Chuck's F-5E3 Tiger II Guide

[Coder]

The question should be: are you supposed to turn that aileron limiter off during flight? Was it used by pilots at all? Because a switch is there doesn't mean it should necessarily be used... it could be an emergency switch for all we know.

 

The way I understand it is that the pilots have to use more force to move the stick all the way to the left / right. On force feedback sticks you can do this as mentioned. I don't think the button does exist in the real aircraft - but in order to allow simmers without a force feedback stick to access the full maneuver-range they implementet it. As I understand it, the button is just a work around in order to move the stick in it's full range.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Coder

[Devrim]

Great work as always.

 

I don't have this module but I'll read it with a high pleasure. :)

[Sporg]

The question should be: are you supposed to turn that aileron limiter off during flight? Was it used by pilots at all? Because a switch is there doesn't mean it should necessarily be used... it could be an emergency switch for all we know.

 

The way I understand it is that the pilots have to use more force to move the stick all the way to the left / right. On force feedback sticks you can do this as mentioned. I don't think the button does exist in the real aircraft - but in order to allow simmers without a force feedback stick to access the full maneuver-range they implementet it. As I understand it, the button is just a work around in order to move the stick in it's full range.

As Coder replied, it seems to be a workaround in the module for non-FFB sticks.

In the real aircraft you just need to excert extra force on the stick to exceed the limiter.

 

I checked the real F-5E flight manual and the function is there for use in stall recovery and in emergencies.

The limiter is there to protect the aircraft against g-overload in "normal" maneuvering conditions.

 

I guess if you need to pull off an extra violent maneuver, and know you won't overload too much, you would override the limiter.

And especially for stall recovery of course. :)

 

Since the real aircraft limiter is so easy to override, I think for non-FFB stick users it should be mapped for easy access too.

 

I hope Belsimtek will put their implementation of it clearer in their manual as well.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Sporg

[Major Anton]

Thanks for your efforts! 'Highly appreciated........

[ac5]

Hi Chuck,

 

DCS F-5E3 Tiger II, Excellent work as always!

 

Thank you very much indeed!

[Akatsuki]

Thank you Chuck. :thumbup:

[slowhand]

AS always Great job!!!:thumbup::joystick::book:

[mac22]

Chuck absolutely amazing guide........!

If your using a Warthog stick would you be able to upload your profile?

[Kozmyk]

Thanks once again Chuck.

You're a star :thumbup:

[Steel Jaw]

Excellent.

[Charly_Owl]

Fixed a number of typos, corrected a few mistakes, updated the controls, added a section on the Aileron Deflection Limiter, added a part on the TACAN frequencies and the FAST ERECT button.

 

I apologize for the few mistakes that slip by... Feel free to let me know if you find others.

[Justificus]

...I apologize for the few mistakes that slip by... Feel free to let me know if you find others.

 

No need to apologize, mate, glad to see you're human after all. ;)

[Cowboy10uk]

Damn, Charly, I've not even finished reading version 1 and youve already updated it, that is very impressive.

 

Thankyou, love your guides.

 

Cowboy10uk

[Knock-Knock]

Thank you, again, Mr. Owl :thumbup:

[trippylummox]

Thanks so much! Wonderful guide Charly!

[Skulleader]

Hey Chuck,

Once again you are the best !!!!

A great great thanks for this news manual.

Awesome job +1

[giffage]

Brilliant job. Fascinating stuff made very readable, thanks!

[Sporg]

Fixed a number of typos, corrected a few mistakes, updated the controls, added a section on the Aileron Deflection Limiter, added a part on the TACAN frequencies and the FAST ERECT button.

Thanks, very nice. :)

 

And a good explanation of the limiter, now people have a chance to know what it is.

Thanks for putting that in also. :)

[Home Fries]

Great job as usual, Chuck!

 

EDIT: Gaaaa!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Charly_Owl again.

[Thisdale]

Quick Question:

 

There is reference to stop a missile from locking by uncaging it in the quick guide.

I though Uncaging Aim9s was done to have them look for heat signature (and not only the radar) for quicker heat acquisition on release.

 

What's up?

[upupandaway]

Many thanks!

[dresoccer4]

looking forward to digging into this, but had a quick question: page 45 and 46 both are titled "AIR to AIR AIM-9 MISSILE - MSL MODE" and have instructions 1-12. is this supposed to be like this or is it a "bug"?

[Charly_Owl]

looking forward to digging into this, but had a quick question: page 45 and 46 both are titled "AIR to AIR AIM-9 MISSILE - MSL MODE" and have instructions 1-12. is this supposed to be like this or is it a "bug"?

 

I think it's supposed to be like this... not enough room to fit every picture on the same page.

[dresoccer4]

I think it's supposed to be like this... not enough room to fit every picture on the same page.

 

gotcha. one more question! the guide states that when there is a missile lock, "Missile will have

a solid IR lock when the missile growls"

 

i've tended to notice it's the opposite, it gets sort of quieter.

[BeachAV8R]

Nice job! I'll be using this a lot the next few days..