Kayos Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 Just wondering if anyone knows if any of our current mutli-seat aircraft will be getting multi-crew any time soon? Huey, Hawk, Gazelle etc... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
WR269 Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 Indeed, this will be a world changer if and when it does get applied Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
dudeman17 Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 id love to see multi-crew capabilities for every possible aircraft however with the hawk is is a trainer which i assume means the controls for the front and back would be close to the same. so i don't see a benefit but i think it would still be fun. ASUS ROG Strix X570-E MB | Ryzen 9 5950x | ASUS Tuf RTX 4080 | 64 GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 MHz DDR4 | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB m.2 Nvme | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind | Track IR 5 | Gigabyte M27Q-P 1440p 165hz |
Cool Breeze Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 The Gazelle is supposed to be getting multi-crew in the future no ETA has been proposed that I have seen. The Hawk isn't getting multi-crew any time soon as VEAO says they must build the cockpit and rework most of the coding to allow it. So its very low on their priorities. The Belsimtek modules.... who knows they may get around to it they may not. I hope they do implement it. An actual working crew chief/gunner position would be great! "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
ZQuickSilverZ Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 The Hawk isn't getting multi-crew any time soon as VEAO says they must build the cockpit and rework most of the coding to allow it. So its very low on their priorities. The Belsimtek modules.... who knows they may get around to it they may not. I hope they do implement it. An actual working crew chief/gunner position would be great! If they don't implement multi-crew in the Hawk that would be pretty upsetting considering it is a TRAINER aircraft........ I assume a lot of people bought it for that purpose. Not being able to train others in it would be a slap in the face. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Call911 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 been waiting for multicrew for the huey since it was first released in beta, can't imagine flyin the F-14 an or F-18 without it in the future think ED is busy with other stuff an merge of 1.5/2.0.
Vedexent Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 If they don't implement multi-crew in the Hawk that would be pretty upsetting considering it is a TRAINER aircraft........ I assume a lot of people bought it for that purpose. Not being able to train others in it would be a slap in the face. I might be mistaken, but I in no way recall there being any significant talk about the Hawk being multi-user, or a promise that you could train other people in it. I'm not sure I'd use a multi-seat aircraft to train a new DCS player, either: a Twitch (like? esque?) stream and TS3 would work just as well, and allow you to use any aircraft. The Hawk is also a aerobatic team aircraft - and I suspect that many people bought it for that aspect, totally independently of its use a a trainer aircraft, although - since I can't run around and poll any significant number of the people who bough the Hawk - I can't make that assumption, either.
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mvsgas Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Just wondering if anyone knows if any of our current mutli-seat aircraft will be getting multi-crew any time soon? Huey, Hawk, Gazelle etc... Do you mean multi crew as in the AI targeting and firing weapons as you fly (and vise versa) or do you mean multi crew as in two people in the same aircraft working together? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Grimes Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Do you mean multi crew as in the AI targeting and firing weapons as you fly (and vise versa) or do you mean multi crew as in two people in the same aircraft working together? Multi-crew stands for multiplayer crew, so the latter. 1 The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Oesau Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Well the L-39C is Multi crew (yep, trainer, but still multi crew)
chromium Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 can't imagine flyin the F-14 an or F-18 without it F-18C is single crew. Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
kazereal Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 F-18C is single crew. A and C are pilot-only, B and D are dual-seat trainers. "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
kazereal Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Just wondering if anyone knows if any of our current mutli-seat aircraft will be getting multi-crew any time soon? Huey, Hawk, Gazelle etc... C-101 does have second seat as well. "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
QuiGon Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) My current stand of information is the following: Multicrew available: - L-39 Albatross Multicrew planned: - UH-1 Huey - Gazelle - F-14 Tomcat - Mi-8? The Hawk is not supposed to get multicrewing. Don't know about the C-101. A and C are pilot-only, B and D are dual-seat trainers. Only B is a Trainer. The backseat in the D is a fully operational WSO-cockpit like in the F-15E. Edited May 7, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
ZQuickSilverZ Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) The Hawk is not supposed to get multicrewing.You sure about that? ################################################################ Crow has also started on remodelling the ejection seat and soon to start on the rear cockpit model. Cheers, Chris. ################################################################ Don't you think BST and ED shares parts of codes or 'way-to-do-it' regarding such features? ;) VEAO has announced recently they will create the rear cockpit of their 'DCS: Hawk' (source) Guess it's to use it... No promises (EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE ;) ) but we are looking at multi-crew capability. When we have solid news we can share, we'll let you know. 8) Best regards, Tango. Not sure if Tango works for VEAO or not but the way he worded his post makes me believe he does. ################################################################ http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=129630 We also plan for this module to include multiplayer front seat / back seat capability. We believe that this feature will add a new dimension of gameplay for this aircraft and several others like the UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Hawk, and C-101. Edited May 9, 2016 by ZQuickSilverZ I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sryan Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 The exact words I heard during one the VEAO streams is that they hope do a multicrew plane one day. And then try to reverse engineer that into the Hawk. Check my F-15C guide
kontiuka Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 @ZQuickSilverZ, those are very old posts. I don't think they reflect the current situation. For example, Tango no longer works for Aviodev and hasn't for quite a while. I know Aviodev is definitely working on multiplayer multicrew though. VEAO, not at this time, is my impression.
Kayos Posted May 9, 2016 Author Posted May 9, 2016 It would be very nice for the Gazelle & Huey. I can't wait to have it for the F-14! Hopefully more will be done in the future. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
cichlidfan Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 Not sure if Tango works for VEAO or not but the way he worded his post makes me believe he does. Tango may have when he posted that but he is no longer involved in any DCS development. So I would not put much stock in a three year old post. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ApoNOOB Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 Pretty sure there were clear statements from VEAO about the multicrew situation on the HAWK and why it wouldn't get one. (AFTER those posts QuickSilver linked) Last information was along the lines of "No multicrew planned atm, but never say never"
Phantom453 Posted May 10, 2016 Posted May 10, 2016 The exact words I heard during one the VEAO streams is that they hope do a multicrew plane one day. And then try to reverse engineer that into the Hawk. ^ That's the way I recall it too.
ZQuickSilverZ Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 If they don't implement multi-crew in the Hawk that would be pretty upsetting considering it is a TRAINER aircraft........ I assume a lot of people bought it for that purpose. Not being able to train others in it would be a slap in the face. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Gierasimov Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Charlie in development been waiting for multicrew for the huey since it was first released in beta, can't imagine flyin the F-14 an or F-18 without it in the future think ED is busy with other stuff an merge of 1.5/2.0. Just to make sure, you did not mean to imply another F-18 in development, did you? To the best of my knowledge, in development is F-18C which is a single seat jet. Am I wrong here guys? Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
MikeMikeJuliet Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Just to make sure, you did not mean to imply another F-18 in development, did you? To the best of my knowledge, in development is F-18C which is a single seat jet. Am I wrong here guys? Might just be a brainfart.... yes, the model for the Hornet is C and no sign of a two-seater in the forseeable future... Though the F-14 and the F-4 are coming and will have multicrew. DCS Finland | SF squadron
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