depth perception was always the biggest thing I've wanted out of VR but I've gotten to the point where I can set a helo down anywhere I need it without VR (and even a little better with VR of course), so it isn't really a need at this point. I'll probably enjoy the novelty for a bit more and then sell it off, shouldn't lose much if any for what I paid.

 

 

 

I wouldn't wait too long if you have plans to sell it...the price in Canada dropped by $200.00 a couple of weeks ago and I think by $100.00 in the U.S..

[fitness88]

:thumbup: Thank You for sharing this info,I realized my monitor was sill using the Old screw pin type cable but both my monitor and graphics card where HDMI compatible,Got the cable,Changed Dynamic Color to "Full Range".Changed Vibrancy to 70.Gave it a go and...Wow!! Very,very nice:thumbup: I'm still experimenting with my settings but It seems to lesson the screen door effect for me.

 

 

 

Please post back here if you find any other settings that will work through this procedure.

 

 

I received an email back from the support team at Oculus, in response to my question about not having full graphics card integration:

We're going to take some time to look into this so please be patient with us as we do that.

Regards,

Peter

Oculus Support

 

[Corbett1403]

Since iv updated Dcs. It seems resolution has got worst for me. Not as clear as before. Anyone else had these issues?

[freehand]

Please post back here if you find any other settings that will work through this procedure.

 

 

I received an email back from the support team at Oculus, in response to my question about not having full graphics card integration:

We're going to take some time to look into this so please be patient with us as we do that.

Regards,

Peter

Oculus Support

 

 

Hi fitness I am glad it worked out for you.

 

Also have you used the stand alone calibration Tool helps with latency and lag plus tilt problems due to temperature issues.

 

Which ends up people feeling a little sickly.

[fitness88]

Hi fitness I am glad it worked out for you.

 

Also have you used the stand alone calibration Tool helps with latency and lag plus tilt problems due to temperature issues.

 

Which ends up people feeling a little sickly.

 

 

No never heard of it but fortunately I don't have any of those issues.

[fitness88]

Since iv updated Dcs. It seems resolution has got worst for me. Not as clear as before. Anyone else had these issues?

 

 

 

See the post regarding video card tweaking, it helps.

[diceman]

See the post regarding video card tweaking, it helps.

 

I have been back to playing it flat-screen and I tried DCS 2 with the VR last night. MAN, I still love the depth of the cockpits, and as far as A2A, I can deal with it.

 

Imma try that video card deal to see what that gets me.

[Snails161]

I bought a brand new all singing MSI system, 1070 graphics card, 16gb ram and a nice new oculus rift to throw myself into VR flying and initially it was great..... but now I seem to spend more time trying to balance everything to get a nice decent stable framework than I do flying! Don't get me wrong it's immersive until it starts juddering and slowing down. Anything other than a simple mission is like watching a slideshow...I hope I nice big VR fix is coming our way with 2.5 or I feel my days of VR flying are over:(

[=DECOY=]

I bought a brand new all singing MSI system, 1070 graphics card, 16gb ram and a nice new oculus rift to throw myself into VR flying and initially it was great..... but now I seem to spend more time trying to balance everything to get a nice decent stable framework than I do flying! Don't get me wrong it's immersive until it starts juddering and slowing down. Anything other than a simple mission is like watching a slideshow...I hope I nice big VR fix is coming our way with 2.5 or I feel my days of VR flying are over:(

what settings / pd are you use .

 

maybe we can help out.

[Snails161]

I'm running a pd of 1.6 and I think I've tried every combination of settings under the sun, any tips or advice is most welcome.

[dburne]

I'm running a pd of 1.6 and I think I've tried every combination of settings under the sun, any tips or advice is most welcome.

 

That is odd, I would think you should be able to run pretty smoothly - but I don't know the rest of your system specs either...

You might also list your graphics settings - are you setting them in game or using Nvidia control panel?

[boedha68]

I'm running a pd of 1.6 and I think I've tried every combination of settings under the sun, any tips or advice is most welcome.

 

Drop all settings too a minimum. I mean ALL! Then test! After that you can crank up a little bit.

 

The minimum settings are crucial!:D

 

Running a SSD drive?

 

euhm...dcs 2.0 alpha is more VR friendly then 1.5.6.

Edited March 17, 2017 by boedha68

[diceman]

I just clicked the "VR" setting, and turned off "Field of View", put water to LOW and shadows to flat.....runs real nice and good frame rates just flying or in combat.

[Snails161]

Thanks guys, I'll keep plodding on. It's too good to give up on. One last thing though what PD are most of you settling with?

[dburne]

Thanks guys, I'll keep plodding on. It's too good to give up on. One last thing though what PD are most of you settling with?

 

I run at 1.5 PD, I have found it best for me - anything above I can see very little difference at a larger performance hit.

[Snails161]

[crowebar]

Snails161, if you also check posts by fitness88 he recommends setting the graphics settings for the Rift HDMI port to Nvidia controlled & and Vibrance setting within the nvidia control panel to 70 - 80 ish.

[Snails161]

Guys thanks for all the help, much appreciated, however....and this is the weirdest thing...in my last session using the f5e module, free flight as a benchmark I noticed large frame rate drops near the dam, all this was water on low along with most other things, but for some reason I thought I'd go the other way and stuck visibility to high...problem solved 45fpm steady. Not only that I found that I can run with detail and ground textures on high as well???

So In in a nutshell

 

Detail high

Ground high

Water high

Visibility ultra

Shadows low

Dirt off

Flare on

MSA x4

HDR on

Cockpit 256( can't see a difference to 1024)

Of 1.5

Antrascopic filter x16

V sink off

Terrain shadows flat

 

45fps with asw on, the only drop being over Vegas( but still flyable)

[freehand]

The engine is a strange beast I have a very moderate system gtx 970 card and the more work I give it the better performance in return but not to much.

[hansangb]

Guys thanks for all the help, much appreciated, however....and this is the weirdest thing...in my last session using the f5e module, free flight as a benchmark I noticed large frame rate drops near the dam, all this was water on low along with most other things, but for some reason I thought I'd go the other way and stuck visibility to high...problem solved 45fpm steady. Not only that I found that I can run with detail and ground textures on high as well???

So In in a nutshell

 

Detail high

Ground high

Water high

Visibility ultra

Shadows low

Dirt off

Flare on

MSA x4

HDR on

Cockpit 256( can't see a difference to 1024)

Of 1.5

Antrascopic filter x16

V sink off

Terrain shadows flat

 

45fps with asw on, the only drop being over Vegas( but still flyable)

 

 

It helps if you post your HW spec so people can compare the performance.

[dogbite]

Guys thanks for all the help, much appreciated, however....and this is the weirdest thing...in my last session using the f5e module, free flight as a benchmark I noticed large frame rate drops near the dam, all this was water on low along with most other things, but for some reason I thought I'd go the other way and stuck visibility to high...problem solved 45fpm steady. Not only that I found that I can run with detail and ground textures on high as well???

So In in a nutshell

 

Detail high

Ground high

Water high

Visibility ultra

Shadows low

Dirt off

Flare on

MSA x4

HDR on

Cockpit 256( can't see a difference to 1024)

Of 1.5

Antrascopic filter x16

V sink off

Terrain shadows flat

 

45fps with asw on, the only drop being over Vegas( but still flyable)

 

 

Dial everything back and slowly turn up until you start to feel judder.The difference between low and high is not that big if you can't get a good Pixel Density (above 1.5 is not that big a change).. Turn off AA as at VR res with PD you won't really notice it. In normal VR titles the gpu is king. DCS, being an older engine only recently to be ported to DX11 and VR is way more cpu (clock) intensive. If you haven't, OC to at least 4.2 gigahertz if you can. That said, don't expect RoboRecall graphics quality out of this old beast.

Edited March 20, 2017 by dogbite

[Shack]

Click through Oculus pointer

 

How does one use the Oculus pointer to click on cockpit switches ?

[RUS38]

How does one use the Oculus pointer to click on cockpit switches ?

 

I map my mouse buttons to x55 throttle rocker switch(down - left click, up - right click) works pretty well, then point with my head where I need to click. Although I do keep mouse enabled cause I still use it to navigate the \ menu and I like how this way the pointer disappears when not in use. The only inconvenience is that I have to bring the pointer back to the center of view when I finish using the mouse.

Edited March 20, 2017 by RUS38