M460 Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 Can we please focus on REDFOR getting Datalink? #I've been dreaming about an unlicensed version of the MIG-31... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
M0ltar Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 Thats not a solution unless you're being sarcastic... If you're not it just seems like you're changing the topic when evidence is brought up that contradicts what you say. Id be for datalink if the F15 had 120s. Hell, Id be for giving all jets their full available loadouts including datalink. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
D4n Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 At least with 6 RvE in red we could hold off all team blue fighters DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 Thats not a solution unless you're being sarcastic... If you're not it just seems like you're changing the topic when evidence is brought up that contradicts what you say. Id be for datalink if the F15 had 120s. Hell, Id be for giving all jets their full available loadouts including datalink. Yeah, nice, AIM-120C and team red would already have lost... (No way to dodge/bleed AIM-120C in flat terrain... chaff useless too) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
M0ltar Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 Yeah, nice, AIM-120C and team red would already have lost... (No way to dodge/bleed AIM-120C in flat terrain... chaff useless too) Yes there is a way to defeat them. A couple actually. To say there is no way is to not even try. Yes chaff is useless, but giving the Su27 datalink with ET is pretty good... and before you say, but the flat land... ill die! Learn to fly a plane to its strengths instead of complaining about balance. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
M460 Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 Thats not a solution unless you're being sarcastic... If you're not it just seems like you're changing the topic when evidence is brought up that contradicts what you say. Id be for datalink if the F15 had 120s. Hell, Id be for giving all jets their full available loadouts including datalink. Datalink is a native capability on the su-27 and su-33(just like the a-10 but not restricted right?). Leavu isn't a DCS f15 capability, i'm not being sarcastic. We are tired being 3 crazy neutered goats so you guy can have fun, cause its back to AIM120s. #I've been dreaming about an unlicensed version of the MIG-31... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
duffeys1 Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 I dont know who you're trying to fool there...but. Your red team taking over the map was... RVE crew testing for RED until PAK 6 wall hit a nerve... Ha if I was trying to fool people I would change my forum tag and your pak 6 comment is completely off base. You could see in the player count that people were tired of the same fight every day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Oceandar Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 I'd rather choose ER or ET than datalink as an incentives for "bad guy red" against the odd. CMIIW datalink in MP requires AWACS present and I can't stand spam messages from AWACS. AFAIK, 104th server makes ER missile available for red team when it applied East vs West scenario to attract more player for the red. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
MaxDamage Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Allow us to use su25A instead of su25T. there s no harm in doing so. You re robbing people of their fun otherwise. Also if possible give us better reasons to use dumb bombs, FFAR rocket pods and gun pods. We need high volume targets like truck/infantry groups and/or well hidden infantry for area strikes. Edited December 11, 2016 by MaxDamage
Coxy_99 Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Allow us to use su25A instead of su25T. there s no harm in doing so. You re robbing people of their fun otherwise. Also if possible give us better reasons to use dumb bombs, FFAR rocket pods and gun pods. We need high volume targets like truck/infantry groups and/or well hidden infantry for area strikes. Adding to many units would crash the server.
gregzagk Posted December 11, 2016 Author Posted December 11, 2016 There gone be changes and fixes in the mission soon, we just have some real life obligations that make us work slower. We hope you enjoy the server as it is for now until we are ready to launch the 10th round. Greg "ARGO" DCS UH-1H DLC SP Campaign 373vFS DCS World squadron (Greece) - www.buddyspike.net "ARGO 2.0 Project Phoenix" UH-1H DLC Campaign - WIP
microvax Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 There gone be changes and fixes in the mission soon, we just have some real life obligations that make us work slower. We hope you enjoy the server as it is for now until we are ready to launch the 10th round. Greg Noice ! And I actually agree with Moltar, as nice as asymetry is, it narrows down peoples side choices even further. In Fighters it doesnt matter as much imho, since the flanker and eagle are comparable in functionality, while Gazelle and KA50 and A10c and su25t are not in the slightest. With the asymetry you are not only deciding by where your friends fly, which side you prefer by Terrain or whatnot, but also what frames you can and want to fly. Personally I think the rounds with the symetric strike setup were the ones which were the most fun, because the frontline was waay more dynamic. The last few rounds it felt a lot like ww1 trench style warfare. :D I do not know if equalling out strikes will bring back more balanced numbers/level the playing field but its imho worth a try. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ?
StandingCow Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 If there is one thing consistent in blueflag... it's the whining about team balance. 1 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
Coxy_99 Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 If there is one thing consistent in blueflag... it's the whining about team balance. +1
BodyOrgan Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 If there is one thing consistent in blueflag... it's the whining about team balance. Actually, there are two things consistent. Whining about the whining. 1
mia389 Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 I'm glad you called that out, because I was tempted to as well. I'm not blaming RvE for their choices, as I would rather fly with those you know, and those you can cooperate with, but the team stacking which occurs when they join a side is the reason I don't play anymore. Sucked the fun out of it for me. Good luck round 10. You can not blame RvE for the team stacking. It is stacked without them. Alot of RvE joined RvE flying with them on blue side. Not like they were ever flying red before. When RvE went red I thought it made the numbers much more even. Go join your countrymen. They need you! Just look at all the new names in server. They all going blue.
Pronin Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 So is data link for the SU-27 broken in MP, or do server disable it for balance reasons? In SP, you get your wingman's location, as well as his radar contacts on your HDD. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
*Rage* Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Doest work in MP as a peer to peer data link. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
BSS_Sniper Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Ill stand by what Ive said in the past. Putting the A-10C and the KA50 on both teams will do at least a bit to help the numbers. The more we do things like that, the more this becomes 104th... I9 9900k @ 5ghz water cooled, 32gb ram, GTX 2080ti, 1tb M.2, 2tb hdd, 1000 watt psu TrackIR 5, TM Warthog Stick and Throttle, CH Pedals
BSS_Sniper Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 I'm glad you called that out, because I was tempted to as well. I'm not blaming RvE for their choices, as I would rather fly with those you know, and those you can cooperate with, but the team stacking which occurs when they join a side is the reason I don't play anymore. Sucked the fun out of it for me. Good luck round 10. I haven't been on since the last round and have been losing interest as well. From having the same aircraft on both sides to "balance" to taking too long between rounds I've just drifted away. It's unfortunate. I9 9900k @ 5ghz water cooled, 32gb ram, GTX 2080ti, 1tb M.2, 2tb hdd, 1000 watt psu TrackIR 5, TM Warthog Stick and Throttle, CH Pedals
BodyOrgan Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Team stacking? Are you saying its just because there are so many of us? If you are, I disagree. It seems like people follow us to the team that we choose. I have no idea why. Id rather fly against the majority. Right now there are only 4 RvE guys on and 35 blue players.Yes, it is because of your numbers. Nothing you can really do about it unless you want to split your team, but then to Smokey's point, blue team will still have much higher numbers probably. Thats not a solution unless you're being sarcastic... If you're not it just seems like you're changing the topic when evidence is brought up that contradicts what you say. Id be for datalink if the F15 had 120s. Hell, Id be for giving all jets their full available loadouts including datalink.I look at taking away the Su-27 datalink as the same thing as taking away the A-10C TGP. Round 6 was fought with giving the F-15C its full capabilities, but the same wasn't done for the Su-27. We saw how that turned out. You can not blame RvE for the team stacking. It is stacked without them. Alot of RvE joined RvE flying with them on blue side. Not like they were ever flying red before. When RvE went red I thought it made the numbers much more even. Go join your countrymen. They need you! Just look at all the new names in server. They all going blue. I don't. You're right in that blue team is going to have the superior numbers no matter what. Due to your teams size when RvE plays red team it keeps the numbers pretty even, so it's a lot more fun to play on either team then. With the numbers game as it is I don't intend to play round 10, but next time I see RvE on red team, and if by some miracle that keeps the numbers close to even I might drop into blue team. It's probably the only time I'll get to play on that team without it being a steam roll session. Caveat being the strikers/choppers aren't mixed again. If that happens I'll just stick with Redfor, because they will have less numbers, but I'll get to fly everything except the F-15C. I haven't been on since the last round and have been losing interest as well. From having the same aircraft on both sides to "balance" to taking too long between rounds I've just drifted away. It's unfortunate. The NATO vs WARSAW was a nice concept, but without any DCS level Russian equipment which can actually compete it's pretty rough playing for red team at the moment. I'm for mixing and matching the strikers and choppers again.
spaceraver Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I have already chosen to fly RED side when the first round was up, striker in 25T/KA-50 or flying slingloads with Huey or Mi-8 and I had a blast doing so, even getting killed multiple times by the same guy because he was hunting Helicopters in his F-15. I met some interesting people there. ESAC crew, 373vfs, Deadbeef. an old US Marine whose name escapes me. Then life happened, I change jobs and suddenly I don't have time to fly Blue Flag. I might be home 4 days every other month. Hell, I haven't been home for more than 6 days since end of September. Choose an era of combat and stick with it.. And why is there so many on one side all of a sudden? What happened to all the squadrons? VODKA, ESAC etc? I know round 1-4 went fast with mostly red in the midday GMT and mostly blue 0600 GMT due to the fact that US players would join blue during their evening time and we would be playing during our evening time. Edited December 12, 2016 by spaceraver added info. Anything with a Rotary Wing is fun and challenging. Use SRS radio. Saitek X55 Modding System Specs Mixed Metals: i7 4790K@4.6, 32GB Kingston HyperX ram@2400Mhz, Gigabyte GA-Z97MX Gaming 5, ASUS Vega 64, 3xSamsung SSD drives, FSP Aurum 1000W PSU, Custom watercooling with EK blocks, Vive, Virpil MT 50, X55 throttle.
M0ltar Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 The more we do things like that, the more this becomes 104th... This is how all of the rounds were up through 6 and those were some the best, most fun, and balanced. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
D4n Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 wait, why are there a few RvE on team blue? I thought RvE is team red currently? Have they all switched few days ago? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
DieHard Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) If there is one thing consistent in blueflag... it's the whining about team balance. Got that right! {;^) Me being sarcastic got me banned on forums once-upon-a-time. Oh, well, I don't care... Truth is truth! +1 I always fly Red, usually the copters. Edited December 12, 2016 by DieHard [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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