Russian ww2 aircraft Modules?

[Kev2go]

since current aircraft are late war piston fighters from 1944-45.

 

 

what would you all think about a Yak3, La7, and Il2/ Il10 sturmovik modules?

 

Even if there is no eastern front planned or in Works atm, i think Russia deserves to be represented in the ww2 era, with the aforementioned aircraft.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Kev2go

[VincentLaw]

There is an I-16 project being worked on, though it is unclear to me if they have a third party license yet.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=133052

 

There are also some screenshots of Russian cockpits floating around the internet that were reportedly commissioned for DCS, but there are no details on the development status of those planes.

[Solty]

I16 doesn't quite fit. Some day after the standard 6 planes, P38, bomber B25/24/17, Typhoon/ Tempest, Fw190A8, I would be ok with some Soviet airplanes.

Edited May 6, 2016 by Solty

[gavagai]

i think Russia deserves to be represented in the ww2 era, with the aforementioned aircraft.

 

Of course it does, but the Yak-3 will look even funnier over Normandy than the 109K.

[Paradox]

Of course it does, but the Yak-3 will look even funnier over Normandy than the 109K.

 

I don't know about that

 

The Normandie-Niemen group of the free french airforce flew YaK-3s

 

They flew them on the Eastern Front but it's still a Normandy unit

 

I personally would like a La-5 for the challenge of flying with EVERYTHING on manual controls

 

Not sure if the YaK-3 is like that too

[NORTHMAN]

There is an I-16 project being worked on, though it is unclear to me if they have a third party license yet.

 

If I remember well, it's a mod. I have nothing about mod but I prefer ED or third party licence module. If, ever, an I-16 module is available i'll buy it.

 

Russian ww2 aircraft deserve, at least a Yak, a Lavotchkin and a MiG. Japanese aircraft Should be awesome too! We could have a better global picture of the second great war.

[MAD-MM]

After current development pace, would happy with a batch of planes how fit to Normandy in 10 years we can go for Russian planes :music_whistling:

[Ala13_ManOWar]

since current aircraft are late war piston fighters from 1944-45.

 

 

what would you all think about a Yak3, La7, and Il2/ Il10 sturmovik modules?

 

Even if there is no eastern front planned or in Works atm, i think Russia deserves to be represented in the ww2 era, with the aforementioned aircraft.

Indeed mate!! I would love to see a La5FN or La7 DCS level module with accurate FM and systems model, or a late model Yak of course. Yeah, you're right we'll have a Normandy map, but aren't we flying now the rare battle of Georgia :P with our planes? And still those Russian fighters would fit Kuban (and Crimea…) front better than anything we already have.

 

There wasn't an La9 3D out there indeed? It would also be awesome together with the current Korean war planeset we already have.

 

S!

[WinterH]

If I remember well, it's a mod. I have nothing about mod but I prefer ED or third party licence module. If, ever, an I-16 module is available i'll buy it.

 

I think it actually has EFM, and systems too, so seems more a proper module than a mod to me. But even then, it is bit of a curiosity. I'm sure it's quirky flight characteristics and crazy turn performance would be enjoyable. But, against disciplined pilots, it is just out of it's league against any currently released or in development WW II birds.

 

Well personally, I like post WW II Russian aircraft, but in WW II, I am not much into them for some reason. May be them being modeled as UFOs in original IL-2 series have left a bad taste don't know :). I'd rather prefer WW II in DCS to expand to earlier periods like '40-'43. And Pacific too, which is happening anyway.

 

That said, stuff like Yak-3, Yak-9U, La-5FN, La-7 etc would fit with late war theme fairly well too. And are beautiful planes with pretty high performance as well. Also I've always liked IL-2 / IL-10. Late WWII Soviet planes may also find work on Korea themed missions too.

 

Funnily enough, I'd prefer a Pe-2 to most of the usual suspects I have listed though. It is one of the prettiest twin engine planes of WW II in my opinion, and was also quite versatile, it could be a medium bobmer, an attack plane, dive bomber, and even a heavy fighter in a pinch.

[Krupi]

I16 doesn't quite fit. Some day after the standard 6 planes, P38, bomber B25/24/17, Typhoon/ Tempest, Fw190A8, I would be ok with some Soviet airplanes.

 

LOL we definitely should not have to wait for all those to be released before a Russian ww2 aircraft is released that is just ridiculous and foolish.

[gavagai]

that is just ridiculous and foolish.

 

Be nice. Keep in mind we're debating opinions here, not actual knowledge of how best to proceed.

 

Some of us hope that the development of future aircraft focuses on aircraft that fit together tightly on the same map. Some want expansion into more theaters right away. We'll have to get along with both opinions.:smilewink:

[Sporg]

One could hope for some East front action coming with Polychop's Ju-87 Stuka, the G-series especially.

That would fit right in. :)

[Kev2go]

LOL we definitely should not have to wait for all those to be released before a Russian ww2 aircraft is released that is just ridiculous and foolish.

 

 

its not any less ridiculous or foolish to have Russian yak or LA than it is to be flying current ww2 aircraft modules in Georgia, or over Nevada., with fictional scenarios. some like myself would still enjoy flying these aircraft, even if there aren't exact historical maps or missions for them.

 

 

and as pointed out Yak 3 was in service with the French Normany-Niemen Group so it wouldn't be out of place for a Yak 3 to be seen in 1944 Normandy theater.

 

from a historical perspective Germans did fight the Russians in the Caucasus region of Russia all from 1942-44., which would have included the russian borders of the current Georgia map.

 

so flying russian aircraft in that map isnt really unfathomable either.

Edited May 7, 2016 by Kev2go

[gavagai]

and as pointed out Yak 3 was in service with the French Normany-Niemen Group so it wouldn't be out of place for a Yak 3 to be seen in 1944 Normandy theater.

 

So far as I know, no Yak-3 flew in France in 1944. Wikipedia says they didn't return to France with the Yak-3 until June 1945.

[Zunzun]

As we do not have a Normandy map yet that is not a good reason. The same as saying we shouldn´t have had any of the current ww2 modules as there isn´t a map historically representative for them yet.

Introducing a Russian plane would be the same as when the mustang was first introduced, a rara avis and apparently out of place but a strong signal of things to come.

Moreover, is there is a new third party willing to do ww2 soviet planes it will be indepent of any of the other dcs or other 3rd party developments.

I would be very happy indeed if they are developed. Even if it is the i-16 with not a good match in the current planeset.

[Weedwacker]

You guys already have a eastern front.

Battle of the Caucasus

 

 

 

You would just need to recreate it for 42-44.

[mjmorrow]

Soviet WWII planes may not best fit a Normandy map and there are certainly many great non Soviet planes that will fit that map. Still, there just so happens to be some fantastic 3D models for potential DCS Korean War Era Soviet planes out there, such as for the La-9 and the Yak-9U. I would personally really love to see these rides in DCS, especially the Yak-9U. The models I am referring to were created by the same person behind making the 3D model for the DCS MIG-15bis and the DCS BF-109 K4, great models, like all his other work. See his work, here: http://psy06.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/

 

:thumbup: MJ

Edited May 7, 2016 by mjmorrow

[Zunzun]

So Soviet planes doesn´t fit in an non existing yet map (Normandy) but would do it in a non existing/non announced map (Korea)....:huh:

I Do not think would be difficult then to think about a propper easter front map for those non existing neither planned ww2 soviet planes :P

[mjmorrow]

So Soviet planes doesn´t fit in an non existing yet map (Normandy) but would do it in a non existing/non announced map (Korea)....:huh:

I Do not think would be difficult then to think about a propper easter front map for those non existing neither planned ww2 soviet planes :P

 

I am all for Soviet planes in DCS World. My two favorite DCS World planes are the Mig-15bis and the Mig-21bis. The plane I want most in DCS World is the Mig-17F, after that plane, I most want the I-16, Mig-3, Yak-9U, Mig-19, Mig-23, Mig-25, Mig-29, Su-27S, Su-22, Su-24, Su-25....let's just say, I like planes with red stars. If you want Soviet planes in DCS, I am behind you all the way. Certainly, Soviet planes fit DCS World.

 

A map for Soviet planes comes as part of the Free to Play version of DCS World. The Yak-9U and the La-9 will fit in DCS, any Soviet plane will fit in DCS World. I was simply conceding that there are non Soviet planes that would probably make more sense for the Normandy map, in particular. I also pointed out that great models are already made for a potential Korean War Era DCS Yak-9U and DCS La-9. Both rides would be awesome and would certainly fit on the Free to play DCS World map, without a need to create a Korea map or any other map. :thumbup: MJ

Edited May 7, 2016 by mjmorrow

[MAD-MM]

Come on guys we get 3 planes in 3 years, just now Normandy map in sight ed should just build soviet fighters? first they should bring proper plane setup for Normandy map?

[Zunzun]

Come on guys we get 3 planes in 3 years, just now Normandy map in sight ed should just build soviet fighters? first they should bring proper plane setup for Normandy map?

 

Who is saying ED? Could be a new 3erd party.

[Kev2go]

As we do not have a Normandy map yet that is not a good reason. The same as saying we shouldn´t have had any of the current ww2 modules as there isn´t a map historically representative for them yet.

Introducing a Russian plane would be the same as when the mustang was first introduced, a rara avis and apparently out of place but a strong signal of things to come.

Moreover, is there is a new third party willing to do ww2 soviet planes it will be indepent of any of the other dcs or other 3rd party developments.

I would be very happy indeed if they are developed. Even if it is the i-16 with not a good match in the current planeset.

 

 

thats not an excuse to not add aircraft. at some point all aircraft have always been Orphan planes. IE F86 that came out first before later release of Mig15. and Mig21bis currently is, until F5E tiger 2 comes out.

 

 

besides yak 3s fought german 109s and Fw 190s. following its service introduction.

 

it saw air war during the battle of berin in 1945, so Bf109 K4 and Fw190 d9 against yak 3 isnt out of the question either.

 

 

people are obsessing too much over exact historical accuracy and maps, overlooking the fact that p51, bf109 and fw190 having been fighting each other in Cacsus and Nevada for a long while.

 

 

so if anything Yak 3 is probably the most ideal starting point for a russian ww2 piston fighter, due to the other types of late war piston fighters already in game.

Edited May 7, 2016 by Kev2go

[gavagai]

Come on guys we get 3 planes in 3 years, just now Normandy map in sight ed should just build soviet fighters? first they should bring proper plane setup for Normandy map?

 

One of the common criticisms I've read in other forums is that DCS aircraft are a la carte and don't fit together well for any particular scenario or map.

 

I would also prefer that new aircraft, from ED or 3rd parties, focus on one specific map and time period until it has some meat on the bones.

[Kurfürst]

what would you all think about a Yak3, La7, and Il2/ Il10 sturmovik modules?

 

I would sell a kidney for a Yak 3. Can't sell the other, already has mortgage on it for the Me 410. :helpsmilie:

[lmp]

I would love a late Yak-9 variant. It would fit both in the late WW2 context against the current German planes and in the early Korean War against the P-51 (though the North Korean flown Yaks didn't acquit themselves well).