Pocket Sized Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 What sort of mud moving capabilities will the Farmer have? Does the radar have any sort of A-G ranging mode, or is it gonna be a fixed sight like the F-5? (I expect the latter) DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 When it comes to variants according to wikipedia, P carries 2x23mm or 2x30mm, and S carried 3x30mm with 2 hardpoints? Both have radar, for gun ranging only or capable of detecting targets as well? Is this correct or were there more relevant differences? Yea the S only has a radar ranging unit for the gunsight ( kinda like the F86F sabre) The Mig19P does actually have a search radar. The Rp1 Izumrud. however it is really short ranged. Only about 10km distance, and its only usefull at or above 3000m , without getting interference from the ground. Some late model P's also had R3 IR missile capability, which is why im guessing the Mig19P is probably the ideal Farmer to go for, and why they chose it. What sort of mud moving capabilities will the Farmer have? Does the radar have any sort of A-G ranging mode, or is it gonna be a fixed sight like the F-5? (I expect the latter) It has no A/G mapping or even ranging AFAIK. Itl require manual bombing/ sight depression similar like the F5E. that aside while the Mig19 can lug some bombs or rocket pods. its not a bomb truck like the F5 Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 P or S versions look quite nice to me. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What was I thinking, I want the S version ofcourse! Don't really fancy the ones with the radar nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Ah yes, the "S" is a nice looking bird but i'll be happy with the "P". Don't forget that they MIGHT do both versions though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilodon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What was I thinking, I want the S version ofcourse! Don't really fancy the ones with the radar nose. The big guns :clap: :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Guys do you realize, that MiG-19S will be pure gunfighter without IR missiles right? Razbam doing MiG-19 not Shenyang J-6 ( from radarless aircrafts only chinese copies had IR AAM's ). So aircraft with missiles is MiG-19P, gunfigher is MiG-19S. Personaly I wanna both.:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I concur with the sentiment of wanting both :D. If all that differ between two are armament, nose section, and radar in cockpit, I think and hope that both can be included. One thing to consider is, back when the MiG-19 was a thing, IR missiles totally sucked for dogfights against people who are actively trying not to get killed. So I think this will be more of a gunfighter anyway, therefore I don't think a gunless version such as PM alone would be the greatest option. If a single variant will be done, I agree that the P would be the best option, if both P and S can be done, that'd would be pretty great! Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilodon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What is it on the right wing " 4-41 " missile ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 AFAIK the Albanian birds were chinese F-6, not Soviet MiG-19, that can be some kind of rocket. BTW Hope they decide to do BOTH versions, as radarless variants will be more suited for Vietnam and Pakistan. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What is it on the right wing " 4-41 " missile ? This is chinese variant of Soviet ORO-57 launcher with 8 S-5 FFAR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilodon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This is chinese variant of Soviet ORO-57 launcher with 8 S-5 FFAR's. thx foxbat :thumbup: I want the Chinese variant :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Original Soviet MiG-19/MiG-19S have the same capability, up to 4 launchers. Only difference is that early aircrafts had weapon pylon located deep under wing right before landing flap, late MiG-19S ( sometimes called MiG-19SF ) had weapon pylon moved forward like on the photo. Chinese J-6 was copy of those late MiG-19SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilodon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Original Soviet MiG-19/MiG-19S have the same capability, up to 4 launchers. Only difference is that early aircrafts had weapon pylon located deep under wing right before landing flap, late MiG-19S ( sometimes called MiG-19SF ) had weapon pylon moved forward like on the photo. Chinese J-6 was copy of those late MiG-19SF. Thank you very much for all these info foxbat :thumbup:...:smartass: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I wanna add one thing. Maximum rate of climb: -maximum trust -115 m/s -full afterburner -180 m/s ..and 3x30 mm guns. I cannot wait:joystick::D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 sorry if this is a dumb question but what would be the main opponents of the mig 19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 F-100, F-105, F-4, Mirage IIIC. So in DCS it'll have to be Mig vs. Mig or Mig vs. MIIIC (depending on which module is released first). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilodon Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I wanna add one thing. Maximum rate of climb: -maximum trust -115 m/s -full afterburner -180 m/s ..and 3x30 mm guns. I cannot wait:joystick::D. LOL me too :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperEtendard Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Always loved the looks of the MiG-19, it's sleek with the high swept wings, but also kinda rugged with the wider fuselage in comparison to the single engine MiGs, also how it sits on the ground. I would describe it as beautiful and brutal, perfect for a combat plane :thumbup: I know they are J-6s but couldn't find many good quality images from actual MiG-19s in good conditions :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Technically the same thing. Loving that Pakistani Air Force livery tho Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 MiG-19S with those big lovely guns and sexy look please :) Should be fun doing dogfights against the F-5 in that thing :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitrz Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I wanna add one thing. Maximum rate of climb: -maximum trust -115 m/s -full afterburner -180 m/s ..and 3x30 mm guns. I cannot wait:joystick::D. Wow I wasn't even aware it had afterburner! :doh: [sIGPIC][url=http://www.blacksharkden.com][/url][/sIGPIC] http://www.blacksharkden.com "Come join us" - Bad Religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilodon Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 the j6 is beautiful :cry_2: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 IIRC there are several mods that add chinese conversions to planes like the MiG-21 or the Mi-8. Such conversion mod will fit the MiG-19/J-6 perfectly! I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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