Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 7

[Tello]

REDFOR need a Batman sign to light up the sky! Just instead of Batman it should say ARCUS

^^

[Manzanita]

Wow I'm pretty disappointed right now. I thought the player balance system that was applied early into the round was still in effect. Clearly it wasn't. What's even the point of putting in all effort when Blue just stacks at dead timezones when everyone is asleep and decides it's fun to cap everything with barely any opposition. This was the same reason I quit during the end of Round 6, it takes no effort to fly against an nonexistent enemy. Unless the Buddyspike team reapplies the balance system they had or figure out a new one soon, I won't be flying anymore.

[Sweep]

Lol, redfor outnumbers blue for a few days, takes everything except Tbilisi, then Blue finally gets its crap together and pushes back...

 

How about you guys get in here and fight instead of whining?

 

Edit: Also, is anyone else having memories of Round 3? :)

Edited June 10, 2016 by Sweep

[Manzanita]

Lol, redfor outnumbers blue for a few days, takes everything except Tbilisi, then Blue finally gets its crap together and pushes back...

 

How about you guys get in here and fight instead of whining?

 

>Outnumbers blue

Yeah, at most, 5 or 8 players which was fine. Not 35v5 as it was this morning. Again, there's no point in putting in any effort when this will just keep happening. It kills any sense of progression. Nope, have fun spawncamping the few that will put up with it. :thumbup:

[kreisch]

Guys,when Do you all accept it is basically the same situation for each team?

[Sweep]

have fun spawncamping the few that will put up with it.

 

Will do...? I guess? :yawn:

[microvax]

I dunno if you were on on saturday, we defended tblisi 7 vs 40. no joke.

Is that spawn killing ?? ;D

 

Last days weren't much better.

 

And the reason that blue didnt loose so far is simply that they kept defending against the odds. ;)

 

Thank you for not doing that for the red team, makes our lives easier ! :D

[Manzanita]

Guys,when Do you all accept it is basically the same situation for each team?

 

It is the same situation for both teams, which is why a system was put in place to handle that. IIRC a team couldn't capture while having 10 more then the other team, which worked pretty well early on. Look what happens when it's removed lol.

[D4n]

Buddyspike Team please add few MiG-29S slots to Mozdok, Senaki, Kutaisi, Gudauta and Sochi. These are all very large airbases with more than 21 hangars (Gudauta being smallest one, only Mozdok no hangars but VERY large parking area).

[mia389]

Buddyspike Team please add few MiG-29S slots to Mozdok, Senaki, Kutaisi, Gudauta and Sochi. These are all very large airbases with more than 21 hangars (Gudauta being smallest one, only Mozdok no hangars but VERY large parking area).

 

Then Blue will need F15s at Mozdok,Maycop,Anapa,Beslan ect :book: The way they have it set now is same for Blue when we push. We only get mirages for fighters and no helis.

[T_A]

Dont get the outnumbering complaints , if your team (red OR blue) is outnumbered , then get your team to join the server , 30v5 isnt fun but there are still 15 slots empty here.

 

blue has almost lost this week so its natural that blue guys would want to make an effort in pushing back , red missed a chance to end the round

[roccoo]

Then Blue will need F15s at Mozdok,Maycop,Anapa,Beslan ect :book: The way they have it set now is same for Blue when we push. We only get mirages for fighters and no helis.

 

Exaclty. I don't understand why some people don't get it... Only difference is Batumi doesn't have any slots for reds and Nalchik has helos for blues, but I don't want to start a flame on this as it has been discussed a lot already :thumbup:

The only thing I would do is find a way to put mig21 slots as well, but it's difficult because you can't have 4 slots in red and only 2 in blue... Maybe making it so that you can spawn both but maximum 2 per airfield (I know scripting must be kept at minimum though).

[Darkwolf]

Getting 3 AFB packed within 3km has surely nothing to do with tbilisi being a fortress :P

[Monkey21]

Getting 3 AFB packed within 3km has surely nothing to do with tbilisi being a fortress :P

 

Can't change geography unfortunately. Personally I'd be happy to switch start areas, although there's a certain surrealism to Russians invading Russia.

[Frostie]

I don't have a problem with balance it swings both ways but when there is no opposition that is just too easy.

 

 

Getting 3 AFB packed within 3km has surely nothing to do with tbilisi being a fortress :P

There is no place like it on Earth.

Most have learned how to defend a base now, nevermind a triple base.

Six AI spam, hoardes of SAMS, SHORAD, endless stingers, 5 min base repair, unlimited fuel, always a safe airbase for fighters to land and be immediately back in the fight. 30v7 doesn't matter, it would take some hardcore co-ordination to break that and in this open environment that ain't going to happen.

[mia389]

Exaclty. I don't understand why some people don't get it... Only difference is Batumi doesn't have any slots for reds and Nalchik has helos for blues, but I don't want to start a flame on this as it has been discussed a lot already :thumbup:

The only thing I would do is find a way to put mig21 slots as well, but it's difficult because you can't have 4 slots in red and only 2 in blue... Maybe making it so that you can spawn both but maximum 2 per airfield (I know scripting must be kept at minimum though).

 

Nalchik does not have helos anymore. They took them out.

[Stuge]

I have a thought... what if the winning team of the round, at least in case neither team could take all bases, was decided by dominance time, perhaps weighted by some factor like bases held? Something similar to Battlefield games.

 

My point is that because of the rubber-band-like movement of the front any work done for taking and holding bases can get nullified by just a short time of being outnumbered. Right now even if a team dominates the game for an entire week it may count for nothing, all it takes is one unlucky day to lose it all. Perhaps one base could even be made uncapturable, since a victory by capturing all bases require a combination of one team pulling off great team work while timing it right so the other team is sleeping at the time of the push :)

[roccoo]

Can't change geography unfortunately. Personally I'd be happy to switch start areas, although there's a certain surrealism to Russians invading Russia.

 

Yeah that would look waaaay too weird! Too much for me :lol:

[VentZer0]

Dont get the outnumbering complaints , if your team (red OR blue) is outnumbered , then get your team to join the server , 30v5 isnt fun but there are still 15 slots empty here.

 

blue has almost lost this week so its natural that blue guys would want to make an effort in pushing back , red missed a chance to end the round

 

HOW!?

Do you understand timezones? Since blue is almost ENTIRELY made up of 'MURICANS and red only has a handful of them ... sure. Why not get up when red is playing? Oh wait, you already do that too.

Balancing needs to happen, not everyone can pull a no-lifer and play 24/7. This 30:5 crap no fun for either side.

 

Then again with the absence of the heli refuel no one has to worry about spawning. Which completely kills the strategic potential. Right now it is like trench war ... one step forwards, one step back. There is no movement in the frontlines, bases take forever to be taken and as we can see it just turns into a stalemate.

[StandingCow]

I think the only answer to the one side outnumbering the other is a dynamic AI spawn system... the more you outnumber the other team the more AI jets will scramble. And on top of that make them capable fighters, 4th gen.

 

Other than that... each side has their peak time when they outnumber the other team.

[VentZer0]

I think the only answer to the one side outnumbering the other is a dynamic AI spawn system... the more you outnumber the other team the more AI jets will scramble. And on top of that make them capable fighters, 4th gen.

 

Other than that... each side has their peak time when they outnumber the other team.

 

That could be a good thing.

 

Funny how blue is still outnumbering red for most of the campaign, sans the 3 days were red was outnumbering blue for sometime. Even right now blue outnumbers red, although it's redfor-time.

[Jester Darrak]

I'd like that. Especially with 80's loadout you need to work different tactics at AI.

 

+1

I think the only answer to the one side outnumbering the other is a dynamic AI spawn system... the more you outnumber the other team the more AI jets will scramble. And on top of that make them capable fighters, 4th gen.

 

Other than that... each side has their peak time when they outnumber the other team.

[IASGATG]

Lag is the biggest killer with more AI units.

[ViFF]

I think the only answer to the one side outnumbering the other is a dynamic AI spawn system... the more you outnumber the other team the more AI jets will scramble. And on top of that make them capable fighters, 4th gen.

 

This was tried in the testing of previous rounds. The lag was just too much.

[Sweep]

Can we get our Fighter/Attacker/Helo channels set up like the Red ones with some flight/group channels?