The F-5 needs an upgrade IMO

[Silver_Dragon]

a new F-5 version can require market study, new research, new license, assign resources, new 3D models external a internal, new weapons system and avionic codification and new testing if you like maintain the quality process on a module, its not a easy plug and play system by BSK. Remember a new module version can delay others modules (AH-1 / Mi-24)

Edited July 28, 2016 by Silver_Dragon

[NineLine]

As I said on the first page, even if you score two kills with the two missiles we have, and perhaps another with the guns, it still means a lot of time RTBing, I'd rather have the chance to score 5 kills than 3.... as I said, its combat persistence is rather low, IMO it would make it a far more useful aircraft if that was not the case.

 

 

That's probably not a good enough reason for BST to make a change to the aircraft. Part of using these aircraft are using them based on their positive and negative aspects, you just need to think of those when choosing the F-5 for a mission. If you need to stay up for longer periods of time and lob missile after missile this might not be the airframe you are looking for

[Sarge55]

That's probably not a good enough reason for BST to make a change to the aircraft. Part of using these aircraft are using them based on their positive and negative aspects, you just need to think of those when choosing the F-5 for a mission. If you need to stay up for longer periods of time and lob missile after missile this might not be the airframe you are looking for

 

Either that or he should join a server with unlimited Ammo and fuel... :music_whistling:

[NineLine]

Either that or he should join a server with unlimited Ammo and fuel... :music_whistling:

 

There is that to :)

[cichlidfan]

That's probably not a good enough reason for BST to make a change to the aircraft. Part of using these aircraft are using them based on their positive and negative aspects, you just need to think of those when choosing the F-5 for a mission. If you need to stay up for longer periods of time and lob missile after missile this might not be the airframe you are looking for

 

^^^ This.

[Zilch]

I'm reading a lot of "upgrade the F-5E-3 to the super modified export/modernized version this air force has."

 

My opinion, if we're going to do an upgraded F-5 style airframe, it needs to look like this:

 

 

Of course, it's not going to happen, but here's to wishing. Who wouldn't want this amazing cockpit?

 

 

Anyway...as far as our F-5E goes, I think it's great how it is. Mavericks would be cool, since the E-3 carries them as I understand it, and fixing the AIM-9's and gunsights to work as the real ones do will suffice.

 

Otherwise, the burden is on us to make this plane work against opponents as-is using its strengths. It's easier to fly an uprated airplane than to hone your skills, but if that's what you're after you can fly the F-15 or Mirage.

 

This F-5 is the plane you fly when you want to really knuckle down and get better at BFM and enjoy a pure dogfight. It's one of the last real stick-and-rudder jet fighters around, and I'm happy to fly it as one.

[Vitormouraa]

If they wanted to upgrade the F-5E... I'd rather the Brazilian one. It will never happen though. :)

[SandMartin]

I want just one thing to upgrade F-5E. Its name AIM-9L. What block can carry this missle ? Why E-3 model cant launch it ?

 

Edited July 28, 2016 by SandMartin

[Capn kamikaze]

Zilch, asking for a couple more sidewinders and a refueling probe is hardly asking for it to be turned into an F-20.

 

The truth is that the AIM-9 is not an AIM-120, asking for a version of the F-5 that could carry two more sidewinders is not asking for some massively advanced version, trying to twist the topic to make it look like that is what is being asked is disingenuous at worst, and a straw man at best.

 

BFM is what the F-5 is all about, asking for a couple more IR missiles doesn't change that fact, it just means you can do MORE BFM, and more is better.

[Ktulu2]

As it has been said, if you want even more BFM, why don't you go in a server with immortal, unlimited fuel and weapons? That way you'll BFM as much as you want while BST can make the plane they decided to make.

[Capn kamikaze]

Because that would be unrealistic.

 

Adding a version that can carry more than just two missiles would not be.

[Ktulu2]

Yes, it would!!! It wouldn't be a F-5E-3!!!

[Capn kamikaze]

Exactly....

 

It would be another version.

 

I'll say it again with emphasis....

 

ADDING a VERSION that can carry more than just two missiles would not be.

[cichlidfan]

Exactly....

 

It would be another version.

 

I'll say it again with emphasis....

 

ADDING a VERSION that can carry more than just two missiles would not be.

 

The point is that the option was there for Belsimtek from the beginning. The fact that they chose to do otherwise indicates that they, for whatever reason, made a conscious decision not to make that version.

 

The fact that some people would not agree with that decision was, I am sure, already known to Belsimtek.

[SkateZilla]

:music_whistling::music_whistling:

[Iberian]

Exactly....

 

It would be another version.

 

I'll say it again with emphasis....

 

ADDING a VERSION that can carry more than just two missiles would not be.

 

The more time I can spend at base sending the ground crew looking for fuel and weapons, the more time I get to find the ground crew's lunch box and eat their jelly doughnuts and chase Penny Benjamin, the admiral's daughter.

 

Not to mention being away from the fire and chaos of the DCS conflict the easier it will be to make my DCS tour of duty bearable.

 

I think you'll enjoy the F-14 more, plenty of missiles there.

 

The point of flying different airframes in DCS is to accept and adapt to their limitations, earlier you mentioned less missiles requires more landings and rearming time, some of us don't find that to be any problem at all. I find using the navigation instruments for approaches and landing just another fun part of operating the aircraft.

[Darkbrotherhood7]

:music_whistling::music_whistling:

 

Dear lord:doh:

[Zilch]

Zilch, asking for a couple more sidewinders and a refueling probe is hardly asking for it to be turned into an F-20.

 

The truth is that the AIM-9 is not an AIM-120, asking for a version of the F-5 that could carry two more sidewinders is not asking for some massively advanced version, trying to twist the topic to make it look like that is what is being asked is disingenuous at worst, and a straw man at best.

 

BFM is what the F-5 is all about, asking for a couple more IR missiles doesn't change that fact, it just means you can do MORE BFM, and more is better.

 

It's nothing like that. I honestly want the F-20 in DCS more than probably any other aircraft. I'm not a troll-like, snide or disingenuous kind of guy. This is something I'd really like to see.

 

I just think the F-5, as is, would be just fine if the Sidewinders tracked, the AA-1 gunsight worked, and we possibly got Mavericks (which I think are part of the real life F-5E-3 package.)

 

Don't read into it too much. :)

[Ktulu2]

^This minus the mavericks (not an A2G guy)

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

:music_whistling::music_whistling:

 

Absolutely haram.

[FSKRipper]

It's nothing like that. I honestly want the F-20 in DCS more than probably any other aircraft. I'm not a troll-like, snide or disingenuous kind of guy. This is something I'd really like to see.

 

I just think the F-5, as is, would be just fine if the Sidewinders tracked, the AA-1 gunsight worked, and we possibly got Mavericks (which I think are part of the real life F-5E-3 package.)

 

Don't read into it too much. :)

 

If you can wait until the F-5 comes out of Beta the Sidewinders will track and the gunsight will work so you will be happy.

You will probably see no Mavericks since this is a special aircraft version with a different Radar/Monitor Setup. As long as BST doesn't decide to model a special export version this will be the final state.

[Zilch]

Even without Mavericks, with all systems working, this plane will be totally badass.

 

I've almost killed so many MiG-21's in PVP with it as-is, it's not even funny. Of course, as they say, there's no points for second place..."Almost" killing the MiG is like "almost" dodging the missile. I could blame the systems, but with some more practice and skills, even with a fixed sight and no missiles someone better than I am could really skewer some Fish(beds).

[Hook47]

I think if the title of this thread has been "I would love to see additional F-5 Variants!" Then the 12 page debate could have been avoided. The point is BST shouldn't change the module in an unrealistic way and I love the challenge of the E-3 version we have. That said, I'd love to see expansion to other variants down the road. I'd even be open to a 3rd just focusing on new variants for a popular aircraft for awhile rather than full steam ahead on a new one. Just my 2 cents

 

Mavericks would be a beautiful thing is proper documentation to help BST ever surfaced!

[SkateZilla]

U.S. Airforce F-5Es weren't wired for AGM-65, that was the A-10A's Mission..

 

Exports are an entirely different story.

 

They May have test loaded them for international sales demo's, but USAF had no interest in Putting them on the F-5E Block 3's

Edited July 28, 2016 by SkateZilla

[Drag0nWIng]

such many replies in two days. wow.